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What is the Difference Between DVD+R and DVD+R for Video
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Cibus
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15. October 2005 @ 09:03 |
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I have a PS2 and have recorded movies on DVD+Rs. I have had two types of discs; one, Verbatim DVD+R, will not play on the Playstation (I know why now), the other, Verbatim DVD+R Recordable for Video, does play? What is the difference between the two? They are both made by the same company except when says that it is special for movies. What is the difference?
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Alte subvolat avis nimis nullalis subvolat suis si.
In principio erat verbum, et verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud deum. Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil, quod factum est. In ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hominum, et lux in tenbris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt... Erat lux vera, quae illuminat omnem hominem venientem in mundum. In mundo erat, et mundus per ipsum factus est, et mundus eum non cognovit. In propria venit, et sui eum non receperunt. Quotquot autem receperunt eum, dedit eis potestatem filios Dei fieri, his, qui crederunt in nomine ejus, qui non ex sanguinibus neque ex voluntate carnis neque ex voluntate viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt. Et verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis.
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15. October 2005 @ 09:55 |
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hi. i hear that PS2's can be very picky when it comes to burnt dvd's. One thing i've read is that ppl keep the burn speed as low as possible, even like 1x.
However let's see exactly which Verbatim's those are, download dvd identifier (free) - http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_tools/dvd_id... and use it to 'identify' each type of Verbatim disc then paste the results here
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15. October 2005 @ 12:12 |
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@ Cibus hi :)
again i must agree with creaky
i never burn PS2 stuff above 2.4x, found out by personal experience the slower the better
from what it tells us in our Glossary section on -r video nothing is mentioned about +r. read link below
http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/terms/dvd-video.cfm
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15. October 2005 @ 19:34 |
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I have a PS2 and have recorded movies on DVD+Rs. I have had two types of discs; one, Verbatim DVD+R, will not play on the Playstation (I know why now), the other, Verbatim DVD+R Recordable for Video, does play? What is the difference between the two? They are both made by the same company except when says that it is special for movies. What is the difference?
What version is your PS2 console? According to my knowledge, any PS2 from version 4 - the current PS2 Slim can read/play both formats (DVD+R/DVD-R) easily.
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16. October 2005 @ 08:25 |
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I have a version 3 or 4. It's one of those; I know. I'm just asking what the difference is between DVD+R and DVD+R for Video.
Arbo sola, si nascatur prorsea, nascitur ingens.
Alte subvolat avis nimis nullalis subvolat suis si.
In principio erat verbum, et verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud deum. Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil, quod factum est. In ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hominum, et lux in tenbris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt... Erat lux vera, quae illuminat omnem hominem venientem in mundum. In mundo erat, et mundus per ipsum factus est, et mundus eum non cognovit. In propria venit, et sui eum non receperunt. Quotquot autem receperunt eum, dedit eis potestatem filios Dei fieri, his, qui crederunt in nomine ejus, qui non ex sanguinibus neque ex voluntate carnis neque ex voluntate viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt. Et verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis.
Stipendia enim peccati mors, donum autem Dei vita aeterna in Domino Nostro.
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16. October 2005 @ 08:46 |
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hi, in which case you still need to follow my first reply and paste the results here...
..just noticed you've started at least 4 threads with the same exact question, have had to request the duplicates be closed, it gets very confusing for us and for you and is against forum rules i'm afraid....
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16. October 2005 @ 10:06 |
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Thanks, I didn't know that was against forum rules.
Arbo sola, si nascatur prorsea, nascitur ingens.
Alte subvolat avis nimis nullalis subvolat suis si.
In principio erat verbum, et verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud deum. Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil, quod factum est. In ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hominum, et lux in tenbris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt... Erat lux vera, quae illuminat omnem hominem venientem in mundum. In mundo erat, et mundus per ipsum factus est, et mundus eum non cognovit. In propria venit, et sui eum non receperunt. Quotquot autem receperunt eum, dedit eis potestatem filios Dei fieri, his, qui crederunt in nomine ejus, qui non ex sanguinibus neque ex voluntate carnis neque ex voluntate viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt. Et verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis.
Stipendia enim peccati mors, donum autem Dei vita aeterna in Domino Nostro.
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16. October 2005 @ 10:17 |
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Oh, they've already been closed. I didn't read that part. How do I personally delete a thread? I didn't mean to go against any rules or anything.
Arbo sola, si nascatur prorsea, nascitur ingens.
Alte subvolat avis nimis nullalis subvolat suis si.
In principio erat verbum, et verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud deum. Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil, quod factum est. In ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hominum, et lux in tenbris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt... Erat lux vera, quae illuminat omnem hominem venientem in mundum. In mundo erat, et mundus per ipsum factus est, et mundus eum non cognovit. In propria venit, et sui eum non receperunt. Quotquot autem receperunt eum, dedit eis potestatem filios Dei fieri, his, qui crederunt in nomine ejus, qui non ex sanguinibus neque ex voluntate carnis neque ex voluntate viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt. Et verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis.
Stipendia enim peccati mors, donum autem Dei vita aeterna in Domino Nostro.
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16. October 2005 @ 10:30 |
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no worries, what i mean is i've requested a moderator close them, no biggie, it makes it easier on you and us if there's no duplicate threads to wade thru, that's all.
let's see exactly which Verbatim's those are, download dvd identifier (free) - http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_tools/dvd_id... and use it to 'identify' 1 of each of those 2 types of Verbatim disc then paste the results here
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Cibus
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16. October 2005 @ 10:53 |
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I've already burned the video discs and the data discs. Am I still able to identify them?
Arbo sola, si nascatur prorsea, nascitur ingens.
Alte subvolat avis nimis nullalis subvolat suis si.
In principio erat verbum, et verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud deum. Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil, quod factum est. In ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hominum, et lux in tenbris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt... Erat lux vera, quae illuminat omnem hominem venientem in mundum. In mundo erat, et mundus per ipsum factus est, et mundus eum non cognovit. In propria venit, et sui eum non receperunt. Quotquot autem receperunt eum, dedit eis potestatem filios Dei fieri, his, qui crederunt in nomine ejus, qui non ex sanguinibus neque ex voluntate carnis neque ex voluntate viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt. Et verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis.
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16. October 2005 @ 10:56 |
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yup, you sure are..
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16. October 2005 @ 11:14 |
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Then I'll make sure to do that tomorrow. I don't have any of the discs with me today.
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Alte subvolat avis nimis nullalis subvolat suis si.
In principio erat verbum, et verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud deum. Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil, quod factum est. In ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hominum, et lux in tenbris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt... Erat lux vera, quae illuminat omnem hominem venientem in mundum. In mundo erat, et mundus per ipsum factus est, et mundus eum non cognovit. In propria venit, et sui eum non receperunt. Quotquot autem receperunt eum, dedit eis potestatem filios Dei fieri, his, qui crederunt in nomine ejus, qui non ex sanguinibus neque ex voluntate carnis neque ex voluntate viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt. Et verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis.
Stipendia enim peccati mors, donum autem Dei vita aeterna in Domino Nostro.
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16. October 2005 @ 11:16 |
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no worries, we'll be here..
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16. October 2005 @ 12:03 |
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I have a version 3 or 4. It's one of those; I know. I'm just asking what the difference is between DVD+R and DVD+R for Video.
Cibus,
The reason I asked you is because any PS2 consoles from version 4 and up can easily play any DVD+R discs. However, if yours is a version 3, then you may need to book type or change the bitsetting into a DVD-ROM format, so it'll be easier for your PS2 to play.
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I have a PS2 and have recorded movies on DVD+Rs. I have had two types of discs; one, Verbatim DVD+R, will not play on the Playstation (I know why now), the other, Verbatim DVD+R Recordable for Video, does play? What is the difference between the two? They are both made by the same company except when says that it is special for movies. What is the difference?
I'm trying to understand your question here. So you mean what's the difference between Verbatim DVD+R and Verbatim DVD+RW (Recordable/Rewritable)?
DVD+R - you can only write/burn once
DVD+RW - you can rewrite over and over.
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16. October 2005 @ 12:22 |
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that's sort of what i'm getting at, i read Cibus's original post as saying he's got 2 types of Verbs hence why we need to see MID codes for one of each... it's hopefully just the PS2 pickyness, i was originally suspecting it was maybe old Verb discs (ie CMC)...
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16. October 2005 @ 13:02 |
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Both discs I have are once-only writable. I booktyped my discs and they played fine. My question deals with the two types of discs. If you go to any website that sells DVDs (like Best Buy) then you'll see the Verbatim for Video discs. They normally come in DVD cases and have the reel pictures printed on the discs. They are marketed as DVDs meant for movies. My other discs are simple data discs. The data discs are not CMAGs and they play fine in different DVD players (I know now why I had to booktype them to play in the PS2). I'll be able to identify the codes of the discs tomorrow.
Arbo sola, si nascatur prorsea, nascitur ingens.
Alte subvolat avis nimis nullalis subvolat suis si.
In principio erat verbum, et verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud deum. Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil, quod factum est. In ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hominum, et lux in tenbris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt... Erat lux vera, quae illuminat omnem hominem venientem in mundum. In mundo erat, et mundus per ipsum factus est, et mundus eum non cognovit. In propria venit, et sui eum non receperunt. Quotquot autem receperunt eum, dedit eis potestatem filios Dei fieri, his, qui crederunt in nomine ejus, qui non ex sanguinibus neque ex voluntate carnis neque ex voluntate viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt. Et verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis.
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16. October 2005 @ 14:01 |
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@ Cibus hi :)
i don't believe there is any difference ,it's the way the manufactuer markets there product ie.... dvd+r 4.7gb of data...or
dvd+r video 120 minutes. both ways of saying it, means the same thing
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17. October 2005 @ 06:56 |
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For the DVD+R Recordable for Video:
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MCC-002-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC]
Media Type ID : [002]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [Not Supported By Method 2]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x]
[Method 2 Might Not Always Detect All Speeds]
For the regular data disc:
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MCC-002-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC]
Media Type ID : [002]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [Not Supported By Method 2]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x]
[Method 2 Might Not Always Detect All Speeds]
They look the same to me. I am sure I tried both kinds. And to avoid any confusion, all of the video discs played in the PS2 fine and all of the data discs did not (this was eleviated when I booktyped, though). I recorded all with the say firmware and record settings.
Arbo sola, si nascatur prorsea, nascitur ingens.
Alte subvolat avis nimis nullalis subvolat suis si.
In principio erat verbum, et verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud deum. Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil, quod factum est. In ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hominum, et lux in tenbris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt... Erat lux vera, quae illuminat omnem hominem venientem in mundum. In mundo erat, et mundus per ipsum factus est, et mundus eum non cognovit. In propria venit, et sui eum non receperunt. Quotquot autem receperunt eum, dedit eis potestatem filios Dei fieri, his, qui crederunt in nomine ejus, qui non ex sanguinibus neque ex voluntate carnis neque ex voluntate viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt. Et verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis.
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17. October 2005 @ 06:58 |
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bah humbug!, they are indeed the same, no bad media codes sneaked in there so i'd put my money back on PS2 pickyness...
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17. October 2005 @ 07:23 |
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I'm just so confused here. I can understand that certain discs won't play in the PS2, but if both discs are the same, then why does only one play? It's just so absurd; it really is. My tiny brain is killing me!
Arbo sola, si nascatur prorsea, nascitur ingens.
Alte subvolat avis nimis nullalis subvolat suis si.
In principio erat verbum, et verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud deum. Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil, quod factum est. In ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hominum, et lux in tenbris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt... Erat lux vera, quae illuminat omnem hominem venientem in mundum. In mundo erat, et mundus per ipsum factus est, et mundus eum non cognovit. In propria venit, et sui eum non receperunt. Quotquot autem receperunt eum, dedit eis potestatem filios Dei fieri, his, qui crederunt in nomine ejus, qui non ex sanguinibus neque ex voluntate carnis neque ex voluntate viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt. Et verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis.
Stipendia enim peccati mors, donum autem Dei vita aeterna in Domino Nostro.
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17. October 2005 @ 07:33 |
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hi :)
yep thought that would be the outcome
not bad media either
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17. October 2005 @ 07:41 |
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Oh, well. Charitas, everybody, for the help. I guess this will end up as one of those unaswered questions. I still think there has to be some difference, though. It just doesn't make sense why the same discs will have different outcomes. My tiny brain persists to be killing me!
Arbo sola, si nascatur prorsea, nascitur ingens.
Alte subvolat avis nimis nullalis subvolat suis si.
In principio erat verbum, et verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud deum. Omnia per ipsum facta sunt, et sine ipso factum est nihil, quod factum est. In ipso vita erat, et vita erat lux hominum, et lux in tenbris lucet, et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt... Erat lux vera, quae illuminat omnem hominem venientem in mundum. In mundo erat, et mundus per ipsum factus est, et mundus eum non cognovit. In propria venit, et sui eum non receperunt. Quotquot autem receperunt eum, dedit eis potestatem filios Dei fieri, his, qui crederunt in nomine ejus, qui non ex sanguinibus neque ex voluntate carnis neque ex voluntate viri, sed ex Deo nati sunt. Et verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis.
Stipendia enim peccati mors, donum autem Dei vita aeterna in Domino Nostro.
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17. October 2005 @ 19:36 |
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did i hear someone call a brain doctor? hehe, despite the "size" of the brain, i may be able to help ya~ :)
anyways, this is a weird thread, i've noticed the MCC made discs, IDENTICAL MID coding, yet, you say one plays fine and the other doesn't...very peculiar indeed...
so the so called marketed as "video" MCCs play ok on the PS2? yet not a single one of the "regular/data" MCCs do?
i will have to agree with creaky in your PS2 pickyness...same media, there really isn't any difference between the two "types" you mentioned above...to MY knowledge, the MCC discs are made the EXACT SAME WAY regardless if they're inkjet printable, "data", "video", "regular"...blah blah blah...dunno what else to add to this one...:)
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18. October 2005 @ 01:26 |
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hi DOC :)
yep tis strange, but thats the nature of the beast.
still it proves i was right that its a marketing ploy, so that the ordinary punter would look at the title, and because he/she has a stand alone recorder, would buy the ones with video written on the packet
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18. October 2005 @ 04:39 |
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DVD+R is the normal +R media we use to burn movies and data
DVD+R Video is otherwise known as DVD+RV and are the dvd discs from handheld video recorders. they are meant only to record video and not data.
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