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Highblood
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9. November 2005 @ 04:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all! I would just like to confirm somethings to clarify my confusions about the DVD writing speed and media write speed!

I have a [DVD BURNER +/- /+R/+RW/ -R/-RW DL]
And in the specs of the dvd writing it says that:

DVD+R DL(8x), DVD+R/+RW(16x), DVD-R/-RW(16x) and CD-R/-RW(48x)

and if i have a media which is 1x-4x Ridata ritek!


can i burn in the dvd burner at 1x to 4x speed regardless of the burner specified speed? thanks

and btw is it the minimum or maximum write speed of the burner?

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9. November 2005 @ 04:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes you can burn the disk from 1 to 4x. Some burners will burn faster than the speed listed on the disk, but for the most part burners usually will only burn up to the disk speed. The specs state the maximum of the burner.


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10. November 2005 @ 01:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the reply! helps a lot!

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10. November 2005 @ 03:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You are welcome, glad I could help :)


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10. November 2005 @ 06:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what about burning at a slower speed? say you have 16x media, could you still burn at 4x or would thatnot be recommended? the reason i ask is because of what i've read on this forum. some people recommend that you don't burn faster than 4x, which is fine. i don't mind waiting, but if i could burn a times faster with no loss in quality, then i would probably do that. thanks.
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10. November 2005 @ 06:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes you can burn slower than the max rate of the media. For example I use 8x DVD+R media and burn at 4x always. I could burn faster, but choose not to as I don't want coasters or a degradation of quality. Others choose to burn faster and have results that satisfy them.

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10. November 2005 @ 06:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks.....i think i'll just stick with 4x media. i've had good luck with that so far.
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11. November 2005 @ 02:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
nice! its just all i want to know! now its clear to me that i can burn at more lower speed than my burners speed!

Anyway i just downloaded a dvd decrypter! i heard that its good! but one thing i noticed is that it has no help or tutorial files! I believe that many in this site knows a place to look for tutorials on dvd decrypter


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11. November 2005 @ 02:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You should be able to adjust the burn speed in your burn program.

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11. November 2005 @ 03:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Highblood

Here is a guide that shows Decrypter and its settings

http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/dvddec.htm


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11. November 2005 @ 04:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I definitely don't recommend burning faster than the media is rated for. A few months ago I bought some 4x Taiyo Yuden DVD-R discs and another spindle of Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD+R. I can burn the 4x discs at 8x, but I end up with a disc that can only be played on my PC. They have serious stutter and skipping issues on my standalones. The 8x discs I've burned at up to 12x without any playback issues, but I don't have any need to burn faster than 8x so I've since bought the same +R discs but only burn at 8x.

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11. November 2005 @ 04:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i'm with vurbal on this one too, i burn my 4x rated Taiyo Yudens @4x and my 8x rated Taiyo Yudens @8x...while i don't purchase 16x rated media very often, i kept these burns @8x on 16x rated media just to be on the safe side~ :)

"overburning" is NOT RECOMMENDED by me or anyone else for the most part; what i mean by that word is burning faster than the rated speed of the media itself~ like burning @8x on a 4x rated disc as vurbal pointed out...this is NOT a good idea AT ALL...i CAN burn my 8x rated Taiyo Yudens @16x, but i have done a few by mistake at that speed and the quality was very poor, seriously, no need to rush burns...

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11. November 2005 @ 06:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so do you notice a difference in quality when you burn 8x media at 8x or when you burn 4x media at 4x? i know everyone says slow is good. so far i've only been using TY 4x -Rs and burnign at 4x, but i recently got some TY 8Xs. because i'm willing to live the time it takes to burn at 4x should i still burn the 8x media at 4x?

also, i've read, i think in one of the forums here, someone mention that 8X media or 16X media is made to be burned at those speeds and that burning at a lower speed than the media is rated for is not a good idea. has anyone experienced problems doing this. would it incounter the same problems as burning at a faster speed?
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11. November 2005 @ 07:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As I mentioned, when I burn my TY 4x discs at 8x they look fine on the computer, but standalones have serious problems reading them. As to buring media at a slower speed than it's rated at, that's a debate that's been going on since CD burners started getting fast. Here are the basic arguments I've seen that make the most sense (both for and against).

1) You should burn slower because it will be more accurate and give you a lower error rate.

2) Burning at a slower speed doesn't make any difference because the error correction of the file system will take care of any errors (with CDs this is a slightly less all-purpose argument since not all CD file systems have error correction)

3) Every burner has an optimal burn speed. If you burn any faster than that you'll get higher error rates (regardless of the media) and if you burn slower you can damage the disc because drives designed for faster burning use higher powered lasers. (I've never compared the specs on different burners' lasers so don't ask me how valid this really is)

In reality there is no definitive answer, but since I've never had problems using a good burner to burn good media I just stick to the rated speed and don't worry about it.

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Highblood
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11. November 2005 @ 19:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@arniebear thanks for the helpfull reply man!

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11. November 2005 @ 20:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@arniebear, I also thank you, I checked out Decrypter guide, its a good one, Cheers



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11. November 2005 @ 20:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use Decrypter to burn Iso images. Am I correct in that it can only burn those images, whether made by decrypter, shrink, or Rebuilder Pro? Just wondering as i have read several burn using decrypter, are they talking about Iso images or something else?
Thanks guys, again just wondering.
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12. November 2005 @ 06:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@gwendolin & Highblood

You are welcome, glad you enjoyed the guide, it is great for knowing just what all the settings do.

@MovieDud

Hi, buddy how you doing? Decrypter just burns iso images from whatever the source, cannot burn any other type of file.


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12. November 2005 @ 07:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@creaky, thanks my friend...that's what I thought just confirming. I'm doing alright. Ready to relax a little bit this weekend. You have yourself a good day and weelend.
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13. November 2005 @ 06:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@MovieDud - lmao, i hadn't got around to reading this one properly nor replied but got thanked anyway. LOL, i think you meant arniebear :) :)





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@creaky

Lol, see what happens when you are a legend, you do not even have to answer, you get thanked automatically :)


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ROTFLMAO :O



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Highblood
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3. December 2005 @ 08:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
UMMM im back! hey there mate! i got another question but i think its kind a off topic!

I already have bought a dvd burner, but getting a little problem on burning some files! My brother went in to my pc and started doin clean ups, He put all my files and backups to one folder and converted it to ISO file (around 4Gb size of it) then my dumb brother, after converting my files to ISO he then zip my file w/ WinRAR... now here comes my problem im trying to unrar/unzip the ISO he just created my pc but seems im already getting the msg about the NTFS are the only system that can supports upto 4Gb? its not happening to me before i even unrar or unzip a size of morethan 5Gb b4 w/out any problem and my system is fat32 as is!

anyone can help me? on how to extract the file, so that i can burn the ISO image? thanks

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