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Verbatim 16x slow on ND-3520A?
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shaurz
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10. November 2005 @ 13:03 |
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I bought 50 Verbatim 16x AZO+ DVD-Rs hearing that they were quite good and all that. Well they seem to burn and read fine. I have no complaints in that department.
However burning is very slow. I get around 4x average. One particular disc took about half an hour to burn, slowing to a stop for 5 minutes! (The disc seemed to be fine when it finally finished. I scanned it with dvdisaster to make sure.)
I had no troubles before with Datawrite Yellows which burned at the advertised speed of 8x. I've never had a coaster with this drive.
My drive is NEC ND-3520A (I haven't changed the firmware at all) and my software is K3b.
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shaurz
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10. November 2005 @ 13:54 |
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Speak of the devil, I've got my first coaster! It seemed to burn fine but I can't read it at all. So much for Verbatim (unless my drive is dying?)
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10. November 2005 @ 14:15 |
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http://forum.rpc1.org/ go here and check ur firmware. the first time i tried 16x verbs they burned at 2.4x until i updated my firmware.
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10. November 2005 @ 14:30 |
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why would you want to burn that fast anyways?
i dont ever burn above 4x.. sometimes 8x
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10. November 2005 @ 14:40 |
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How to speed up the burning process:
?Tip #1: Enable DMA?
DMA transfer is an option in modern drives which is an improved transfer method over PIO. With this enabled on both your hard drive and DVD-ROM drive, DVD ripping speeds can be significantly improved.
?Steps to enable DMA (Windows XP)
Right click on 'My Computer' on your desktop and select 'Properties'. Click the 'Hardware' tab and launch the 'Device Manager'. Press the '+' sign to expand the trees of both 'DVD/CD-ROM Drives' and 'IDE Controllers'. Double click your DVD-ROM drive, click the Advanced Settings tab and change the transfer mode to DMA if available. Repeat this step for the IDE channel which your hard drive is on.
?Tip #2: Update Firmware?
Some DVD-ROM manufacturers purposely limit the DVD ripping speed of ther drives to try and prevent customers from making copies of retail DVDs. Normally, the limitation can be bypassed by flashing your DVD-ROM drive with an updated or hacked firmware (which also may allow you to make your DVD-ROM drive region-free).
?Warning: Flashing your device's firmware can result in permenant damage of your DVD-ROM drive. DO NOT undertake this step if you are uncomfortable with the risk! You have been warned!
?Tip #3: Re-install IDE Controller?
Many people have reported that re-installing their primary IDE controller gave them a boost in ripping speed.
?Steps to re-install Primary IDE Controller (Windows XP)
Right click on 'My Computer' on your desktop and select Properties. Click the Hardware tab and launch the Device Manager. Press the + sign to expand the tree of 'IDE Controllers'. Right click your Primary IDE Controller and select Uninstall. Now re-boot your computer, and Windows should automatically re-install your IDE Controller
?Tip #4: Install Latest ASPI Layers?
This is a fairly gray area as some people have mentioned that they see a performance increase in ripping speed when ASPI layers are installed, while others have said the opposite.
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10. November 2005 @ 14:53 |
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ur car can go up to 160mph but is it worth it?
when driving at 160mph i bet it's very unstablize and it's the same story with the dvd media.
stop hoping, start loving.
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AfterDawn Addict
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10. November 2005 @ 15:12 |
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I've burned the 16x Verbs at 4x, 8x, 12x and 16x with my BenQ DW1640. The best scans are produced at the highest burning speeds. Kinda like a racecar .. why drive a Nextel Cup car at 50 mph .. it's a total waste!
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10. November 2005 @ 15:14 |
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cat r u serious dude the verbatim 16x can take that kind of beating. dude i'm kind of excited now since i don't ned to burn at 4x or 2x anymore.
stop hoping, start loving.
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Unjust2u
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10. November 2005 @ 15:25 |
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hello cat:) , whats your average burn speed on those 16x verbatims?? also do you use the office depot riteks 8x +r's? if so what speed do you burn those at?? /unjust
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shaurz
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10. November 2005 @ 16:38 |
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I had another bad one so I decided to try it in Windows/Nero. This time it burned at a reasonable speed (took about 6 minutes) and works just fine. So I suspect this may be a software problem.
Regarding firmware, I'd rather not use unofficial firmware if I can avoid it. Do NEC release new firmware revisions? I couldn't find anything on Google.
I examined the two bad discs and they have very unusual burn patterns on them compared to my good discs. Hmm.
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shaurz
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10. November 2005 @ 16:56 |
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11. November 2005 @ 04:39 |
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@shaurz
I have the same NEC drive. I first updated my firmware from the NEC website, I then downloaded the hacked firmware from here: http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_result.php?kaj=1&isces
The maddog version...if you want to unleash the full potential of this drive this is the one you need. It removes the riplock feature of the drive, ie. you can rip at around 12X. It also allowed for faster burns. I have successfully burned 8X media at 12.6X.
I subscribe to thelox714's burning methods, but I agree with catfreak...
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why drive a Nextel Cup car at 50 mph .. it's a total waste!
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AfterDawn Addict
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11. November 2005 @ 05:01 |
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The 16x Verbs start off at 6x-8x, but by the end 16x and sailing ... The 8x OD Riteks will burn at a rock solid 8x all the way ... The 8x Fuji/Yudens ;pve 12x while the 2.4x DL Verbs will clock in at a steady 8x ..
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7. Why is 16X speed applied only at the outer area
of the disc?
Answer: If you compare the very inner track and the very outer track of a disc, you can understand that more information can be recorded in the very outer track, assuming the physical size of the data is similar from inner to outer
In fact, about 2.5 times more information can be recorded in the very outer track when compared to the innermost tracks. Then, assuming the rotation speed of the disc is the same for every track, you can record information 2.5 times faster in the very outer track than in the very inner track.
Since 16X writers rotate discs at constant speed, inner tracks are recorded at around 6X speed and only outer area tracks are recorded at 16X speed.
Consequently, a flat disc shape is very important to attain stable 16X recording at the outer disc edge. By the way, from a disc manufacturing viewpoint, it is more difficult to maintain a flat disc at the outer edge.
(taken from Best16xBurn, a very interesting site) http://www.best16xburn.com/
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