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Tried Different Media Still Not playing in any Table Top DVD Player
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buckscrap
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19. September 2005 @ 06:24 |
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Well I have tried different brands of media and made plenty of coasters, I tried a Memorex RW today and still will not play in any table top DVD player, work fine in computer DVD drives. Whats the problem guys....HELP
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pmaknelho
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19. September 2005 @ 07:19 |
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Memorex is the worst media you could possibly use.
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buckscrap
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19. September 2005 @ 07:29 |
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Ok it maybe the worst, but that doesn't answer the problem, I don't care what media I have used and I have used 5 or 6 different brands and none work outside of the computer or laptop dvd players, remember this just started never had the problem before with any media very few coasters over a 300+ copying period....HELP
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konfused1
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19. September 2005 @ 08:44 |
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@bucksrap:
Other than Shrink, what other proggies are you using to rip your backups, if any?
If you're using Decrypter along with Shrink, have you tried unistalling and reinstalling both proggies>? Did you try putting the settings back to default?
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19. September 2005 @ 08:55 |
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How fast are you burning. Slow your burning speed to 4x and see if that helps.
Government big enough to supply everything you need is powerful enough to take everything you have.
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buckscrap
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19. September 2005 @ 08:58 |
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I have uninstalled and re-installed both with no help, I will try putting all to default settings and try again, I will also slow down burn speed
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konfused1
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19. September 2005 @ 09:20 |
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@buckscrap:
Just a suggestion, have you tried playing those coasters on other set top dvd players other than yours i,e your relatives or neighbors. They (coasters) might not work in your set top player(s), but it's always a good idea to test them is several different players.
Just a thought.
Good Luck!
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buckscrap
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19. September 2005 @ 09:43 |
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I have tried them on 3 or 4 other players with the same results. Again I cannot stress enough that the same burner was used 3 or 4 weeks ago with no problem, played fine. Any other ideas?
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19. September 2005 @ 09:54 |
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Start from the beginning of your problem. What exactly changed on your computer at the time your problem started. Did you add any software or hardware? Did you possibly download any spyware or adware that could be causing trouble. Did you restore to an earlier time. Something had to change if it worked 3 weeks ago. What OTHER brands of media are you trying to use besides Memorex. Just because you burned 300 dvds doesn't mean you can't run into a bad batch of blanks. With poor quality media you can have a 50% failure rate out of the same package. Some burn right some don't.
Jerry
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buckscrap
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19. September 2005 @ 10:29 |
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After setting defaults I tried again and no luck does not play, I have used Sony, Verbatim, Memorex, Fuji etc. no luck! Jerry746 just a little background, this problem is on a friends computer and laptop the media (he has given me a few) has been done on my home computer and they play fine, and as stated before he had no problem up until a few weeks ago. All aspects are functioning ok, but just won't play on table top dvd players, message no disc, disc unavailable etc...........HELP!
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21. September 2005 @ 11:21 |
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@Jerry - i knew buckscrap's username sounded familiar - i think this is the first one - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2/229685
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@buckscrap - experience (among other things) tells me that when someone declares "it's not the media", coupled with you writing a post, that it is probably most definitely the media. by all means provide more detailed info if you wish.....
- that was from me, i was awaiting more info on that thread
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Ok guys, you talk and talk about media well I have been using a couple of 100 el cheapo media with no problem and now I can copy anything play anything on computer dvds or tv top dvd players with no problem, using the same media all of a sudden on another computer it burns fine, plays fine on the computer but when we go to play on tv top dvd it reads no disc or disc unavailable...again let me stress I can record on my computer and no problem using the same media on a different recording dvd drive and it will not play other than in a computer or laptop.....HELP....It's not the media...!
unfortunately there's also 4 more of the same thread -
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/235110
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/235001
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/234288
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/232474
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buckscrap
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21. September 2005 @ 11:37 |
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Ok follow me on this one please:
You buy 100 whatever discs, your using 1/2 and someone else is using the other 1/2, you have had no problem on your pc or laptop til a week or so ago as far as reading the discs in table top. The other person has had no problem at all. You give the other guy a couple of your discs he writes and reads in tabletop player no problem, why then would it be the media? Riddle me that one! I am not getting mad at you guys but frustrated with the answers maybe I am missing something, but maybe you should think out of the box, like I said earlier you guys are the experts and I look at it that way. Help me out don't bust my aggies!
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21. September 2005 @ 11:58 |
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i'm helping (trying to), and thinking outside of the box is something i have to do as part of my job, so is usually second nature.
Anyway, blatant copy/paste from a post i was replying to earlier -
"one of the things about crap quality media is the fact that it is so inconsistent. it took me using/watching 500 of the exact same type of disc i was always buying before they let me down, then i wised up and found they were crap quality and that they were also FAKES of top notch Taiyo Yuden discs. Now one of my pet hates is bad media hence why i preach about it so much (and of course because crap media is crap, plus it costs more to buy crap media than decent media)"
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buckscrap
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21. September 2005 @ 12:05 |
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Then why can I use the same media from his pieces and it works fine?
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21. September 2005 @ 12:10 |
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i dunno what else i can say that others and myself haven't already said i'm afraid.
I'd say let me have a look at burn logs/system settings etc (i or others have probably already done that for you), but i suspect you won't be happy with the answers you get or keep getting. Media is one of THE most important aspects of burning.
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21. September 2005 @ 12:40 |
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@buckscrap
From what i read in your multiple post on this... and i'll bite, I think i understand what you are saying and what might be the problem. Your burner in your computer, or the source of the problem. Yes i know it reads in other PCs but not laptops. Yes i know it only started to happen a couple of weeks ago and before that it burned fine. This is just a guess on my part, as believe me machines fail all the time, no matter what their age. Maybe your laser has gunk on it from doing so many burns, or lint or something. It could be a number of things, but if, as you have stated in other posts no matter what brand or type of media you use, you get this problem, and it is only from your laptop, and you have checked all settings, then it sounds like the burner is burnt out, or almost burnt out and is just sputtering.. As i said before just a guess. I have a dvd of a movie i downloaded, Frankenhooker, and it only plays on a pc, but not a stand alone. Plays fine on pc, standalone gets no disc error. That is my next project, but i can't find that darned disc right now. Bear with us on the media questions. Too many times that is the only problem, and you did start out your post with you saying you were using memorex.. You open the floodgates when you say that, so don't get frustrated with all the people who are just trying to help you. :) is there any way you could swap out the burner with another one like a friend's? I know in laptops things dont swap out as easy as in desktops. Also the only thing else i could think of is firmware, but you said you checked all settings.. The more specifics you give, the faster we work on this, less details, and we become tea leave readers.. I think i have enough info from you for me to suggest the drive possibility and not media. Let us know how this goes.
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21. September 2005 @ 12:52 |
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@Maxburn - thanks, sifting thru multiposts clouded the issue for me..
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21. September 2005 @ 13:10 |
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@creaky, No problem.
@buckscrap, I was again reading thru your many posts on this very same problem, and i noticed you do not like to give out any specifics other than the general program you are using. It really could be the media if it doesnt work on standalones. It could be that the media reads fine and burns fine in your desktop because the desktop uses a different burner and firmware, and they handle that particular media fine. Your friends laptop burner is probably a different brand and it's firmware even if it is updated may not handle that media. I know you don't want to hear anymore about media, but unless you are using Tys or some other known good media for this test, it could be the media. Like Jerry746 said, if you go back to the begining of your problem, and you notice the only thing that changed is now you start having problems 1/2 way thru a batch of memorex, but it worked fine before.. I am not going to say it.. other than what i and others have said. Give us specifics and we can help. I mean nero burn logs as you said you use that. Edit out the serial numbers, or do a disk MID as other have asked on the media you are having problems with. Use good media, only one disc should do, and see if it still happens. If you use your friends laptop, and it burns a Ty or Verbatim, and the resulting disc plays in computers and not in standalones, then maybe the laptop burner is bad, and not the media. But you really have to use the good media. IF, you use TYs and everything is fine, please post back. We wont say i told you so, well i wont. :)
Die CMC Mag!!!
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21. September 2005 @ 13:28 |
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@buckscrap,
the only other thing i can think of is are you using a different method/program on the problem laptop? Sometimes the reason a file or movie will play on a pc and not a standalone is based on the file type. You could play an AVI clip on your pc from a data disc that had an AVI file, but a standalone would not recoginze that file type. Again just a guess. I still can't find that Frankenhooker DVD. Must be around here somewhere. When i find that, i think i will also find part of your answer. BTW please don't cross-post. It makes it much harder to answer you or follow your questions besides being against forum rules. If the reason you keep posting is because no one has been able to help you, you have to give us some more info, specific info. We aren't going to come to your house/dorm and steal your stuff or report you to the law. If you would have answered some of the many questions informed members have asked you, your problem might have been solved by now. No offense ment.
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buckscrap
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22. September 2005 @ 06:10 |
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This is the Decrypter log if this helps:
I 08:32:47 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 08:32:47 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 08:32:47 Initialising SPTI...
I 08:32:47 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 08:32:47 Found 1 DVD-RAM/±RW!
I 08:32:51 Operation Started!
I 08:32:51 Source Device: [1:0:0] MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-820S 1.50 (D:) (ATA)
I 08:32:51 Source Media Type: DVD+RW (Disc ID: PHILIPS-041-00)
I 08:32:51 Source Media Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
I 08:32:51 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: None
I 08:32:51 Source Media Implementation Identifier: Nero
I 08:32:51 Destination Folder: C:\PANIC_ROOM_SUPE\VIDEO_TS\
I 08:32:51 File Splitting: By File
I 08:32:51 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 08:32:51 Multi Angle Processing: No
I 08:32:51 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 08:32:51 Stream Processing: No
I 08:32:51 Copying VIDEO_TS.IFO... (LBA: 279 - 281) - KEY: N/A
I 08:32:52 Copying VIDEO_TS.BUP... (LBA: 282 - 284) - KEY: N/A
I 08:32:55 Copying VTS_01_0.IFO... (LBA: 285 - 319) - KEY: N/A
I 08:32:55 Copying VTS_01_1.VOB... (LBA: 320 - 524606) - KEY: N/A
I 08:39:08 Copying VTS_01_2.VOB... (LBA: 524607 - 1048893) - KEY: N/A
I 08:43:47 Copying VTS_01_3.VOB... (LBA: 1048894 - 1573180) - KEY: N/A
I 08:47:42 Copying VTS_01_4.VOB... (LBA: 1573181 - 2097467) - KEY: N/A
I 08:51:10 Copying VTS_01_5.VOB... (LBA: 2097468 - 2285810) - KEY: N/A
I 08:52:20 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP... (LBA: 2285811 - 2285845) - KEY: N/A
I 08:52:20 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:19:28
I 08:52:20 Average Read Rate: 3,913 KB/s (2.8x) - Maximum Read Rate: 5,729 KB/s (4.1x)
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22. September 2005 @ 06:22 |
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i've just had a thought. i'd got some brand new Verbatim rewritable +R discs last week. I knew my Cyberhome standalones had previously refused to play rewritables, but what i hadn't tried before was booktyping a rewritable to see if the player would think it had a dvd-rom disc, but nope, the disc just spun endlessly like it was a blank disc.
ie not all standalones can deal with rewritables, and my standalones normally play anything i throw at them.. What happens when you try write-once discs..
..plus you usually have to finalise discs for them to play properly. i'm not very familiar with Decrypter's basic burn logs, and can't see much there other than a supposed successful burn. but if you use other burn programs check if you finalise the discs properly..
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buckscrap
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22. September 2005 @ 06:42 |
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Creaky same thing happens with write once discs, but once I use Decrypter and anyalize, encode with DVD Shrink, then it burns the log states at end states "writing lead out" then states burn succesfull.
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22. September 2005 @ 06:50 |
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Looking at the Decrypter log, it looks like you are trying to copy a copy off a RW disc. If the first copy isn't burned well and the media used isn't the best, you are sure to have problems with the second copy. Cheap/poor quality media will degrade is a few months and give playback problems. If this is the case with the FIRST copy, any possible errors on that copy will be on the second copy and may actually be more pronounced. Some players have the ability to skip over errors while other players can't do it as well. The errors passed over during playback will show up during a re-burn of that copy. It all comes back to Use the best quality media you can get you hands on.
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22. September 2005 @ 06:54 |
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well one of my fave ways to troubleshoot troubleshoot stuff like this is to try a Nero 'simulation burn' just to get a juicy logfile as Nero's logs are a very good indicator of the burning capabilities of a machine. (i can't remember if you have Nero or not). Another very good thing is to download Nero's info-tool (free) and paste it's results. it's a very long log, but again it's a good indicator of conflicts etc etc. It's just the Decrypter log is not exactly throwing detail at us :)
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buckscrap
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22. September 2005 @ 07:12 |
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Last evening took the RW home that I copied from my friends laptop that did not play on the work DVD, it did not play on my table top at home either, so I burnt a movie on it with my home computer and it worked fine! I am looking into the Nero burn log at this time.
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