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How do you use DVD Decrypter with AnyDVD?
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29. September 2005 @ 09:35 |
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I'm trying to gear up for when DVD Decrypter can not longer decrypt the latest copy protection. Though I have not personally seen a movie that it could not decrypt, I am hearing there are some out now.
So anyway I see a lot of comments about AnyDVD being the best. I don't know much about this program other that it runs in the background and strips on the fly as a separate ripper is ripping it. Is that about right?
If so, a separate ripper is still needed along with being able to compress and re-author.
I'm reading comments about still using DVD Decrypter with it. Then I read that DVD Decrypter has problems if AnyDVD is running. So which is it? If using DVD Decrypter with AnyDVD, would there be some settings in DVD Decrypter that would need to be changed so DVD Decrypter is not actually decrypting but just ripping?
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konfused1
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29. September 2005 @ 10:53 |
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For the sake of simplifying, it is best to use either or, not both at the same time. Technically, you can use both. AnyDVD to rip, you don't need to open decrypter (since AnyDVD works in the background), but you can use it's (decrypter) burner to burn the disc. That's about it in a nutshell.
If anyone has a simpler explanation, please feel free.
ThanX!
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29. September 2005 @ 14:38 |
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I didn't think AnyDVD actually ripped. I thought you needed a separate ripper and AnyDVD just decrypted as a ripper was ripping it, in other words, going through AnyDVD first on it's way to the ripper. Have I got that wrong?
Also, I heard AnyDVD does not rip the DVD movie to the hard drive, but goes straight to encoding/compression/burning. So how do you edit then? I'm used to DVD Decrypter rip/decrypt to hard drive, then DVD Shrink works off of that to do the editing (re-authoring), then encoding.
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konfused1
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29. September 2005 @ 17:02 |
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@ MikeO89:
"ANYDVD removes CSS Copy Protection and RPC Region Codes". Essentially, it's done all the work, if you combine it with the proggie CloneDVD (from the same maker), you don't have to rip to your HD, just insert the blank disk, and you're good to go.
I, myself, don't use AnyDVD (Decrypter is still working, thank god), but if and when Decrypter dies, that'll probably where I'll turn to for my back up needs.
As for editing, again, I have never used AnyDVD, so I don't know about being able to edit the content of the movie. I've read some aD members using AnyDVD with DVD Shrink (and Nero for burning), so I guess anything's possible.
Why don't you try out their free 21 day trial and see how you like it. Put it to the test, and see for yourself.
Good Luck!
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Car.Mike
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29. September 2005 @ 17:17 |
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MikeO89,
konfused1 is correct. AnyDVD is a driver based decrypter that works in conjunction w/ various compression programs. Since the program can not do anything but decrypt then you have to use other programs to transcode, encode, or compress the DVD. Even Shrink puts the edited movie on the HD for Nero or DVDDrypter to burn. The other programs do the same . I do not know of a program that can transcode or encode and then compress a DVD on the fly to the disk. So technically all of the progras use the HD BUT some erase the files after burning
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29. September 2005 @ 18:03 |
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I don't really plan on buying AnyDVD, I just wanted to know more about it. I still don't like the idea of the program running in the background all the time. I'm a DVD Decrypter/DVD Shrink user who has used nothing but those for my burning. I've heard the Lords of Dogtown has a new copy protection that DVD Decrypter can't decrypt. I would never burn that movie (nor would I watch it) anyway so DVD Decrypter is still batting 100% for me. I watch a lot of movies but I only burn the ones I think I would watch again. I went through and got over my newbie "burn everything I get my hands on" period. Heh heh.
I'm going to keep going with what I have until I hit my first DVD movie (that I like) that DVD Decrypter fails on. So far it looks like when that time comes, I would first give DVDFab Decrypter a try. That way I could still use DVD Shrink for re-authoring (and also still use DVD Decrypter to burn if I chose). I have a feeling that even though some DVD's will come out that DVD Decrypter can't crack, there will still be more that it can. I'm counting on that cause I really like those two programs. I see no reason to chuck them both as long as they still do the job.
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Car.Mike
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29. September 2005 @ 18:23 |
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MikeO89 ,
I turn off AnyDVD until it is needed so it is not on 98% of the time. Your plan of action is sound (using DVDFAB Decrypter/Shrink/DVDDecrypter) as your cost factor is zero. Could you go and work for the Gov't. LOL If you have any more problems just start another thread but I think you have it down OK
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29. September 2005 @ 20:07 |
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Man, the government sure doesn't want me working there. The first thing I would do is, FIRE EVERYBODY!!!!!
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Cobrajet
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29. September 2005 @ 20:22 |
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I use a number of programs, but mostly I have AnyDVD running, stick in the disc and dump the DVD to the hard disk with DVD Decrypter. From there I run Shrink to put it on a DVD blank. So far with 100+ backups hasn't failed me yet.
I also have CloneDVD2 which I want to use to it's pontential someday, and use MagicDVD Ripper to split the movie onto two discs if need be.
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29. September 2005 @ 21:00 |
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Hi Mike,
You can sort of "hop up" DVD Decrypter with AnyDVD. Give this a try...
Open Decrypter, click on Tools then Settings. Now click on the I/O tab of the Settings menu.
On the left are the different interfaces Decrypter can use. Yours is probably set on SPTI-Microsoft. Change it to ElbyCDIO-Elaborate Bytes.
This is one of the small gifts that Lightning UK gave us before he stopped Decrypter development. ElbyCDIO is the name of the DLL file that AnyDVD uses to do on the fly decrypting. As long as you keep AnyDVD updated then Decrypter will stay updated as well.
Decrypter and AnyDVD get along just fine.
The last part of your first post mentioned ripping without decrypting.... Actually one cannot happen without the other.
AnyDVD is a great program from a company that works hard to stay ahead of the new encryptions. For a while they offered Afterdawn members a $10.00 discount on a $29.00 program. I had already bought it a couple of weeks before the offer went into effect so I told them and they sent me a check for $10.00!
The program is non intrusive and does not interfere with anything I do. Most of the time I forget it's even there. I'm reminded when I open a DVD in Shrink and it says It's not encrypted. Then I remember the little red fox.
Cheers,
Frank
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29. September 2005 @ 21:32 |
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Thanks Frank, that's some handy info.
I have a question for you since you seem to be in the know. The thing I'm still the most confused about regarding AnyDVD is questions I have asked regarding ripping. Some say DVD Decrypter is not needed, some say AnyDVD is not a ripper, and still others say to rip with AnyDVD. That's got my head not jiving right (maybe it's just my head). It is said AnyDVD runs in the background. So does that mean you can't actually open the program to rip a DVD (like you do with DVD Decrypter)? Please explain how you would rip a DVD to hard drive with AnyDVD installed. I would also want to do re-authoring because I always just burn the movie (and like to also remove foreign language tracks and end credits using DVD Shrink).
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29. September 2005 @ 21:44 |
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Your Welcome!
I just thought it was pretty cool when I found out about the Elby interface. He was thinking ahead when he added that little feature.
Edit
Hehe you edited your message so now I have to read it again!
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29. September 2005 @ 22:01 |
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Yeah that is very cool. I had never seen that posted before. Most of the stuff I've read said AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter do not get along together. In fact I thought I remembered UK Lightning himself say to make sure AnyDVD was not running while using DVD Decrypter. Maybe that was awhile back.
Now have you read my edited post yet? I'm hoping you're the one that can explain this to me so my thick head can understand it. I still can't understand my wife but maybe you can get through to me. Heh heh. (he looks around nervously to make sure the wife is not reading this)
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29. September 2005 @ 22:27 |
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I'll try and explain as best I can.
It is mainly a matter of the capabilities of each program and what you want to have accomplished by them.
Generally that means taking an encrypted movie and either putting it on a blank DVD-5 single layer disc or a DVD-9 double layer disc.
The first order of business is removing the encryption. For that you must open the movie in a program.
You can open it with Decrypter for example and use it to remove the encryption and then burn, without any compression, to a double layer blank.
You could open it with Shrink to remove the encryption, compress and edit to DVD-5 size and then use or have Shrink call another program, like Decrypter or Nero to burn.
You cannot open the movie or anything else in AnyDVD!
AnyDVD just sits on your computer. But you can open the movie with Shrink or Decrypter and to these programs the movie will appear unencrypted with AnyDVD running in the background.
So......
When you have AnyDVD what is the point of DVD Decrypter or DVD Shrink?
These programs have other features that are vital to get your movie from the original to the blank, besides removing the encryption....
To compress a movie to fit your blank DVD-5, you could use Shrink to compress the AnyDVD decrypted movie.
You can use Decrypter to burn your AnyDVD decrypted movie to a double layer DVD.
Because some new movies have encryption that cannot be overcome by Decrypter or Shrink, AnyDVD provides a way to extend the life of these programs which have these very functional features.
AnyDVD does nothing without a "host" program.
Many programs have never been able to copy encrypted DVDs. Nero Recode for example. With AnyDVD you simply open Recode and proceed.
So is AnyDVD a ripper? Yes, in the sense that it allows other programs to have the capability of copying encrypted DVDs.
Well thats a long winded explanation, I hope it helps. Try the trial out and it will explain itself better than I can!
Frank
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29. September 2005 @ 22:36 |
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Ok you explained that well. I'll have to try the trial version.
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30. September 2005 @ 00:22 |
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I went ahead and bought AnyDVD and have been happy with it so far. It works like DVD43 but is updated and doesn't seem to have conflicts with other programs like DVD43 did. Since it is constantly updated, new encryptions are usually broken before you see the movie for sale or rent.
@fastfrank, Thanks for the info on setting up DVD Decrypter to use AnyDVD. I will set mine up like that as soon as I get home. I only had one movie that AnyDVD couldn't handle and it was a problem with the original disc, not some special encryption. Got CRC errors in every progam used, and original disc was very clean, no scratches. Must have been a bad press. Those of you thinking about trying AnyDVD, give it a try. It works great for me.
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DogBomb
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30. September 2005 @ 05:46 |
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AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter are much alike - they just do ripping, not compression. But AnyDVD does it quietly in the background. When you insert a DVD, just open the AnyDVD app. Then all you have to do is drag and drop the VIDEO_TS folder from the DVD to your hard drive. And if you use dual-layer discs, you can pretty much burn the VIDEO_TS folder to the disc and have a perfect copy without worrying about compression or splitting onto 2 DVDs. (I say copy to hard drive is mandatory because I doubt you could burn on-the-fly without making a coaster.) If you need to compress onto a single-layer or split onto 2 DVDs, then you would need a second program like DVD Shrink or CloneDVD.
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30. September 2005 @ 06:03 |
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@Mike089
FasFrank gave you an excellent explanation (thanks, fasfrank). When I first started burning about 4-5 months ago, I used DVDDecrypter and Shrink -- and they worked fine. Someone on here suggested using AnyDVD together with CloneDVD2 and I d/l them for the 21-day trial period. I was impressed with both proggys and bought them for $59.00 (before the $10 discount) and I use them about 98% of the time. I used bbmayo's guide and found it to be very easy to use. I am not nearly as smart (technically) as some of the members here, and I can't offer any information as to how AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 actually work, but they are excellent programs.
Also, don't fire all government workers. I have been with the government for 38 years and I have reached a very high position, but I worked my a@@ off to get here -- lot of long hours and frequent travel. I will agree with you that we have a fair number of workers that should be fired. I have been trying for almost a year to get rid of someone that is simply lazy and incompetent, but it almost not worth the time and effort I have put into documenting everything. Sometimes the Merit Protection Board is a good thing, and sometimes not. OK, I'm off my soapbox.
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smsmike
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30. September 2005 @ 20:54 |
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Quote:
You cannot open the movie or anything else in AnyDVD!
AnyDVD just sits on your computer. But you can open the movie with Shrink or Decrypter and to these programs the movie will appear unencrypted with AnyDVD running in the background.
True enough, but you don't need ANY type of copy program to transfer the DVD to your Hard Drive with AnyDVD running. Simply Cut and Paste the VIDEO_TS folder, (or Drag and Drop it) to the partition of your choice. Windows will copy the DVD for you and it will be letter perfect. AnyDVD gives you the option to remove all sorts of other things besides the copy protection. It has a full "Setup System" just like Shrink and Decrypter have.
Once you have that VIDEO_TS folder on your hard drive, you can THEN use Shrink or Nero Recode 2 to compress it (if necessary) or just crank up your Computers DVD Player and watch the movie from your Hard Drive instead of the DVD disk.
I used DVD Decrypter and Shrink exclusively until I discoverd how simple and FAST it was to use AnyDVD in conjunction with Nero Recode 2.
Now that I have tasted the SPEED and total accuracy of those two programs working together, I will never go back.
- Mike -
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30. September 2005 @ 23:33 |
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AnyDVD will make shrink go faster. The file comes up as not encrypted so shrink encodes and analyzes faster. I ripped Near Dark in 23 minutes using AnyDVD(running in background) and 6x burn speed. When shrink had to decode, the same movie took around an hour to rip/burn. As far as it running in the background, you can right click on the fox and exit the program if you think it may have conflicts. I haven't tried the copy/drag method for file transfer, but i will give that a try. Thanks for the info. I held off on buying AnyDVD for a few months while i was using DVD43. Now i have un-installed DVD43 and AnyDVD has taken it's place.
@Mike089 You can still go the free route on new encryptions just by using DVDFabDecrypter. It is updated to handle the latest protections, but it rips to the HD like DVD Decrypter without all the extra goodies DVD Decrypter has. If you do go ahead and by AnyDVD, i don't think you will be disappointed. Good Luck and many happy burns.
Die CMC Mag!!!
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