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speed and media basic questions
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inkybrown
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25. September 2005 @ 21:00 |
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Hi everybody, I'm a forum virgin, this is my first post! :-)
I am trying to decide what type of DVD media to buy. As I understand it, + and - are equally good. I read that Taiyo Yuden brand DVDs are best. My question is, what speed do I buy? I guess that 16x is best, but how do I know if I have a 16x speed burner? It is a new Dell Dimension 9100, and I have never used a DVD burner before. Also, is dual layer worth looking into if I plan on copying DVDs? In what case would DL be necessary? I mostly want to copy DVDs.
thanks!!!
inkybrown
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Dell Dimension 9100, 3.00 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 (2MB cache), 1 gig memory, 160 gig hard drive, Windows XP Home Edition
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js78
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26. September 2005 @ 03:58 |
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OK, first and foremost, welcome to the forum. Secondly, just because some DVDs can burn at 16x doesn't mean you should burn that fast. If you burn at a fast speed, you're just asking for errors. You should always try to burn at 4x. This may take a little bit longer, but your chances of a bad burn is very slim. I'm not sure what the speed of your burner is, but if you click on Start and click on My Computer, you can right click on your DVD burner and check out the properties. It should tell you there. I've never used a dual layer DVD before. No need to really. If you use DVD Shrink, it can compress the data down to fit onto a DVD-5 with no problem.
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26. September 2005 @ 04:21 |
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Inky: You've got to download the free program called dvdidentifier. It will tell you your actual burner model # and the MID codes on your blank media. You can get it here:
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_tools/dvd_id...
I just hope dell didn't slap in the phillips 8631 DVD-RW drive in it.It may even be a benq?
Let us know the exact model# of your DVD-RW drive.Also tell us the firmware version that will be listed next to your burner model# on the dvdidentifier program.
For the prices and overall burnspeed, definitely get the 8x. Look at the ty's, sony, fuji,maxell, and verbatim data life plus in that 8x speed range.Some of those fuji and sonys are made by taiyo yuden.
For burning dvd movies,definitely 4x to start with. You might want to buy a batch of quality plus and dash format.Your stand alone players and pc drives will tell you which format they like,otherwise they'll give you a no disc inserted type of error.
Your burner may be capable of booktyping the plus format if it is a benq.
The dual layer media price is coming down. A few months ago they were $10 apiece,now about $3.50 when on sale.It would be a nice option to have.Even if that burner on your dell doesn't work out,you can get a heck of a good quality DL burner for well under $50 including shipping.
Your blank media will be the most critical part of the dvd backup process.You definitely need the good stuff. Who knows,maybe 6 months down the road you may want to re-rip those backups for extra copies. The cheaper manufacturers backups may not be able to be re-ripped.Also it can be harder to re-rip if that media was burned too fast to start with. Standalone players may have difficulty reading your backups if they were burned too fast,but usually poorer playback.
It's all about those little errors you get when you burn dvds. We try to reduce these little errors by slower burns,no multi-tasking,reduced compression,and quality media.
If you want some good quality media,made by taiyo yuden,you've got to check out staples for their awesome fuji sale. Look for made in japan on the shrink wrappers for the ty's.
I try 8x,12x,and 16x burns on my 8x media just to give them a rigorous test. The majority of the 8x media will successfully burn at the 12x and 16x speed,but I still keep it at 4x and sometimes 2.4x just to be on the safe side.
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27. September 2005 @ 02:11 |
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and theres NO quality difference between blank media that burns at 16X compared to 4X and the 4X and 8X is MUCH less expenisive. and as said use the good stuff Taiyo Yuden ,Verbatim or Ritek(ridata) in that order burning at 4X. You can also buy blank media online too at supermedia store.com ,meritline.com ,rima.com or newegg.com all are top notch retailers. get back with us if you need help on WHAT programs to use to backup your dvds
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. September 2005 @ 02:12
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inkybrown
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27. September 2005 @ 10:54 |
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Thanks, everybody! I am still a little confused on this, but I will definitely start by burning at slower speeds. I downloaded DVD Identifier, and I have a NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A [FW 1.01]
As for software, I need help. I searched on google for DVD copying and purchased the Video Vault/DVDXPlatinum combination (and DVD43 as freeware). However, in another forum I was told that I don't need these things, and instead I should try products like CloneDVD, AnyDVD, DVDFabDecrypter, DVDShrink, DVDDecrypter, etc. What I want is the ability to copy DVD9 to DVD5 without losing too much video/audio quality, and overall ease of use as this is new to me. I read that DVDShrink can be difficult to use, but that CloneDVD is pretty easy. As a bit of a perfectionist, I want to get this right and not waste time and money on sub-par programs that will leave me dissatisfied. Any advice? I can use y'all's help on this, and I am really glad I found this website! :-)
As for my new computer system, here are the details:
Dell Dimension 9100, 3.00 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 (2MB cache), 1 gig memory, 160 gig hard drive, Windows XP Home Edition
Thanks,
inkybrown
http://www.amybrown.net
Dell Dimension 9100, 3.00 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 (2MB cache), 1 gig memory, 160 gig hard drive, Windows XP Home Edition
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27. September 2005 @ 15:28 |
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Quote:
I read that DVDShrink can be difficult to use
That's nonsense. After a couple tries with DVD Shrink,you'll slap yourself silly at how easy it is to use it.
It's actually an excellent,high-quality program.When those dvd-9's have to really be compressed,DVD Shrink has extra quality enhancements to help deal with that high compression.There are some other things you can cut out like sub-titles,extra sound streams,ending credits when you re-author in DVD Shrink so you can get the compression down.
Dvd decrypter will burn for DVD Shrink. Nero also works,which is what I prefer.Decrypter is also free,and you can get a free month trial of Nero.I've got a buddy who downloaded it and it still burned his dvd's without renewing it for another 8 months.
You are one of the lucky ones with the NEC 3540. It's a very good burner.
Here's a couple tips:
Try DVD Shrink.It's free and you can judge for yourself on it's quality.
Quality media. None of the cheapo/generic/store brand name/memorex
4x burn speed max.
No multi-tasking
No paper/stick on labels
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28. September 2005 @ 00:44 |
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inkybrown dvd shrink and dvd decrypter (freeware is pretty easy to use yes BUT i think you would prefer CloneDVD 2 with anydvd i think its the best combo out there for quality and ease of use and you can get the combo for 59 bucks thats a great deal for software of that quality and anydvd updates for life download it and try the free 21 day trial to see how you like it before you buy ,heres the link
http://www.slysoft.com/en/
and a guide to use the programs mention here
http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html
the guides are of great value starting out
and remember to use good blank media as we said and burn at 4X you will have perfect backups everytime
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 28. September 2005 @ 00:46
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josephga
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28. September 2005 @ 18:00 |
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i have a 16x burner and i burn all mine at 2.4 and i rarely have coasters. so far 4 out of 200 id rather take it slow and not waste media
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