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niceum
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30. October 2005 @ 22:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Again - I have never had a problem burning to my Verbatim DVD+RWs.
The DVD player has never f-ed up to those. It's just EVERYTHING else I burn.
OH -- and I burn at whatever it's at...no less than 4 -- that was the first No. that popped in my head. I could be at 8x.

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30. October 2005 @ 22:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
your FIRMWARE is wayyyyyyyyyyy outta date...go here for the newest one:

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1597

1.1a, dl and then flash...GOOD chance everything will be just fine after this is completed properly..i have a feeling it's THE FIRMWARE issue that is holding you back right now and giving your troubles...

docTY~

Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
niceum
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30. October 2005 @ 22:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
HUH?
I never heard of this...
I opened the link -- just hit the "1.1" by the "RED NEW" ???

I don't want to f- up my system -- like the page says:
"These pages are only for advanced users. Bad flashing could destroy your drive definitively. Read carefully the installation notes of your firmware before you upgrade. The Firmware Page and the drive manufacturer can't be responsable on REMEMBER: This is at your own risk!!!!"

I'm out of my league now. What do I download?

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30. October 2005 @ 22:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@niceum - you're in good hands there..

..just don't reset pc when you start the firmware update, or power off or mess with the pc, and provided you don't have a powercut, the firmware update is quick and painless..



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30. October 2005 @ 22:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes, u just click on the "1.1a" next to "red new" as you put it...download the file onto your computer and then upgrade the firmware...

one IMPORTANT NOTE: after you download and run the program, Sony's flasher is very simple and straight forward, so, just follow the prompts it gives you...just MAKE SURE YOU DO NOT POWER DOWN YOUR COMPUTER DURING THE FLASHING PROCESS, this is what that "warning" was to kinda "scare" you about...

also, make sure there are NO DISCS inside your burner when you update the firmware...other than that...just download...run the program (it's an .exe file) the little screen will come up...it will tell you the current firmware and then what it will flash to...just make sure you don't lose power during the flashing process...and there is nothing in your drive (meaning media)...and it will "process"...and after a few minutes...it will ask you to reboot your computer after it's "completed" or "flash successful", then you reboot and you are done~ it's pretty simple...just make sure you follow the 2 things i stated before doing this...

1. do not cut off power during flash
2. do not have media inside drive during flash


that's it~ if you follow the instructions EXPLICITY, you will NOT f' up ur computer...Sony's own flashing utility is very basic, but it does the job in a few minutes time...

good luck

docTY~

Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
niceum
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30. October 2005 @ 22:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
YEah - I clicked on the 1.1 NEW ...
downloaded and hit the OK..
1/2 second later it did what it did (I GUESS ... 1/2 second, did it do what it did? I don't know).
You said minutes -- it took 1/2 second and didn't ask to reboot.

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30. October 2005 @ 22:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oops i forgot to mention to not leave a disc in the drive. actually the other day i had an oops and forgot to take a disc out the drive while updating firmware and luckily it didn't break. but hey, i got lucky that time :)



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30. October 2005 @ 22:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
uhm..."did what it did" ?????????

the flashing process DOES take more than a 1/2 second... :)

you obviously downloaded correctly, now you need to run the ".exe" file on the flash program~ :) it takes a few min. to actually "flash" your drive...so, you're 1/2 way there~ :)

please re-read the steps i outlined just above this last post of yours...i can't explain it any more clearly than that...

docTY~



Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
niceum
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30. October 2005 @ 22:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'll break down what I did.
-Downloaded FW510a11a.exe
-opened it
-a little box saying DRU-510A Firmware UPdater on top
INSTALL DIRECTOY _______ REFERENCES(it was defaulted at mydoc/media (where I downloaded the thing)
I hit OK and that was it 1/2 second then NOTHING.
niceum
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30. October 2005 @ 22:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do I need to change the "references" directory to it's own folder?
In this box - there is a check box for 2 things
Start menu
Set Class
But no option to check them

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30. October 2005 @ 22:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
did it prompt you to select WHICH drive you would like to update? your SOny dru-510a SHOULD be selected as THE drive to update...hmmm...
niceum
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30. October 2005 @ 22:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OH -- so REFERENCES -- I should click it to my DVD drive D:
RIGHT?
niceum
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30. October 2005 @ 22:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
NOpe -- error.
I getting there .. hold up.
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30. October 2005 @ 22:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok, i just downloaded YOUR firmware update package so i can see for myself what is going on...hehe...yes, create a new folder for the "install directory" when prompted...
niceum
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30. October 2005 @ 22:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Done -- it worked ...
I'll try burning day after tom -- again and see if it works smoothly tomorrow.
Thanks for you help -- I'm going to bed.
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30. October 2005 @ 22:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you are very welcome niceum~ :)

glad it finally went through, i was willing to sit here and walk you through step by step if need be, but i'm GLAD it worked and you will know for sure tomorrow~ :)

good luck and get sum rest, you deserve it~

docTY~

Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
niceum
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31. October 2005 @ 19:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I believe it worked!
I burned Day After and half listened to it and didn't notice any skips.
That must have been it, huh? What exactly did I do -- just, update my DVD's drivers (so to speak)?
As for getting rest -- I work at 2 p.m. - get up at 11 a.m. every day.
No need for going to be early -- I gotta play some late-night Battle Field 2, ya know?
Thanks again for helping me out - hopefully you're a night owl as well.
Do you use Decrpyt or Shrink to burn? Any idea on whether I'm doing it the way "normal" way?
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1. November 2005 @ 00:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"normal" is in the eyes of the beholder~ :)

as long as the firmware is up to date, you should be ok until the drive actually "dies" on you, which SHOULD be thousands of burns later when you've actually used it so much that it just can't burn properly any longer :) at that time, cleaning the lens might help, but, hardware only last for so long...ALL drives will need replacing sooner or later, nothing lasts forever~

but, "firmware" is very important to ensure good quality burns, Sony comes out with new ones from time to time, you should check periodically when you have time, every few months or so...i check every single day, as i use that firmware site so much to help others, to check MY OWN firmware is only a click away~ i do it out of habit :)

anyways, per your question, Shrink DOES NOT ACTUALLY BURN the dvd...it does the "shrinking" and "encoding", but it utilizes Nero or DVD Decrypter to actually BURN the dvd...that is really up to you and how you have YOUR DVD Shrink setup to automatically use Nero or DECRYPTER to burn after the encoding portion is finished :) i prefer Nero, but, when i make backups of my LONGER movies and do a FULL BACKUP onto DVD+R DL media, i use decrypter from start to finish~ :) ISO read---> ISO WRITE~ done flawlessly on dvd+dl media~

good luck and glad to see things are working out well for you...

docTY~



Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
djtroy34
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3. November 2005 @ 07:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm still so confused about how you can tell if your getting good dvd media without opening them. Nobody really answered it. I have a 100 pk. of RiData DVD+R 4x and can't find anywhere on the sealed package with any media codes. Also I can see some code written on the top disc but it has nothing that comes close to what I have seen people say what the codes look like. Isn't it too late to find out what media you have with those identifer programs after you have already opened the package and spent your cash?
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3. November 2005 @ 07:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@djtroy34 - you're right, media is a minefield. here's one way i know what to buy. i only buy from one particular site now and here's one of their dvd media pages - http://www.blankdiscshop.co.uk/acatalog/dvd-rnoprint.html

snippet from there -
Quote:
{DV 3309} Verbatim (Taiyo Yuden) 8x DVD-R in Spindle Tubs of 25
Verbatim have entrusted the manufacture of the disc to the world renowned Taiyo Yuden factory.

ADVDInfo: TYG02

SVP Price: £6.49 / Euro 9.55 inc VAT.
- in this case the discs are advertised by the site as using TYG02 media ID codes (MID codes), and in this site's case they are genuine TYG02 discs. (i only say that as TYG02 is one of the most FAKED media ID codes. but i read up on media as much as i can, stick to reputable media/reputable sellers and that's how i get around the confusion of media..



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3. November 2005 @ 07:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
djtroy34
use this tool to see who made the disks,if made by (cmc mag),then they are at the very bottom of the pile.

DVD Identifier 4.2.0
Author: Kris Schoofs
Date: 2005-10-24
Size: 1 Mb
License: Freeware
Requires: Win All
Downloaded: 13110 Times

DVD Identifier retrieves and interprets the pre-recorded information that is present on all DVD+R/+RW, DVD-R/-RW and DVD-RAM media. This information contains a variety of parameters such as disc manufacturing information and supported write speeds. Even though this information is usually printed on the packaging, the brand name may differ from the actual manufacturer or sometimes there might not even be any packaging information at all.

To Summarize : 'DVD Identifier' offers a reliable method of accurately identifying the disc's REAL manufacturer.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4413.html
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3. November 2005 @ 07:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
....and provided you can trust the discs are genuine from looking at the discs or the packaging, you can follow ireland's info re identifying the media id codes...

..unfortunately media id codes are easily faked though...



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