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Burnt DVDs are Skipping/Pausing mid play
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star321
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16. September 2005 @ 15:35 |
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About 20 minutes into my DVDs, they start to skip and or pause and then start to play again. What's going on? How do I fix this? Please help me as I sold my rare collection of DVDs and now when I play the burnt copies they all skip as i said.
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Car.Mike
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16. September 2005 @ 16:37 |
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star321 ,
Welcome to the forum. That usually is caused by inferior blank media. What was the brand of blank media you used?
D/L DvdinfoPro ( it is free and you can google for it) and see who the real manuf of the burned disks are.
While you are at it when you D/L that program run also the CRC test on the burned media to see if there are any errors
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star321
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16. September 2005 @ 18:07 |
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This is the Media Information I got
Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID CMC MAG E01
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Format Capacity 4.36GB(4.68GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Manufacturer Rated Speed 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 22E09Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1
Complete Media Code
00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 47 00 45 .......CMC MAG.E
00000020 30 31 00 38 23 54 37 10 02 38 6A 02 88 67 15 15 01.8#T7..8j..g..
00000030 0B 0B 08 08 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................ven
To be honest i have no clue what this means....When I did do a CRC check it showed about 130 errors. I don't really know what that means either or how to fix that from happening or if I can. Please help me if you can.
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16. September 2005 @ 18:15 |
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130 errors aren't too bad,especially for CMag media.
How fast did you burn them?
Since you no longer have the originals, try a few of those problematic discs on as many stand alone players and dvd drives as possible. Take note of where those issues occur on that backup and look at the same area on those other stand alones.
Also view one of those problematic discs on the pc using the DVD-RW drive that burned it,to play it and look at the same area where the issues occur.
It may just need a simple laser lens cleaning in your stand alone,if that is where the issues are showing up. See how other players perform with them.
Also try re-ripping one of those backups onto some quality media and test them out. If they have too many errors,then you'll get a crc error during the ripping phase.
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16. September 2005 @ 18:41 |
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Try a slower burn speed. I burn everything a 4x. Takes a little longer but I never have a problem.
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Car.Mike
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16. September 2005 @ 18:44 |
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star321,
saugmon is correct. Try a little better media than CMC as it is crap. I really suggest you borrow back that rare collection if possible and re-copy the DVD's but now use Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden blank Media.
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16. September 2005 @ 19:22 |
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Star321 still may have a chance at those backups.Hopefully they play ok in other stand alones. Worst case scenario is he may have to buy another cheapie dvd player.
If he can try re-ripping one of those backups using DVD Decrypter Mode ISO read and Mode ISO write, he may be able to re-back them up on the higher quality media. If DVD Decrypter doesn't let star321 rip those backups,then a slim chance of saving them.
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cobra1ak
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17. September 2005 @ 05:07 |
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I had a problem burning a DVD, tried both +R, -R, both arrived at the same part of the copied disc with no audio, original seems perfect....
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star321
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17. September 2005 @ 10:42 |
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I don't know where to get those brands of DVDs...a little help please? What brand name and where can I get better quality DVDs? Also I don't know how to use the ISO's. I just put the DVD in DVD Shrink..do the analysis, then encode , then burn. Is this not a good way that may be causing a problem?
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Car.Mike
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17. September 2005 @ 14:47 |
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star321 ,
You can get those DVD's @ www.supermediastore.com or www.meritline.com or www.rima.com or www.Newegg.com
Go to each website and see who is having a sale this week and then purchase the blank media from them via the internet.
What Saugmon is talking about is taking the already burned disks and re-burning them using DVDDecrypter in .iso mode to the new disks you will be getting. You can use DVDDecrypter to burn to a DVD-5 if the size is under 4.3gb. You insert the disk brink up DVDDecrypter and then go to Mode>iso read( DVDDecrypter will tell you where it is saved) then after it is finished then go to Mode> iso write>you will click on the .mds file and then it will write to the disk
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star321
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17. September 2005 @ 15:10 |
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Thank You So Much! i will try those sites and see what happens! thanks again to everyone for their help!
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dref
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21. September 2005 @ 10:22 |
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I have been going through similar problems with pixeled / freezing playback. I went through the inferior media/ burn speed scenario to determine through this systematic proccess of elimination, that these were not the culprits. I did something I have never done, I played some of the files I ripped with DVD Decrypter on my computer. There were problems on playback in the same areas as the burned discs. I guess the problem may be with decrypter, or the original dvd, and not DVD Shrink like I originally thought. I slowed down the read speed in decrypter, and have burned 1 disc succesfully since. Maybe this will help? I'll keep burning, and let ya'll know if I've gotten lucky.
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clowdy4
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21. September 2005 @ 14:50 |
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I agree the burn speed is set too high, anything over 4x you may be wasting a blank. Though bad media can sometimes be the culprit, I have found not until the movie has been viewed a few times and the disc for some reason deteriorates.
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Paone
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21. September 2005 @ 20:10 |
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I think it is important to note in this thread that if the harddrive that the original movie is being ripped to/new media is being recorded from is heavily fragmented, it will cause pixelation on playback no matter what you do. Make sure you're hard drive is defragmented, or better yet, create a harddrive partition that you only use for the ripped movies
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21. September 2005 @ 23:00 |
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all good comments, but i'm more concerned about the 130 errors. CRC is corruption. any disc i've ever had that skips/freezes, has had CRC errors upon checking the discs. you can try recopying to decent discs, however corruption is still corruption, ie some of the data on the disc is corrupted, hence i don't think it's gonna magically play normally even if you can copy successfully to another disc.... plus you may not be able to copy the data to a.n.other disc as corruption is still corruption. just my five pence..
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21. September 2005 @ 23:51 |
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and another thing.. When you do go to back those movies up, I would set DVD Decrypter to something like 5 or less for CRC Read retrys. The default is 20 and that means everytime Decrypter sees an error, it will stop the laser read and go back to the same error and try to read it again. You can hear the drive doing this. It takes foreeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeer for just one CRC error. I imagine it would take decrypter a day or so to finish that disc with that many errors (130 errors times 20 retries each). i may be slightly exaggerating, but only slightly and like creaky said- your data will be corrupted even if you get past those errors. Too many CRC errors and windows will throw your ide controllers into PIO mode slowing things down even more. it sux, but that is why many of us hate bad media with a passion. We try to tell anyone who will listen, about the woes of bad media. It usually falls on deaf ears until that person gets burnt by crappy media. I don't mean that about you guys in this thread.
Also Paone brings up a good point. If you use shrink and decrypter, you should check out your drive for fragmentation often. I ripped about 10 movies over the weekend and checked my drive for fragmentation and it looked like a war zone on the HD with all the red in there. The more you rip, the more often you should defragment,, especially if you do not have much free HD space.
I can't think of anything else to say not already said on this. Good luck, and pour yourself a stiff drink when you try to back up those CMCs to good stuff. You will need it..
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dref
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22. September 2005 @ 11:01 |
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Excelent reminder to defrag! I also agree with Creaky, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken crap. Well, technically you can, but soon, no one will come to your picnics.
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star321
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27. September 2005 @ 09:00 |
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So I got the better valued DVDs. Should I try to recopy the dvds from the burned ones I have or do you think it is a waste. And for all the suggestions, I don't know what to follow, although I appreciate them all. Let me know the steps and speeds I should use if you even think it is OK for me to try to burn from the skipping dvds i burned or do i need to get the originals back somehow and start over?
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jmet2
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27. September 2005 @ 12:38 |
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You will have to re-rip from the originals if you want to fix the problem.
Burning them to good media from bad media will not fix the problem.
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dref
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28. September 2005 @ 03:15 |
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Chicken salad out of chicken crap, told ya, can't be done.
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28. September 2005 @ 04:06 |
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Checkout gitoy's post in this thread about ripping his crap media backups onto ty media:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2/235973#1321820
He noticed considerable improvement,which I noted because of his stand alone player being able to read the higher quality media better.Those stand alone players will show these issues over 90% of all playback issues around here.Quality media=better playback!
Media may not be as crappy as some might think. Stand alone players are the sufferers of crappy media.By looking at those backups on your pc using the DVD-RW drive that burned it,it should be a near perfect copy.If it isn't near perfect,then probably junk.
star321: I asked you in an earlier post to view one or 2 of those discs using the DVD-RW drive that burned it to see if that issue would show up there.You're having problems at the 20 minute mark.View that same area while you play them on your burner drive.This issue needs verified.
Re-rip one of those discs using DVD Decrypter in Mode ISO read and Mode ISO write.It can't hurt. If there is something wrong with it,it will give you a crc error.Just look at the timer counting down and notice any weird jumps in the time.Those time jumps are spots where decrypter is having a harder time reading them. It only takes about 5-10 mins to re-rip to harddrive using ISO read.If it fails,it's usually in the first couple minutes.
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