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h264 encode part 2 of troubles
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25. October 2005 @ 22:21 |
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hi there, im kinda stuck with what the whole yyyy thing means on virtualdub.
first of all what im doing is trying to convert h264 onto psp.
these are the steps im doing so far,
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/244015
i only go as far as completing up to step 5 but dont go onto step 6.
you'll have to view that link, now the movie i have is calld final fantasy advent children wich is h264, now which you can download from shinsen subs, just google that.
so as you already know, from reading the guide i made, i went up to step 5, now in FFAC there were 2 audio's ac3 and ogg, so with mkvmerge i just chose the ogg file, the video and subs. then merged it so it would only contain those elements.
i then converted the ogg audio into wav using ashampoo.
i then addd the wav to VD then as you know i can only choose direct stream copy, not that that is bad, direct stream is good, but when i go to save it as a avi in VD i get this message
can someone please lemme know what i am sopose to do about this problem, cos it looks like im stuck at this point.
and have no idea waht this whole yyyy business is about.
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25. October 2005 @ 23:46 |
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VirtualDubMod's mkv support is old and buggy. There is even a warning to that effect the first time you run it.
You could use mencoder to directly convert the mkv's video to PSP compatible raw .264 so low enough res and no HP features.
What exactly were you going to use VDubMod for though. I can't be bothered reading the guide since by the number of tools required it looks like it is going to be overly complicated.
If you want to Demux streams, forget about mkvmerge and just use mkvextract to extract them.
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26. October 2005 @ 00:55 |
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i don't think there's a vfw decoder for h264 yet.
and thats what your problem is.
what you need to do is frameserve it using directshow via avisynth.
mkvtoolnix-unicode-1.6.0
supports h264 now ?
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26. October 2005 @ 03:40 |
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I think most people are using FFDShow for h.264/AVC decoding and it works for both VfW and dshow.
mkv/mkvtoolnix has supported AVC natively for quite a while now. Even before that it of course was possible to store it using VfW compat mode.
Frameserving via dshowsource should work fine, but then you have RAW streams and since they are converting for PSP I don't think they actually want to do any encoding with VDub.
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26. October 2005 @ 06:02 |
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VirtualDubMod's mkv support is old and buggy. There is even a warning to that effect the first time you run it.
You could use mencoder to directly convert the mkv's video to PSP compatible raw .264 so low enough res and no HP features.
What exactly were you going to use VDubMod for though. I can't be bothered reading the guide since by the number of tools required it looks like it is going to be overly complicated.
If you want to Demux streams, forget about mkvmerge and just use mkvextract to extract them.
nuh you should read my guide it does work and it aint that complicated, it actually works, its called mkv to psp, just try to read it please, cos it will explain your question, but yuh i was using VirtualDub, so i could add my wav audio (which i converted from ogg to wav using ashampoo) and then save as AVI.
read my guide ok cos it will explain why i was doing the steps in VD and so forth.
but yuh ill try mkvextract and see what happens there.
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26. October 2005 @ 08:15 |
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Convert to AVI? I thought that PSP's played modified mp4 files? If the mkv contains native AVC and you wanted an AVI, then you could Demux the raw 264 stream and then use AVC2AVI. AVC in AVI is not a good idea though if you ask me. mp4 or mkv are much better.
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26. October 2005 @ 08:35 |
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ahh, i was thinking mkvextract.
i thought FFDShow vfw is still b0rk ?
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26. October 2005 @ 09:52 |
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i don't think there's a vfw decoder for h264 yet.
and thats what your problem is.
what you need to do is frameserve it using directshow via avisynth.
mkvtoolnix-unicode-1.6.0
supports h264 now ?
hi there, um i don i have the right avisynth or not, is there an actual gui where i can choose frameserve from or what. can you please tell me how to frameserve is avisynth, and also where to get avisynth from please. also what will frameserving do. ??
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26. October 2005 @ 10:11 |
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Convert to AVI? I thought that PSP's played modified mp4 files? If the mkv contains native AVC and you wanted an AVI, then you could Demux the raw 264 stream and then use AVC2AVI. AVC in AVI is not a good idea though if you ask me. mp4 or mkv are much better.
nuh i even tried that hey, i plomped the final fantasy advent children onto psp and named it that special name which you have to name them, and nope; it din even show up in my video section of psp. also when i hover my mouse over the file it says file type matroska.
also i forgot to mention, soz if i alredy hvae, but yuh the file contained 2 audio, a AC3 and a ogg, so as i said, i now used mkvextract gui 1.6 and selected the video which has the fields(V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC) and the jpn ogg audio file then hit the button start demuxing.
so what am i sopose to do with this file now, i even tried opening it up in VD and i just get the same crap which is in my 1st message posted up the very top here. so i need some points in the right direction fellas, id much appreicate this.
b4 i go, you guys should mebbe actually try dl final fantasy advent children from http://shinsen.b33r.net/ grab the h264 one ant mebbe try helping me with the file, and if we can all work together on the same file, im sure we'll all pull off this h264 to psp conversion.
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26. October 2005 @ 20:58 |
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ffdshow VfW works ok. Fact is though that AVC via VfW doesn't really work due to the serious limitations of VfW. VfW expects one frame in, one frame out, which was fine back when it was created, but AVC doesn't always work that way.
Yep, mkvextract supports extracting native AVC streams and has for a while now.
AVISynth is a scripting language, there isn't any GUI, although there are GUI's for editing/creating AVISynth scripts.
I never said that just renaming the mkv would work, even extracting and reusing the AVC stream probably wouldn't since it might not have the correct frame rate, resolution, etc. for the PSP, also the PSP doesn't support HP features.
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC means that the video is native AVC as I thought. Once extracted you will get a raw AVC stream (.264) which of course VirtualDub can't recognise. As I said if you want an AVI, you can use avc2avi to convert. If you just want to re-encode though then I would do it straight from the mkv. No point going to the trouble of creating an AVI, just to re-encode it.
If I had a PSP, I would have a go, but I don't. What are the exact specs that you are wanting to convert to? MP AVC video? What res? framerate? Audio is mp3 or ATRAC?
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26. October 2005 @ 22:56 |
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ffdshow VfW works ok. Fact is though that AVC via VfW doesn't really work due to the serious limitations of VfW. VfW expects one frame in, one frame out, which was fine back when it was created, but AVC doesn't always work that way.
Yep, mkvextract supports extracting native AVC streams and has for a while now.
AVISynth is a scripting language, there isn't any GUI, although there are GUI's for editing/creating AVISynth scripts.
I never said that just renaming the mkv would work, even extracting and reusing the AVC stream probably wouldn't since it might not have the correct frame rate, resolution, etc. for the PSP, also the PSP doesn't support HP features.
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC means that the video is native AVC as I thought. Once extracted you will get a raw AVC stream (.264) which of course VirtualDub can't recognise. As I said if you want an AVI, you can use avc2avi to convert. If you just want to re-encode though then I would do it straight from the mkv. No point going to the trouble of creating an AVI, just to re-encode it.
If I had a PSP, I would have a go, but I don't. What are the exact specs that you are wanting to convert to? MP AVC video? What res? framerate? Audio is mp3 or ATRAC?
hi there, i have as i said dl mkvtoolnix 1.6, and it din come with a new mkv extract gui, just 1.6 mkvmerge so ive only got some older version of mkvextract which is 1.5.5, so i extracted the audio and video from the h264 of FFAC, and it output the files, but the video file i dont think was raw AVC stream (.264) when i clicked on the extracted video it just said file type:video.
also you mentioned something about avc2avi where can i dl that from, also the reason i want to convert it to AVI is cos in avi2dvd, even though it supports mkv ogm and AVI, the reason i want the mkv in AVI is cos 4 sum weird reason every time i go to encode a mkv to SVCD in avi2dvd it says the interace is not supoorted, but if its in AVI it gets converted to SVCD fine and i get the subs audio and video coming out fine, then i convert the SVCD which is mpeg, into mp4 using pspvideo express; so thats why i need it in AVI format. please get back to me on where i can dl avc2avi from please.
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27. October 2005 @ 00:09 |
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i heard someone here mention something about mencoder, can someone tell me a lil about that please and where i can dl it from, by the way, i already have video lan 0.82 installed and CCCP installed.
so should i need mencoder or not.
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27. October 2005 @ 03:11 |
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So mkv-->avi-->SVCD-->mp4??? Not how I would do it. mkv-->mp4 makes more sense.
mencoder is a commandline encoder that comes with mplayer.
You can find my builds for various CPU's here: http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/xvid/
It accepts mkv's as input, can decode AVC, vorbis, etc.. You can output a raw AVC stream which can then be muxed to mp4 using mp4box/yamb. As I understand it though the PSP requires a somewhat non standard mp4.
Guess it would in theory be possible to use the libavformat output to go directly to mp4, but last time I checked libavformat didn't do spec compliant mp4 and I don't think it even supported AVC.
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So mkv-->avi-->SVCD-->mp4??? Not how I would do it. mkv-->mp4 makes more sense.
mencoder is a commandline encoder that comes with mplayer.
You can find my builds for various CPU's here: http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/xvid/
It accepts mkv's as input, can decode AVC, vorbis, etc.. You can output a raw AVC stream which can then be muxed to mp4 using mp4box/yamb. As I understand it though the PSP requires a somewhat non standard mp4.
Guess it would in theory be possible to use the libavformat output to go directly to mp4, but last time I checked libavformat didn't do spec compliant mp4 and I don't think it even supported AVC.
hi there i dl the combined comunity codec pack from here http://www.kickassanime.org/wiki/index.php?title=CCCP#Latest_CCCP...
and with it contains FFDShow mplayer classic, and other things, now you mentioned something about mencoder is a commandline encoder that comes with mplayer. does it come with mplayer regarless of where you dl it from, or does it only come with cccp or does it only come with mplayer if i dl from the link you provided. if it comes with mplayer regarless of whether you dl just the player, or in a codec pack, how do i access the command line, and by accessing the command line, what can i do with it.
also i went to http://celticdruid.no-ip.com/xvid/ and i clicked on mplayer/mencoder, then it brought me to http://www.aziendeassociate.it/cd.asp?dir=/mplayer then i clicked and dl the file called mplayer2005.10.09.P4.7z i dl that one cos i have a pentium 4 and i assume the p4 in mplayer2005.10.09.P4.7z means that, please tell me if this is correct; any way i dl it, and i got a 7Z file ?_? waht am i sopose to do with this file, oh btw i also dl from the link you gave me avc2avi.revision267.7z which is also a 7Z file, where do i place this file.
last thing i got was X264VFW.exe which i installed.
ok from the two 7Z files i said, can you please tell me waht to do with them both please.
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27. October 2005 @ 07:29 |
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ok ill try those links and see how it goes
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27. October 2005 @ 17:03 |
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hmm, not much h264 that i need to Demux.... ;)
tried it, works.
7z is 7zip. zip, but not win.
http://www.7-zip.org/
so there's 2 people here that don't have a psp.
so i'm not sure which profile psp will support, until i read something about it.
look for GUIs here.
http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=77
mplayer homepage
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html
ok there, im checking out the links now, but i do i need to go to the mplayer homepage, cos when i downloaded the cccp pack, it came with Media Player Classic, can you lemme know if i need to worry about going to the mplayer homepage, cos if i already have it then thers no need right, ?? can you just clear me up on this matter please.
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27. October 2005 @ 20:02 |
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Media Player Classic is a great piece of software, it however has nothing to do with mplayer/mencoder although they do both use some common libs (libmaad, libfaad2, etc.)
Only reason I can think why you would want to go to the mplayer site is to look at the documentation.
I doubt that any codec packs include mplayer or mencoder.
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Media Player Classic is a great piece of software, it however has nothing to do with mplayer/mencoder although they do both use some common libs (libmaad, libfaad2, etc.)
Only reason I can think why you would want to go to the mplayer site is to look at the documentation.
I doubt that any codec packs include mplayer or mencoder.
hi there um im kinda new to this whole, codecs and all, im trying my best to try and understand it, but what exactly do you mean by the "Only reason I can think why you would want to go to the mplayer site is to look at the documentation."
do you mean go to http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html if so what part of that site should i be reading, also i went to your site and i dl avc2avi_rev267_mmx and i extracted it and i got a lil white box with a blue bar up the top, i double click it and then this black cmd box appears and disappears right away, what am i soposed to do with this extracted file callde avi2avc, i also dl mplayer2005.10.09.P4 and extracted it and get several things from it, folders called codecs (with nothing in the folder and a folder called mplayer which contains files and another folder inside called font which contains nothing in it); i also got 2 .exe's one called mplayer which actually has a image on it, but when i double click it, some small black cmd screen pops up and disappears right away, what kind of weird .exe is this ?__? i also get another .exe called mencoder but it has no image, just a white box with a blue bar up top, and when i double click it the same thing happens, a cmd screen appears then diappears straight away, can you please tell me wahts going on here and waht i'm sopose to be doing with these files please, cos im kinda lost.
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28. October 2005 @ 09:30 |
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They are all command line apps. I meant that you might want to read the documentation, get an idea of the options/commands available.
I included the empty directories to show where you can put codecs, fonts, etc. No point including them because not everyone wants them and you can download them seperatly.
If you aren't used to/don't like commandline apps then you might want to look for a GUI. mplayer though you can pretty much drop a media file onto the EXE and it should just play.
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28. October 2005 @ 15:01 |
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yes go read the documentation
//off topic
http://psp-vault.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=articl...
h264 hardware player, i want.
//back on topic
psp encoding.
if you look hard enough (really it wasn't that hard)
http://psp-vault.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=articl...
and if you look at the guide seection
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/encode_files_for_psp_nero...
ok, here is what i found out.
nero recode already set up a profile for psp. but its not avc, i think. since psp supports avc, i think you're aiming for that. so we can scrap nero's profile.
nero recode does sees matroska. but attempts to load mkv+h264+aac crashes it.
and what size are aiming for ?
particularly how big of a memory stick you got.
ssh ffviiac is 720x400, ac3.
according to the first post of the ps2dev forum i posted, psp would might be able to play it back. its mod 16.
you can cut it up using mkvtoolnix (mkvmerge gui), select size to split.
psp supports mkv ? if not remux it to mp4
use mp4box.
and its gui http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=93927
as for the audio, psp support ac3 ? but its surround, you might want to convert and downmix with aac. i use foobar2000, or you might want to try besweet too.
if i remember correctly shs adds in the stereo audio, but not sure what format. if you can use it, then do so.
for video reencoding.
if you want to use nero recode. than i think you need to use avisynth.
install it. since 2.5.6 had a recall, just use 2.5.5 install it.
then open up notepad and type
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lanczosresize(720,400)
exchange (720,400) with the resolution size you want. i deally psp's screen res, or 320x176. that is
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lanczosresize(320,176)
if you still can't figure it out.
not sure if cccp got matroska splitter, get Haali's if it doesn't.
load the .avs file into recode. just use standard avc profile or mobile. use 2 pass. encode.
if you want to use x264. get x264 vfw. load the .avs into virtualdub encode. remux to mp4.
or try doom9's MeGUI
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=96032
if you buy me a psp. i'll encode my ffviiac R2 dvd just for you.
i'm sure celtic_d would want too ;)
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woahhhhhhhhh, thanks for all the links guys, and yuh i prob will be ages since i reply again, cos ill be reading all those links you gave me and all. btw i have a 1 gig mem stick 4 my psp, and with cccp, how can i tell if it has a matroska splitter, and also when i open up my FFAC in Media Player Classic after installing cccp i get 2 icons appearing in my start panel bar, they are FFDShow video encoder and haali media splitter so does this indicate that there is a matroska splitter there or what.
also, what i was kinda thinking was, if you could make an mp4 out of FFAC.h264 which you can get from http://shinsen.b33r.net/ and then maybe you could send it to me at my e-mail perhaps maybe which is laguna205@gmail.com, i dunno just an idea. lol also you mentioned be-sweet, um yuh back on that note, thats why i wanted my movie to be in AVI format, cos when you run avi2dvd, it does all that movie and sound encoding, thats why im kinda wondering why you keep on telling me to find all these diff sound encoders, ?? be sweet comes with avi2dvd, so this way if i could get this h264 into AVI, i could load it up in avi2dvd and then sit back and watch be sweet and and the other encoders do there work.
also you mentioned waht size i want, now heres the strange thing, ffac.h264 which i dl from http://shinsen.b33r.net/ comes in 2 files, so is there also a way to convert this to psp and join the two files together as one movie file, and file size, well i sopose if i can get the two media files joined together and stuck on my 1 gig mem stick, i would say i would want a size as low as possible but not that low that the audio or video is bad, just low enough so the video and audio is still good enough to watch on psp.
i also heard you mention something about resizing the video resolution, some how i dont think i need to worry about that, cos in the past when i use avi2dvd, when i watch it on my psp, the size is to big for the psp, but that can be overcome, by just selecting video size on the psp from hitting the triangle buton, theres an option where you can choose fit to screen, normal size and other video size options, thus i dont think i really need to bothr with resizing the video resolutuon hey.
btw i'm pretty sure the psp screen size is 320x240.
oh i dl that prog called yamb 1.3.1 and ran it...pressed the add button and went to where my FFAC.h264 is but the file didn't display, i even chose every drop down list option and it still din display, whats up with this.
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28. October 2005 @ 23:57 |
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hey, could you Demux the .ssa subs and zip it for me.
i suggest you reencode. take a look at that little guide i posted.
use 320x176.
not sure if psp supports softsub. if not hardencode it.
textsub("C:\where.ssa")
you need vsfilter plugin
ok. you got the vorbis stereo, not sure if psp handles it. so reencode to AAC. if psp handles supports mp3, you can use that too.
get oggdrop
http://www.rarewares.org/ogg.html
drag and drop to decode to wav. then reencode to aac/mp3 using your favourite encoder.
psp supports AVI ?
well, wanna me to do it ? i'll think about it.
at least when i get my HDD cleared.
e-mail ? no. IRC maybe. torrent most propably.
sending me that subs would help, i only got jasconius's
rapidshare it. putfile/ wahtever. i don't use email
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hey, could you Demux the .ssa subs and zip it for me.
i suggest you reencode. take a look at that little guide i posted.
use 320x176.
not sure if psp supports softsub. if not hardencode it.
textsub("C:\where.ssa")
you need vsfilter plugin
ok. you got the vorbis stereo, not sure if psp handles it. so reencode to AAC. if psp handles supports mp3, you can use that too.
get oggdrop
http://www.rarewares.org/ogg.html
drag and drop to decode to wav. then reencode to aac/mp3 using your favourite encoder.
psp supports AVI ?
well, wanna me to do it ? i'll think about it.
at least when i get my HDD cleared.
e-mail ? no. IRC maybe. torrent most propably.
sending me that subs would help, i only got jasconius's
rapidshare it. putfile/ wahtever. i don't use email
hi there sorry for taking so long to reply and all, i been away these few weeks, anyway i went to the link you told me http://www.rarewares.org/ogg.html adn dl oggdropXPd V.1.8.6 using libVorbis v1.1.1 i then converted my 2 .ogg audio files which i extracted from the two split video files (of Final Fantasy Advent Children) and used oggdropXPd V.1.8.6 to convert the 2 .oggs into wav.
now you said to me to then convert the wavs into aac using your fav audio encoder, well, i don have one, cos i norm just use avi2dvd which does all that work, but i made the effort anyway to google around and find a prog called AC3, AAC, OAG and OGG Machine pack which i found at http://www.free-codecs.com/download/AC3_AAC_OAG_OGG_Machine.htm and it suprised me cos it's by you guys at doom9.org, so i was like woah, anyway i unzipped the contents of the rar and went to the folder called AacMachinev0.52 and opened up AacMachine and it came to a screen like this
from here as you can see i have already added the locations of the besweet and besplit, but then when i click the button give me AAC, is starts up and all, and stops after the first encoding stage, and justs halts at a black cmd screen, im thinking it can't continue cos i need to give the location of the AacEnc.exe but i haven't any idea about that, do you guys know where i can dl that from ?? i also went to http://neroplugins.afterdawn.com/ and dl and installed the very first aac/mp4 which appears on that link.
also dude you wanted me to give you the subs, yuh well when i extracted them there not .ssa mine are .ass oh and psp do't support avi i think your think of avc, it supports mpeg 4 which i've heard and avc which i haven't heard of.
ok so once i eventually get the aac sound file what do i do with it then.
ok if you want the torrent 4 FFAC.h264 dl it from http://shinsen.b33r.net/
ok tell me what to do to send you those subs ok. and i hope to hear back from you soon on what to do with this aacmachine prog.
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no favourite encoder huh.
try headac3he.
its foolproof ;)
its faac though
http://www.needfulthings.host.sk/tools/item.php?id=9
as in for nero's.
just load the wav in Nero wav editor and save as.
there's other plugin for other encoder taht will point to Nero dlls. but look for it yourself.
i know psp supports avc, not sure if it supports AVI container.
i have Region 2 DVD, so i don't want to d/l
i'm sorry if i'm sending on a wild goose chase, really i don't know what i'm talking about ;)
if anybody knows this.
for stereo audio.
would it be better to downmix from the 5.1 AC3 or just use the readily supplied stereo AC3 and compressing it a little bit more ?
oh i think i should have pointed headac3he sooner.
for you i think its better to downmix from the 1:1 copy of the 5.1 audio. cause the vorbis is comppressed so you will get a more superior audio. headac3he will downmix it for you.
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