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5. November 2005 @ 16:51 |
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it is CFI injection ,bad spider pack? and i dont burn premium
and iam pretty sure the plug wires are ok
thanks much for the info. gear i will have it checked out seems like i have had some lost of power as of late.
but i had the catalytic converter changed out a while back that seemed to help for a while. i was told the truck wouldnt run right if i replaced it with a straight pipe ,is that correct info.?
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5. November 2005 @ 18:13 |
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well being that its a 98 model and OBD II compliant, it will set a check engine light with out the cat in place.
if the plug wires are original, i'd definately replace them at the mileage you have (i assume over 100k miles or near)
checked fuel filter lately?
scanned for any fault codes?
is the end of the tail pipe black with soot? poke a finger in there to see? then taste it, should taste like chicken............. j/k ;)
air filter clogged?
bad pcv valve?
the CFI injection models were notoriuos for having a bad spider pack (which houses all your fuel injectors)
next thing would be a weak fuel pump..... if you have the know how, check it. should be well over 50 psi (i am not sure the exact spec off the top of my head, but its 50 psi or higher.......... (lack of power possibly....)
but there are many many factors that can reduce power.
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15. November 2005 @ 08:07 |
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i just wanted to 'bump' this thread to the top, see if any more stories are available, its slow here at work, and nothing really has come into the shop. i will add a story though, see if it tickles anyone's mind.
i have a 2000 dodge intrepid 2.7 V-6, came in with a knock after about 30 minutes at idle. well, there is a history of failed engines on this unit due to 'lack of maintenance' customer does not do their oil changes regularly and wind up with problems. to make a long story short, i checked oil level, then went to a direct reading of oil pressure, was 60psi at initial start up and slowly dropped to 10 psi after about 30 minutes, then the 'knocking' was apparent. i shut the engine off, read a few articles, knowing personally the history dodge/chrysler has had with these engines with oiling problems. i sold the customer an oil pump, which by no means is an easy job. 1400 dollars later, the engine is running, 100 psi in oil pressure and did not drop till after 45 minutes of running, which is normal. the oil heats up, thins out, then drops a bit. well, 10 minutes later, the 'knock' returns, then the engine shuts off. i restart, oil pressure at 90 psi, then drops.... then it once again, shuts off. this time, it was serious. the engine had locked up. well, now the customer is furious, and wants a full refund. luckily, it was documented and signed by the customer, internal engine damage unknown at time of problem and/or repair.
as it is, the car still sits here, 1 week later, and no payment. we will soon come to resolving this issue with the customer, but we also may end up owning this car. i dont know what locked the engine, but i assume the crankshaft has some warpage in it, thus locking up, but also creating the knocking when hot.
its got 91k miles on it, good condition, but a locked engine. just to add fuel to the fire, the dealership (which is where we got the oil pump from) they had 12 in stock. chrysler knows of this problem, and is a problem that they have tried to fix. this enging runs 6 grand alone, and no one will sell you a used engine with a warranty, cuz they know too.........
just wanted to vent some steam, i had a 1 hour long argument with the customer yesterday, now he has 'his' lawyer involved and the opinions of other mechanics (whom which have not seen, nor diagnosed his car) but in my defense, i told him....."no respectable technician will just jump in and say yes, its the mechanics fault"
i printed him up over 30 pages of problems with these engines to him, from a data base that we use to help us diagnose hard to find/fix problems from all over the world. he kinda mellowed out after that, but is still ticked off.......
we will see what happens today..
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15. November 2005 @ 16:06 |
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Man, I'm so glad I don't have to deal with customers!
We had a good one last week. We've been going through andless string of bonehead tennagers at the shop and one in particular has to be the dumbest of them all. In his first week he left the oil out of a Grand Cherokee then pulled it out for a test drive. Thank God the engine didn't seize but I imagine he shaved the life expectancy of that engine way down with that stunt.
As if that wasn't enough of a wake up call to pull his head out of ass, last week he was doing a LOF on a brand new '05 Explorer and managed to crack the valve cover because he left the big metal tipped oil gun nozzle shoved down into the valve cover when he started the truck after filling it. The real bitch of it was he didn't say anything about it and the customer had smoke billowing out of the thing as they were driving away. The little prick always tries to blame someone else when he screws something up.
I'm nearly at the end of my rope dealing with all these bonehead teenagers they hire. If they aren't royally screwing up customers vehicles (and they do it regularly) they're calling in sick all the time. One would think the management of my shop would get a clue that we won't have many customers if this crap keeps happening and I'm not going to be a very happy camper if I don't get some help that not only shows up every day but also knows what the hell they're doing.
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15. November 2005 @ 18:09 |
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i got a JOb for you neph, i need a good tech at my shop. i got a newbie here, and he cant even lift a friggen car....... pisses me off.
i can start you out at about ........... well, we can discuss that !!
hehe !!
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16. November 2005 @ 02:27 |
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As long as I don't have to deal with ignorant customers I'm there! :)
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16. November 2005 @ 03:25 |
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you wont, i usually deal with em, or the service writers do. i am the lead tech in my shop.
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16. November 2005 @ 05:37 |
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which means neph starts at the bottom sweeping floors!!
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16. November 2005 @ 08:44 |
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i think i got a better spot for him, title will be......... my helper
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16. November 2005 @ 09:50 |
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looks like Nephilim may be moving to south Texas LOL
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18. November 2005 @ 11:36 |
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how can i get an idiot in here, has a 97 expedition, 4wd, brakes are metal to metal, and he says he dont want to fix it... all we need to do it slap some pads and its good to go. the rotors are ground down so far, you can see the grooves in them, the calipers have gotten so hot, the brake fluid is leaking... needless to say, he wasted my time and he took his POS outta here.... go figure.
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18. November 2005 @ 22:19 |
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what an idiot, better keep an eye on your rear view mirror gear and make sure his NOT behind you when he needs to stop at a light lol
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17. January 2006 @ 09:52 |
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i wanted to revive this thread and say a story about today..
we had this oriental guy come in the shop today with a flat tire, he was driving a 2004 BMW suv.. anyway, we do plugs for free, if they want a patch, then of course we have a charge for that. anyway, the gut only wanted the free plug, so we hooked him up and and sent him on his way. 30 minutes later, he returns, now says we messed up his navigation system, his radio, and his lights on the dash light up like a christmas tree..
we never even got in the truck to begin with.. (after all, this was a FREE repair as a courtesy to customers).. anyway, he made a big stink, insinuated that we messed up his truck.... blah blah blah..
he then called the police and waited for them to arrive.., onne they did, they asked all the questions, we relayed what i just posted, then the cop told the oriental guy to take a hike... guy said he was gonna sue... yadda yadda yadda... the cop said then, dont waste his or our time no more... never return..
same thing last week.. had a guy come in with a 1989 jeep cherokee... he wanted an oil change, well, the engine was knocking upon driving into the shop... all my guys are instructed to note down any obvious problems and also prior 'looking' damages...
anyway, we refused his oil change due to the liability, he was pissed cuz we refused him service... but then decided to make a scene and call the police.. after waiting for 30 minutes he left cuz the cops never showed up... but then returned with a cop. well, it went like this.... the cop basically laughed at him for ignorance ans stupidity... not only did he embarass hiself, but there we 4 other customers in our waiting area who witnessed all of this...
some people now a days think that you can sue for just about anything or get something for nothing.. all my service writers also document any and all noted notes by the guys in my shop.. documentation is key here... it not only protects us, but the shop as well....
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17. January 2006 @ 10:13 |
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gear79 as a head tech WORDS OF WISDOM
Mechanics Tools Dictionary
HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate expensive car parts not far from the object we are trying to hit.
MECHANIC'S KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly well on boxes containing convertible tops or tonneau covers.
ELECTRIC HAND DRILL: Normally used for spinning steel Pop rivets in their holes until you die of old age, but it also works great for drilling rollbar mounting holes in the floor of a sports car just above the brake line that goes to the rear axle.
HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future becomes.
VISE-GRIPS: Used to round off bolt heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand.
OXYACETELENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for lighting those stale garage cigarettes you keep hidden in the back of the Whitworth socket drawer (what wife would think to look in there?) because you can never remember to buy lighter fluid for the Zippo lighter you got from the PX at Fort Campbell.
ZIPPO LIGHTER: See oxyacetelene torch.
WHITWORTH SOCKETS: Once used for working on older British cars and motorcycles, they are now used mainly for hiding six-month-old Salems from the sort of person who would throw them away for no good reason.
DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings your beer across the room, splattering it against the Rolling Stones poster over the bench grinder.
WIRE WHEEL: Cleans rust off old bolts and then throws them somewhere under the workbench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprint whorls and hard-earned guitar callouses in about the time it takes you to say, "Django Reinhardt."
HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering a Mustang to the ground after you have installed a set of Ford Motorsports lowered road springs, trapping the jack handle firmly under the front air dam.
EIGHT-FOOT LONG DOUGLAS FIR 2x4: Used for levering a car upward off a hydraulic jack.
TWEEZERS: A tool for removing wood splinters.
PHONE: Tool for calling your neighbor Chris to see if he has another hydraulic floor jack.
SNAP-ON GASKET SCRAPER: Theoretically useful as a sandwich tool for spreading mayonnaise; used mainly for getting dog-doo off your boot.
E-Z OUT BOLT AND STUD EXTRACTOR: A tool that snaps off in bolt holes and is ten times harder than any known drill bit.
TIMING LIGHT: A stroboscopic instrument for illuminating grease buildup on crankshaft pulleys.
TWO-TON HYDRAULIC ENGINE HOIST: A handy tool for testing the tensile strength of ground straps and hydraulic clutch lines you may have forgotten to disconnect.
CRAFTSMAN 1/2 x 16-INCH SCREWDRIVER: A large motor mount prying tool that inexplicably has an accurately machined screwdriver tip on the end without the handle.
BATTERY ELECTROLYTE TESTER: A handy tool for transferring sulfuric acid from car battery to the inside of your toolbox after determining that your battery is dead as a doornail, just as you thought.
AVIATION METAL SNIPS: See hacksaw.
TROUBLE LIGHT: The mechanic's own tanning booth. Sometimes called a drop light, it is a good source of vitamin D, "the sunshine vitamin," which is not otherwise found under cars at night. Health benefits aside, its main purpose is to consume 40-watt light bulbs at about the same rate that 105mm howitzer shells might be used during, say, the first few hours of the Battle of the Bulge. More often dark than light, its name is somewhat misleading.
PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the lids of old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splash oil on your shirt; can also be used, as the name implies, to round off Phillips screw heads.
AIR COMPRESSOR: A machine that takes energy produced in a coal-burning power plant 200 miles away and transforms it into compressed air that travels by hose to a Chicago Pneumatic impact wrench that grips rusty suspension bolts last tightened 40 years ago by someone in Abingdon, Oxfordshire, and rounds them off.
JESUS CLIP: "Jesus" everytime you drop one of these.
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17. January 2006 @ 10:23 |
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WHITWORTH SOCKETS: Once used for working on older British cars and motorcycles, they are now used mainly for hiding six-month-old Salems from the sort of person who would throw them away for no good reason.
I have a rather large set of those usless things ... several of the sockets are quite 'resined up' having been used as 'tokestones'
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17. January 2006 @ 10:24 |
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and to think... some of those are actually true....
i printed it and hung it up in the break room.. nice one ireland.
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17. January 2006 @ 10:26 |
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10 Best Car Repair Tools
1. Duct Tape: Not just a tool, a veritable Swiss Army knife in stickum and plastic. It's safety wire, body material, radiator hose, upholstery, insulation, tow rope, and more - in an easy to carry package. Sure, there's prejudice surrounding duct tape in professional competitions, but in the real world, everything from LeMans-winning Porsches to Atlas rockets and attack-helicopters use it by the yard. The only thing that can get you out of more scrapes is a quarter and a phone booth.
2. Vice Grips: Equally adept as a wrench, hammer, pliers, baling wire twister, breaker-off of frozen bolts and wiggle-it-til-it-falls-off tool. The heavy artillery of your tool box, vice grips are the only tool designed expressly to fix things screwed up beyond repair.
3. Spray Lubricants: A considerably cheaper alternative to new doors, alternator, and other squeaky items. Slicker than pig phlegm, repeated soakings will allow the main hull bolts of the Andrea Doria to be removed by hand. Strangely enough, an integral part of these sprays is the infamous Little Red Tube that flies out of the nozzle if you look at it cross eyed (one of the 10 worst tools of all time).
4. Margarine Tubs with Clear Lids: If you spend all your time under the hood looking for a frendle pin that caromed off the pertal valve when you knocked both off the air cleaner, it's because you eat butter. Real mechanics consume pounds of tasteless vegetable oil replicas just so they can use the empty tubs for parts containers afterward. (Some of course chuck the butter-colored goo altogether or use it to repack wheel bearings.) Unlike air cleaners and radiator lips, margarine tubs aren't connected by a time/space wormhole to the Parallel Universe of Lost Frendle Pins.
5. Big Rock at the Side of the Road: Block up a tire. Smack corroded battery terminals. Pound out a dent. Bop noisy know-it-all types on the noodle. Scientists have yet to develop a hammer that packs the raw banging power of granite or limestone. This is the only tool with which a "Made in Malaysia" emblem is not synonymous with the user being maimed.
6. Plastic Zip Ties: After 20 years of lashing down stray hose and wiring with old bread ties, some genius brought a slightly slicked-up version to the auto parts market. Fifteen zip ties can transform a hulking mass of amateur-quality wiring from a working model of the Brazilian Rain Forest into something remotely resembling a wiring harness. Of course it works both ways. When buying a used car, subtract $100 for each zip tie you find under the hood.
7. Ridiculously Large Craftsman Screwdriver: Let's admit it. There's nothing better for prying, chiseling, lifting, breaking, splitting or mutilating than a huge flatbladed screwdriver, particularly when wielded with gusto and a big hammer. This is also the tool of choice for all oil filters so insanely located that they can only be removed by driving a stake in one side and out the other. If you break the screwdriver -- and you will just like Dad and your shop teacher said -- who cares, it has a lifetime guarantee.
8. Baling Wire: Commonly known as MG muffler brackets, baling wire holds anything that's too hot for tape or ties. Like duct tape, it's not recommended for NASCAR contenders, since it works so well you'll never need to replace it with the right thing again. Baling wire is a sentimental favorite in some circles, particularly with the Pinto, Gremlin, and Rambler set.
9. Bonking Stick: This monstrous tuning fork with devilish pointy ends is technically known as a tie-rod separator, but how often do you separate tie-rod ends? Once every decade if you're lucky. Other than medieval combat, its real use is the all-purpose application of undue force, not unlike that of the huge flat-bladed screwdriver. Nature doesn't know the bent metal panel or frozen exhaust pipe that can stand up to a good bonking stick. (Can also be use to separate tie-rod ends in a pinch, of course, but does a lousy job of it).
10. A Quarter and a Phone Booth: See tip #1 above. * If it won't go - force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway....
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20. January 2006 @ 18:51 |
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Ireland, you're cracking me up. Keep going.
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