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sosafan19
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4. September 2005 @ 00:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
About 1/2 of the movies i burn start pixelation right from the beginning. I get frustrated after about 4 minutes of it and just trash the dvd. The origional has no problem and i can't figure out why it is doing this. I have had nothing but problems when it comes to burning dvd's. Can someone please help me. I am using a Lite On 16x burner, shrinking w/ dvd shrink, and burning w/ dvd decrypter. I am burning at 6x on a 16x disc. I don't know what updating firmware is, or how to do it. It is a brand new burner though, so i don't believe that is the problem. I ran the disc identity program, and i have a pretty okay type of disc. What else could it be? Also on Varsity Blues the images look darker than normal, and seem to be blurred during movement at times. Any help would be appreciated greatly! I am about to pull my hair out!!!!!!
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UncasMS
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4. September 2005 @ 02:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and this pixelation we deal with is related to hte burning process/media and has nothing to do with inferior conversion?
colw
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4. September 2005 @ 02:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There can be a number of reasons for pixelation.

1. Too much compression - with Shrink do not go below 60 to 70%
2. Poor quality media - what brand of media are you burning to (don't say Memorex).
3. Burning too fast - 4X recommended but 6X should be OK.
4. Use of adhesive labels on burnt DVD.
5. Inappropriate codecs.

Try ripping with Decrypter and then compressing with Shrink.
sosafan19
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4. September 2005 @ 02:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The discs i am using are Dynex. I am compressing w/ shrink, and ripping w/ decrypter. The compressed movies seem to look much better than the ones i don't need to compress. I just Reauthor it in shrink to get the main movie. The longest movies i have burned is the Matrix Trilogy. Looks great by the way.
sosafan19
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4. September 2005 @ 02:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How could i check and see if it was the inappropriate codecs?
sosafan19
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4. September 2005 @ 02:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Could i just have a junk brand or model for a burner?
UncasMS
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4. September 2005 @ 02:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
going from dvd9 to dvd5 using shrink there's no need to check for your *codec*

shrink can do a better job when using deep analysis + AEC
(Adeptive Error Compensation can be found in the backup => quality settings)

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 4. September 2005 @ 02:45

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4. September 2005 @ 02:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi

not sure but i think its dynex discs! read it somewhere else too...

Nothing here to see, move along folks.

capP
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4. September 2005 @ 03:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So glad that I come across this thread as I have this problem for a while now. I use Ritek as well as TDK discs (which are either CMC MAG E01 or TTG02)and both either pixelated badly after 1 to 2 use or failed writing even on speed 4.
based on what colw said then we should not burn a disc over speed 4 even discs are of higher speed? Also are adhesive labels bad for DVD? I'm using Fellowes Neato matt label. Are they no good? Should we use labels at all? Are direct print on OK?
Thanks for helping
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4. September 2005 @ 03:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi

yes read alot of threads on labels causing hassle...

print on should be better, i dont use labels at all, just write on them

yes 4x is mostly used by ad users here and by myself although people do burn over that and can work but good discs must be used!

i use ritek GO5 dye

Nothing here to see, move along folks.

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4. September 2005 @ 03:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cmc mag sucks pants big time not sure on other code you mention

Nothing here to see, move along folks.

colw
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4. September 2005 @ 04:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Labels can be very problematic - some people do not appear to experience problems while many others do.

From reading other peoples experiences on the After Dawn forums, I would think the genral consensus is not to use labels - I never have and with approx 1000 burns have not had a problem.

Faster burning increases probability errors - depending on the quality of media used you can probably burn faster but I prefer to stick with 4X. This generally takes between 12 to 15 minutes to burn a DVD5 and I can live comfortably with these times.

It is also useful to avoid burning to the edge of your disk and reduce target size to approx 4400 or a little less.

Defragmention of your hard drive and regular maintenance will also help.

On second thoughts 'codecs' are unlikely to be an issue.
UncasMS
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4. September 2005 @ 04:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
TTG02 is tdk manufactured in taiwan iirc

broad range of experiences have been reported with those
not too reliable i'd say

cmc is plain crap imho

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colw
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4. September 2005 @ 04:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have not posted this for a while - cld be useful

Listed below is my recipe for successful DVD burning - Have burnt between 500 and 1000 without any major burning or playback problems.

People are free to accept or reject this advice - it is not prescriptive, merely advisory and has worked very well for me.

1. Do not use labels on burnt media.
2. Keep your hard drive defragmented.
3. Ensure you have plently of free hard disk space.
4. Ensure you do not have sypware/virus on your system.
5. Keep you start up menu lean and clean.
6. Use a program such as HijackThis to ensure your start up log is lean and clean.
7. Avoid conflicting programs on your system e.g., Nero/Roxio do not play well together - choose one only.
8. Avoid the use of packet writing software e.g, INCD, Direct CD.
9. Avoid multi-tasking when ripping/encoding/burning.
10. Do not install problematic programs such as Interactual Movie Player and remove from system if installed.
11. Do not burn too fast (max 4x recommended).
12. Ensure definitions for virus and spyware programs are up to date.
13. Avoid burning unnecessary extras - do movie only in reauthor mode if using DVD Shrink
<http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_...
14. Use brand name, quality players for burning - e.g., Plextor, Pioneer, Lite-On etc.
15. Use an el cheapo Asian/Chinese standalone for playback - they are much more versitile and reliable than name brands and normaly handle both PAL and NTSC formats.
16. Use quality DVD media - Ritek, Verbatim, TY's recommended.
17. Reduce target size of burnt DVD to approx 4400 if using DVD Shrink.
18. Store safely and keep away from children.
19. Be very wary of downloaded movies - in most cases they are not worth the time or effort to reproduce.
20. Ensure that DMA mode is enabled in your system settings.
21. Load and skip through chapters on computer DVD player (e.g, Power DVD, WinDVD) prior to burning.

My System Specs (don't laugh)
PIII - 800 - 256Mb Ram
Programs used: DVD Shrink (98%), DVD Decrypter (approx 2%), Nero (almost 100%) for burning.
Success rate: 99% plus.
Burner: Pioneer 106D
ROM: JLMS - Lite-On
Rip/Encode time: Between 10 and 50 minutes (depending on movie) - normally under 30 minutes.
Burn Time: Between 12 and 15 minutes.
sosafan19
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5. September 2005 @ 02:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I got a Memorex DVD-R disc from a friend and tried same movie on that. Watched the first 5 or 10 minutes of it, and no pixelation, and looks completely clear. Could it just be the Dynex or the fact that they are DVD+RW?
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5. September 2005 @ 03:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sos....... your media is not the best ...... Memorex is considered crapy media....check out this list: http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

There are many reasons why you might be getting pixilations,skipping or freezing but the most common reason is low grade media! Try some Verbatim, Maxell, Sony, Taiyo Yuden disks..... you can get them online or in the stores.... TYs are only online: Supermedia.com, meritline.com. I stricktly use Taiyo Yuden DVD+R 8x..... 100% successful rate! out of 300 disks I only got one coaster cause the power went down while burning!!!! NOT THE DISK FAULT!
sosafan19
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5. September 2005 @ 20:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was using Dynex, which was a pretty good disc. Then i had a friend give me a -R which was a memorex. I didn't buy any of them, it was just a test. My question was are the DVD-R's better than the DVD-RW's?
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6. September 2005 @ 05:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
those disk are crap and will always be crap!
read this about DVD-R and DVD-RW: http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=118
it explains alot.
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