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tvscreen
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28. September 2005 @ 03:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
on random parts of the movies i copy there are "glitches" where random parts of the screen will get pixeley for a split second, or sometimes the entire movie turns into big greenish squares, or the movie just freezes up.

My burner is Samsung TS-H552U
Fugi DVD+R (made in Japan, those are the good ones right)
also had problems with sony DVD-R disks
I compress to 4300 MB
i've burned at 2.4 speed and still bad
I use dvd shrink to compress and nero to burn, tried using nero for both and had bad results
firmware seems to be updated, it's the "06" version, don't have the exact info right here, right now

HELP please
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28. September 2005 @ 03:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hmmm, that is a good summary, all sounds good so far. let's have the rest of the info, pls paste the LATEST section of Nero logfile which lives in c:\program files\ahead\nero\nerohistory.log, but DO NOT paste your serial number. it could be just a conflict or something...



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28. September 2005 @ 03:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm at work right now so i can't get that for you. I'll get it as soon as i get home but that won't be until about 6 tonight
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28. September 2005 @ 04:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No worries, I'm here most nights



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28. September 2005 @ 04:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
On those pixellation and freezing issues:

How are you viewing them? Stand alone player or pc drive?

The rest of your info looks great. Good quality media,slow burn speed,but you can increase that backup target to 4360 mbs on the quality ty fuji media.They should code as Yuden000-T02

90% of the time those issues are while they are viewed on stand alone players.

These issues need verified:

1) Play one or two of those problematic discs on as many stand alones/pc drives that you can.Go visit your friends and family and slap those backups in their drives. Notice the area where those issues take place while you view them in other drives.
The more players,the better on this verification.

2) Play one of those problematic discs on the pc using that samsung burner drive to play it. Look at general area where those issues show up. This drive should play it's own backups at near perfection.

3)On your next backup,bump up that burn speed to 4x. I've noticed my yuden000-T02 backups are having a harder time being read by my pc drives on the ones burned at 2.4x-crc errors. The backups that were at 4x are near perfect. Very odd!!
Please post back your results




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28. September 2005 @ 04:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i'm going to my parents tonight so i'll take some disks over there and try them out.

4x speed isn't an option for me, it has max, 2.4 and 1x
How do i get the 4x option

Also how do i verify that i have TY disks
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28. September 2005 @ 09:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are you just using DVD Shrink to rip?

Have you tried using DVD Decrypter?

Click on the link in my sig, and follow the guide.

Good Luck!

"The more information you can give about your problem, the better we can help you."

ScubaPete's guide: http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/petesguide2.html



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28. September 2005 @ 10:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Maybe something is wrong with your DMA settings. You should be able to burn over 8x with TY discs (however 4x is the way to go).

Maybe you need some drivers for your motherboard. Look for Driver updates from the motherboard manufacturer's wesite. You might need an IDE driver or something.
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28. September 2005 @ 15:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
CREAKY, here's that log file

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 6:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U>Version: US06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U>Version: US06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST3120026A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U D: CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 510MB (522736kB)
Free physical memory: 193MB (197996kB)
Memory in use : 62
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

27.9.2005
UDF/ISO compilation
8:57:26 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started

8:57:26 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

8:57:26 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
UDF document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

8:57:26 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files sorted

8:57:26 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

8:57:26 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U running

8:57:26 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

8:57:26 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

8:57:26 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

8:57:26 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2202159 (489:22.09, 4301MB)

8:57:26 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

8:57:26 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000, Media Type ID: T02, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

8:57:26 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

8:57:26 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2202160 (2202160) = #2202160/489:22.10
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2202160 blocks [TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U]
--------------------------------------------------------------

8:57:26 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4510023680, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2202160 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

8:57:26 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

8:57:26 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
Cache writing successful.

8:57:26 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

8:57:26 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

8:57:26 PM #20 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1180
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x03A05A00
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x24
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0xFF 0x40 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00

8:57:26 PM #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

8:57:26 PM #22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000
Media type ID: T02
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E - 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 ...YUDEN000T02.8
23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 - 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A #T7..Nr..c......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

8:57:26 PM #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000
Media type ID: T02
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E - 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 ...YUDEN000T02.8
23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 - 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A #T7..Nr..c......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

8:57:26 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000
Media type ID: T02
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E - 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 ...YUDEN000T02.8
23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 - 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A #T7..Nr..c......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

8:57:26 PM #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 6747
Drive: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U
Book Type request [TSST]: DVD-ROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

8:57:26 PM #26 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5065
Book Type automatically set to: DVD-ROM

8:57:26 PM #27 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 665
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

9:20:02 PM #28 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552U> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2202160 (219A30h), lenght 0 blocks

9:20:02 PM #29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

9:20:34 PM #30 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 3/11/2005 6:28:13 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/4/2004 1:59:42 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
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28. September 2005 @ 16:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Looks like a fine log report to me,they're even booktyped to dvd-rom.

Definitely test them out in other stand alones.

Another contributor to those issues is compression. Highly compressed backups can cause issues like this.
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28. September 2005 @ 17:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok,
i played them in my parents player and they worked better but not perfect. The parts that turned into the green squares didn't do that but there were still parts that got pixely. And the same is true for playing it on my pc.

So on a hunch I played the video files right off of my hard drive and there they were, the dang pixels. So i'm assuming i have a compressing issue, not a burning issue. right?

Could the problem be that i only have 512Mb of ram, i'm getting an additional gig for another reason, but i'd like to hear any other ideas.

BTW, I also checked DMA settings and they're good
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28. September 2005 @ 17:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
512 mbs ram should be plenty. When you backup,just turn off all backgrounds apps like antivirus,firewall,messenger,etc. That will free up some memory.

I've only got 128 mbs rimm on my backup pc along with a p-3 celeron. Those backups look near original. The adaptive error compensation enhancements like max sharpness and max smoothness help out on the quality,but take longer. 12+ hours on that backup pc,vs 1hr on main pc using the max smoothness enhancement in DVD Shrink.
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28. September 2005 @ 17:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A couple things:
1) Make sure you are not multitasking/ or running any other programs in the background while the burning process is going on.
2) Make sure and run a virus check and spyware check.
3) Run Nero's Disc Quality Test to see how the disc looks. High PIE/PIF's will cause bad playback.

I just had my 1st bad YUDEN002 burn on one of my OZ discs...pixeled on menus and some chapters....ran it through to Disc Quality Test and it turned out to be a bad disc. Scan looks like $#!+.

2.4 Celeron;512k ram; 80gig HD; 60gig HD; Windows XP(SP1).
Sony DRU-710A (BYX4)
DVD Shrink/DVD Decrypter.
TYG02;YUDEN002;MCC blanks.
Favorite Media: Sony 8x+R(MADE IN JAPAN)

Laptop: 1.4 Ghz;256k ram; 40 gig HD;Windows XP
NEC ND-6650A Burner
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28. September 2005 @ 17:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
logfile seems fine. all i can think to ask is were any of these movies converted from AVI's or whatever, as i've seen problems for instance where vso's DivXtoDVD has created the green scares/pixellation in it's conversion process.



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28. September 2005 @ 18:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I close everything out when i'm copying/burning,
but tomorrow i'm going to try the following stuff

1. make sure there isn't stuff running in the background and run my antivirus and spyware stuff
2. try compressing with the adaptive error stuff turned on
3. try using DVD Decrypter instead
4. try out neros disk quality test

you'll be hearing from me after i get all that done

thanks for all you guys help so far
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28. September 2005 @ 18:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
pls also look at my last reply...



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29. September 2005 @ 03:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
creaky, i looked at that, sorry i didn't mention it but they're not AVI. (i don't think) They're just regular dvd's the most recent being the new family guy movie. (which by the way isn't actually a movie it's just the first 3 episodes of the next season)
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29. September 2005 @ 03:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
damn!, thought i was on to something there :)

ah well, more thinking, pondering and mulling over to be done...



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29. September 2005 @ 04:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's a few other possibilities that can cause those issues:

Paper/sticker labels
Fragmented hard drive
tvscreen
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29. September 2005 @ 05:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i don't use labels,
i defraged last night, so maybe that'll help, but i've been having this problem from day 1. But maybe it was bad disks before, i was using sony DVD-R.
If the old problem was bad disks and the new problem is something else will that Nero disk quality test show the old ones as bad and the new as good? Or does that just show that they burned bad. My question is does "nero disk quality test" test for quality of actual disks or quality of the copy/burn
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29. September 2005 @ 06:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
tvscreen, When all else has been examined, Make sure the original source, be it a DVD disc or online download is in good shape. Clean your disc media of finger prints particularly the source DVD because this can allow for you to back up a bad copy which will only multiply as you seek to make duplicates. This can easily be overlooked as the reason for the problem you described and can be the easiest solution.
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29. September 2005 @ 08:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That Nero speed test won't really show you much unless they are horrible burns. Try to download the free version of dvdinfopro. It can be a pain to download it,but there is a PIE/PIF error scan test in that program. Use the DVD-RW drive that burned it to run that scan. You can get it here:

http://www.dvdinfopro.com/
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29. September 2005 @ 11:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When copying a DVD, if the original DVD is dirty (a library copy for instance) could that create a copy that freezes or skips?

I have started cleaning every DVD with a dvd doctor cleaning product, getting rid of all scratches and finger prints and I believe i have had a lot less glitchy copies

anyone have that result?
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29. September 2005 @ 12:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the last one i did was brand new, not a mark or piece of dust on it, and its still bad
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29. September 2005 @ 13:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How old is your PC? and has it always had this trouble? (Curious)
 
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