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31. October 2005 @ 17:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have read a lot of good things about the Taiyo Yuden DVDs.

I started to order some of these DVD-Rs -- and ran across a new problem.

There are quite a few varieties available. I am looking for the best DVD to use for DVD Players (after burning).

I was planning on using DVD-Rs -- is that a good choice -- does it make any difference, whether it is +R or -R.

And if -R, which variety/model/package would be the best to choose, and why would that one be a good choice.

Thanks.

Ron in Round Rock
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31. October 2005 @ 18:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The thing is is that DVD+R can bootype to DVD ROM, which is teh universal booktype and can be read in all players, some of the older players can't play +/-. But not all burners can booktype. And is your burner compattible w/ both types? I would go w/ DVD-R 4x, but I don't really use DVD-R cause you know the booktype thing. They don't make DVD+R 4x so you have to buy DVD+R 8x.
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31. October 2005 @ 18:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah .. the 4x DVD-R are the best price because they're becomming obselete .. I also use the +R because I booktype which has given me 100% compatibility but, on occasion, I do burn a -R ... but in that case, I use Verbatims.

If your drive doesn't booktype or if you just want a killer deal on Taiyo Yuden discs ..
200 for $59 with free shipping
http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-4x-dvd-r-media-silver-...
100 for $26.99 ~ you pay shipping
http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-4x-dvd-r-media-silver-...

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31. October 2005 @ 19:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ALL genuine TYs are of the same high quality, it really doesn't matter which ones you get, you should get the ones that suit YOUR needs best...whether that means white inkjet printable, silver shiny, silver inkjet printables, "brand name" labelled (found locally under Fuji/Sony 8x DVD+R MADE IN JAPAN)...etc...

rated speed really makes NO difference as most will suggest on here that you keep your burns @ 4x...so, there is really NO need to purchase the 16x rated ones as they are USUALLY higher priced...

locally, the 8x rated media under the various name brands are in abundance...so, it's much easier to find Taiyo Yudens locally in the 8x speed if you KNOW ahead of time what to look for...

the debate between DVD-R and DVD+R is also another "touchy" subject as IF your burner has the ability to "booktype", meaning change the DVD+R format into the universally highly compatible format of dvd-rom, then, the DVD+R is a "better buy" in MY opinion~ but this is a question IF your burner is capable of bitsetting or not~ :) otherwise, i would suggest getting the DVD-R format, as THEY are the most compatible without the "booktype" in the equation :)

good luck

docTY~



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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
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1. November 2005 @ 04:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What about this booktyping business.

Is this a software thing you can do if the drive supports it. Is it done when you are burning your DVD.

Do you need special software, or can it be done with Nero, for instance.

And how do you know if your drive can booktype -- is there anything you can test or look at -- or is there a list of drives somewhere -- or do I have to ask the couputer (GATEWAY) or drive (LITE-ON) manufacturer.

Ron in Round Rock
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1. November 2005 @ 04:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LiteOn drives support booktyping ... You need to download the booktyping utility to enable it

Got the goods here:  http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_downloads/e_utility.asp

Happy burning to you, happy burning to you. Happy buuurrrrrnnnnnning toooooo youuuuuuu ... happy burning to you!
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2. November 2005 @ 00:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Which T-Y DVD-R should I buy -- and why
I would go with the DVD+R. Why..??? Because you can book type them into DVD-ROM and that is = play in all dvd players.

Yeah... really Taiyo Yuden ROCK..!!

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2. November 2005 @ 02:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
alcohol- Thanks for the support -- yes, I have been thinking that this was the way to go --

particularly after catfreak (thanks a lot catfreak) referenced me to the little Utility program at LITE-ON to booktype discs on my LITE-ON drive.

The only problem is, it doesn't seem to work.

When I load the Booktype Utility (LiteON Bit Setting Utility v1.3.5), it looks good -- but when I insert a blank DVD+R into the drive and click on Query, it comes back with the following:

"0-0-0-0 D:LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-832S VTS3"
"Current Disc Type: DVD+R"
"Current Disc Booktype: UNKNOWN"
"Change Booktype to: NORMAL"
"Write Now! Change Query"
with a "F/W not support!" down in very bottom left hand corner (status line) of the little Utility screen.

The italized words of NORMAL, Write Now and Change are "greyed" out and not selectable. So what does that mean -- that my particular drive does not support Booktyping -- or a problem with the Memorex (yeah, I know, sorry) meadia -- or is something else going on here.

The little 5 page Utility documentation from LITE-ON is pretty good, but the screen above does not match what they show in their documentation.

Any ideas?

Ron in Round Rock
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2. November 2005 @ 08:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi there,
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Yeah .. the 4x DVD-R are the best price because they're becomming obselete
Well beleive it or not, I still buy Taiyo Yuden DVD-R 4x
And yes, I burn them at 2x.

So why would I pay more for 16x when I'm only gonna burn at 2x or 4x when I feel like it :)

Hey companies, keep all those TYG01 (DVD-R 4x) for me !

P.S: I have a NEC-3450a (Dell OEM) and an old LG-4040B
They both DO NOT booktype so I use DVD-R !

I read the reviews on the new LG-4167, looks nice !
I would buy an on other LG, or an other NEC !

I have been very happy with both drives up to now.

Father in law has the new NEC-3520a, Firmware v3.06
He also uses DVD-R, not sure if it bookmarks that one :)

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2. November 2005 @ 09:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i got a 4167 - very nice indeed, and a 4163 - very nice too (was sent the 4163 by mistake but had only seen good comments about it so kept it)



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3. November 2005 @ 02:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does anyone have very much experience with the LITE-ON Booktype Utility available and furnished by LITE-ON at the LITE-ON web site.

If so, would you look at my previous note, up about 3 notes in this thread, and tell me what the Booktype Utility is trying to tell me.

Is it trying to say that my particular drive does not support Booktyping, since it does not seem to offer the option for Booktyping (i.e. this option grayed out).


Ron in Round Rock
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3. November 2005 @ 04:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@rnsmithad - re TY. here in UK we have genuine TY and we also have Verbatim TY - very nice indeed - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/1/229523

As to the booktyping (or lack thereof) - i'd had loadsa trouble with this on my two 1693S's. i lost the battle with mine ie i cheated and bought LG drives and solved the problem that way. Have a look here -
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2/250873#1406413 - none of this helped me but you may find the solution in that link...



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3. November 2005 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You have to use the Lite-On booktyping utility (thx again mort81) via dl from there site. You just set the utility and it will booktype all disc from here on out ,unless you change it.
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3. November 2005 @ 14:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
GlueEater- If you have had experience with this program, please see my post, up about 6 posts from here.

The little Utility runs, but it doesn't appear to be doing anything. The screen I get doesn't match the manual supplied at the Lite-ON site and I don't seem to have any options available to click on when I run the program (everything is "grayed" out except for the Query button).


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3. November 2005 @ 21:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@rnsmithad - i provided a link - did it not help ?



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4. November 2005 @ 03:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
creaky-

Thanks a lot for that link -- it was pretty close to what I needed, I think, but I got nervous in dealing with the firmware -- wasn't even sure which version I had.

What I did was send a note to LITE-ON about the problem -- and I got a very nice response back saying that the "VTS3" firmware (identified by their Booktype utility) was the problem that their Booktype utility would not work, and suggested I contact the PC manufacturer (Gateway).

I just sent a note to Gateway (with LITE-ON's response), asking them about the VTS3 firmware, and asking if I could replace it with firmware from LITE-ON. I can do that, can't I -- but on the other hand, I doubt if my PC will allow me to do that, and still run.

Any thoughts or help you can provide me here would be appreciated. Thanks.

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4. November 2005 @ 03:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cool, though i don't often come across 832S drives, however my Sony DRU-700A was a rebadged 832S



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hello guys............
been a while, glad to be back.........
i'm down here on the Mississippi Gulf Coast
where Katrina, showed her a**, i made it well compared to my neighbors.............but any way...............


don't mean to jump in like this, but i use TY"S have
bought some Veratim's to give them a try................

here is the imformation dvd idenifier showed
Blank Verbatiam Imformation

Unique Disc Identifier: { DVD-R:MCC 02RG20}
Disc & Book Type: {DVD-R}
Manufacturer Name: {Mitsubishi Chemical Corp}
Manufacture ID: {MCC 02RG20}
Blank Disc Capacity: { 2,298,496 Sectors=4.71GB GiB}

are these real???

thanks again................




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4. November 2005 @ 18:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@freedom

if those are the 8x Verbatim DVD-R, then yes, those are real...do you have a hub reading on those? (just outside the hub)...on my 8x Verbatim DVD+R, mine start with "ZD1321-DVR-X47B" (it will be backwords when you read it...like if u were to look at it through a mirror) :)

while my knowledge of Verbatim media is not as extensive as my knowledge on Taiyo Yuden, i've found that all my GENUINE Verbs start with a "ZD" coding just outside the hub area~ :)

check and see, and let me know..i THINK you should be just fine

docTY~

Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
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5. November 2005 @ 03:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
those Verb hubcodes are fine docTY :)

of course most of my current Verbatim are "GG" coded hint hint, gorgeous discs :)



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5. November 2005 @ 11:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@creaky

i know whatcha mean my friend, Taiyo Yuden discs are simply fantastic~ you and your TYG02s...grrr...i want me some too~ :)

docTY~

Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
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5. November 2005 @ 11:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i counted them earlier, only have 1400 in stock :O



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5. November 2005 @ 12:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@creaky

LOL, that's just about 200 shy of WHAT I HAVE LEFT IN STOCK...LOL~ can never have enough~! and with all this talk about Verbatim using CMC MAG/ PRODISC regardless of MCC media ID coding on them...i'm getting weary about getting any more Verbatims..i think i might jump on the DogBomb bandwagon VERY soon~ :)

good day to you buddy

docTY~

Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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5. November 2005 @ 12:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah you know me, usually i can only only buy 100 a time, but i thought why be so mean to myself, i just wish they'd last a little longer.

good day back at ya buddy



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@kivory666

well thanks again you got it again...can't see really
good but i got this,.........
"ZD4783-DVR-147C" must be them, just picked them up
at SAM'S CLUB for $17.00 50 pack...have read you guys
talking about them...................

i still love my "TY'S" though...........
are 8X...........

well thanks yall talk at you later.


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