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Itchy1
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1. November 2005 @ 08:04 |
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i am fairly n00b to burning dvd's but have done so successfully, however lately a couple of movies have given me a "region mismatch error" (this is usind dvdshrink) i ran the movies through dvd decrypter and got same type of error, is there a fix for this, or do i need a new program??? thnx
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1. November 2005 @ 08:19 |
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Itchy1
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1. November 2005 @ 08:23 |
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i had dvdfab for a little while, it didnt want to work with shrink, lol
but i will give it another go, ty
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temj
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1. November 2005 @ 08:29 |
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@ 9mmruger1 - I'm curious as to how DVDFab Decrypter will help with a "region" problem? If the drive is set to "region 1" and the DVD is "region 2", how is DVDFab Decrypter going to assist in this matter?
Modified firmware would be the logical suggestion, that is assuming that the DVD is in the same format (NTSC or PAL).
@ Itchy1 - What region is your drive set at? and What region is the DVD specified for?
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Itchy1
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1. November 2005 @ 08:33 |
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my drives and software is set to region 1. i havnt had this prob b4 until i tried to burn the bonus disc to Troy, and again today with Herbie Fully Loaded. thats the only time i have ever had this problem, and without incriminatin meself, lol i have burnt....well enough that i know this is an odd problem...
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temj
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1. November 2005 @ 09:24 |
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Is there any way you can take a screen shot of the error message?
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1. November 2005 @ 09:31 |
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@temj
I guess that I assumed that the encryption breaking would break the region code as well. I must have figured wrong. Could you explain the difference so that I don't make this error again?
What about AnyDVD - doesn't that break the region codes?
Can you explain Quote:
Modified firmware would be the logical suggestion, that is assuming that the DVD is in the same format (NTSC or PAL).
I really want to learn this stuff.
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temj
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1. November 2005 @ 09:50 |
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The DVD world is divided into six major geographical regions, with two additional regions reserved for specialized use.
To keep it simple, this means that DVD players and DVDs are labeled for operation on within a specific geographical region in the world.
For example, the U.S. is in region 1. This means that all DVD players sold in the U.S. are made to region 1 specifications. As a result, region 1 players can only play region 1 discs. That's right, the DVDs themselves are encoded for a specific region. On the back of each DVD package, you will a find a region number (1 thru 6).
The geographical regions are as follows:
REGION 1 -- USA, Canada
REGION 2 -- Japan, Europe, South Africa, Middle East, Greenland
REGION 3 -- S.Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Parts of South East Asia
REGION 4 -- Australia, New Zealand, Latin America (including Mexico)
REGION 5 -- Eastern Europe, Russia, India, Africa
REGION 6 -- China
REGION 7 -- Reserved for Unspecified Special Use
REGION 8 -- Resevered for Cruise Ships, Airlines, etc...
REGION 0 or REGION ALL -- Discs are uncoded and can be played Worldwide, however, PAL discs must be played in a PAL-compatible unit and NTSC discs must be played in an NTSC-compatible unit.
The end result is that DVDs encoded for regions other than Region 1 cannot be played on a region 1 DVD player, also, players marketed for other regions cannot play region 1-stamped DVDs.
Movies are released in theaters in different parts of the world at different times throughout the year. That Summer blockbuster in the U.S. may end up being the Christmas blockbuster overseas. If that occurs, the DVD version of the movie may be out in the U.S. while it is still showing in theaters overseas.
In order to preserve the financial integrity of the theatrical distribution of a particular film, it is not possible (under normal conditions) to have a friend in the U.S. send a DVD copy of the film to the country where it is in theatrical release and be able to play the DVD on a player there.
Depending on who you are, region coding can be considered a blessing or a curse. If you are movie studio executive, this is great, not only do you reap maximum profits from the theatrical releases, but also from the DVD releases for your film. However, if you are a consumer wanting to see a movie that is available on DVD in your relative's or friend's country but not in yours, you may have to wait quite a while.
However, another suspected rationale for region coding is beginning to emerge, possible price-fixing of DVDs depending on region. Although this is yet to be legally proven in court, if proven to be true, Australian and European courts may just put the heat on Hollywood and manufacturers to discontinue region coding as a marketing practice. New Zealand has been trying to elminate DVD region code restrictions in that country.
In addition, for those consumers that live in Europe, Australia, and Asia, there is an abundant market for so-called Code Free DVD players, which are essentially modified versions of stock DVD players in which the region coding function has been disabled.
With the magic of mail-order and the Internet, these players are widely available, even if not totally legal. For the fortunate owners of these players, DVDs can be purchased from any region.
However, as a reaction to the popularity of Code-Free DVD players, "Hollywood" has instituted another layer of coding on region1 DVDs called RCE (Regional Coding Enhancement) which prevents selected region1 DVDs from playing even on Code-Free DVD players.
There is additional hitch in this madness. Since the world is also divided into the NTSC, PAL, and SECAM video systems ( as outlined in my previous article: Who's Your PAL? ), the consumer may need a multi-system TV to access DVDs pressed in one of these systems. Although this is difficult in the U.S. market, where all video is based on the NTSC system, many consumers in Europe and some other parts of the world do own multi-system TVs that can view DVDs pressed in either NTSC or PAL.
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1. November 2005 @ 10:18 |
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@temj
So then only modified firmware is going to break the region codes from one region to another?
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temj
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1. November 2005 @ 10:23 |
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No, AnyDVD or DVD43 will allow the drive to see the DVD as "Region Free". AnyDVD and/or DVD43 will not correct PAL/NTSC mismatch.
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1. November 2005 @ 10:31 |
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@temj
Okay I think I am getting it.
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AnyDVD and/or DVD43 will not correct PAL/NTSC mismatch
So what you are indicating is that while ripping for burning using one of the above, the region bit will still remain on the backup copy, and therefore would not work for someone in another region should you send it to them?
I really am sorry to be such a bother to you.
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1. November 2005 @ 10:41 |
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Could he then have gotten his hands on some DVD's with a Region code other than his own?
@9mm
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PAL discs must be played in a PAL-compatible unit and NTSC discs must be played in an NTSC-compatible unit.
What temj is saying that you can make the disc region free to work in any region, but the PAL has to stay PAL and the NTSC has to stay NTSC.
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1. November 2005 @ 11:12 |
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I see, due to the 525 lines per frame vs the 625 of the PAL. I get it.
@temj - sorry for being a pia.
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Itchy1
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1. November 2005 @ 19:42 |
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wow i started quite a stir among everyone, lol. the defab solved my prob, ty very much, and yes the discs play on my dvd in region 1, when i tried to use shrink to copy them thats when the region error occurred, it gave me a selection to choose for a region, but region 1 was not allowed as a selection. i didnt change anything just closed it. when i used dvd decryp, it asked for a key # for the region error. so i assumed this might be some protection, but it didnt do this on the movie Troy only on the bonus disc, lol. i will attempt a screenie of it, but im pretty new to that as well, i'm mainly a gamer. :) thnx for all your help
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temj
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1. November 2005 @ 19:52 |
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@9mm - You weren't a bother! I had school all day today and tonight, so I went to bed early last night (well, early for me lol ).
Asking questions is how we all learn. Heck, its how I learned. :)
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Itchy1
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1. November 2005 @ 19:55 |
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well im still clueless,lol. and learnin all this, u guy's lost me at PAL stuff. i pretty much just follow the guidelines of dvdshrink, strip and burn, i dont get into much more than that.
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temj
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1. November 2005 @ 20:04 |
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Itchy, do you see how the word " PAL " is blue? Well, click on it. Then read on that page it loads.
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Itchy1
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1. November 2005 @ 21:19 |
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temj
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1. November 2005 @ 21:26 |
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Are you sure the DVD you are trying to open up is a "Region 1" DVD?
From that screen shot, it would appear that the DVD is in fact either region 3, 4, or 5?
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Itchy1
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1. November 2005 @ 21:32 |
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i can tell you that i watched the dvd on both my players with no problem, i got the same code with herbie fully loaded as well, and i watched that b4 i tried to burn it, so i am very confused, lol
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Itchy1
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1. November 2005 @ 21:48 |
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temj
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1. November 2005 @ 21:50 |
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Itchy1
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1. November 2005 @ 21:52 |
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lol, let me remind u that i am very n00b at this, i only know how to use it that way. i havnt learned any other format, to be honost. if i d/l any movies i look for those type of files, due to my limited knowledge of burning. i have alot of burn programs(thnx to a friend with skillz at burning, even he was confused at this error)
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temj
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1. November 2005 @ 21:52 |
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Wait, your in region 3, 4, or 5 aren't you?
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temj
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1. November 2005 @ 21:53 |
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Where do you live?
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