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wowzers
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15. November 2005 @ 13:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all....I am having troubles backing up the movie "Stealth" I am getting the message "Invalid DVD Navigation Structure" using dvd shrink 3.2. I also tried using dvd decrypter but with no success. The dvd is brand new so I don't understand why I cannot back it up. Any ideas?.......Thanks
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15. November 2005 @ 13:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it may have the new sony protection. if so u will need AnyDVD or dvdfabdecrypter to do the job. dvdfab is free here at ad just go to filepedia.com.

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wowzers
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15. November 2005 @ 14:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Gamename........I will definately give it a try...Cheers :)
dvd_craze
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15. November 2005 @ 14:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
easy burn AnyDVD, DVD Shrink and Nero ..done
falcon07
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15. November 2005 @ 18:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just finished backing up Stealth. I used Decrypt, AnyDVD, and Nero Recode. The movie had a 4-7 minute blank spot at the beginning. Otherwise, the movie played back ok. Anyone have any ideas on what might cause this?

Falcon07
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15. November 2005 @ 18:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Easy one. Use CloneDVD 2 with the latest version of AnyDVD. Back -Up main movie. No problems at all. Very fast process too. About 25 minutes. Perfect Playback! There is no commercial DVD out that this combination can't do easily. Really.

Use The Best Media for The Best Burns! TYs, Verbs,(Made in Taiwan) Sony MIJs (YUDEN000 T02), Sony Made in Taiwan DVD+R 16x, Maxell MIJ, RITEK G05.
falcon07
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15. November 2005 @ 18:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What is the latest version of AnyDVD? I hear it is 5.5.2.1 but when I go to the website I see 5.5.1.1.

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15. November 2005 @ 18:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ya AnyDVD is at 5.5.1.1
Dminer
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15. November 2005 @ 18:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have just bought AnyDVD, as suggested by the forum, but I am having problems still. When I try to shrink the movie Stealth, the movie is too large to fit on the disk. Do you have any suggestions as to how I can make the file smaller. I am relatively inexperienced in the backup world, and can use all the help I can get. Step by step instructions are necessary. Thank you.
wowzers
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16. November 2005 @ 03:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can click on re-author at top of DVD Shrink and then copy and drag the movie ONLY to the left and then back up. Good luck.
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16. November 2005 @ 06:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For those of you that mentioned the latest version of AnyDVD - it is actually 5.5.3.1 - It was last updated on the 14th!

Go to the afterdawn software site and Dl it - I will provide this link str8 to it for you.

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/anyd...



zhelpz
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16. November 2005 @ 06:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dminer

You can get a step by step guide for your need here:
http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/BACKUP%20WITH%20SHRINK.pdf


ic99fly
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17. November 2005 @ 19:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Actually 5.5.4.1 is the newest version of AnyDVD. Updated on the 17th.
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20. November 2005 @ 20:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As of the 20th - slysoft is on the ball again - nw the newest is 5.5.5.1 - My advice is to keep checking - Anydvd is really updated regularly - as you can see.

Falcon,

You had a 4-7 min blank spot at the beginning ? I know you said it played ok otherwise - but I did not have that problem. You know that you can trim that mess out in your Nero recode if you did/ do the "movie only" feature. then you shall have no blank spot! I am wondering if you can try running it through again with the latest update and see if the blank spot even occurs.

(and to answer your exact question - what may have caused that ... if it is not still some of the encryption issue - I wonder - Did you happen to do your backup in Full disk mode and hit the "DISBALE" button? When you hit disable in recode, you disbale the part you click on, but nero will still put something in place of it so the movie will stay "in tact". if you did not do that, I believe you still may have hit a slight encryption issue - even if it went through).

Just FYI - for anyone who may have that problem with this movie (or any other).


This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. November 2005 @ 20:26

btitus
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21. November 2005 @ 04:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dvdfabdecrypter and shrink worked beautifully on this movie. If you do a full disc backup u will will not get the blank space before the start of the movie.
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21. November 2005 @ 05:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all

AnyDVD is now at Version 5.5.5.1.

Here's the link:-

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/anyd...

Slysoft sure ARE on the ball!!! - maybe this latest version will help.

Regards





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mic4564
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21. November 2005 @ 06:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
falcon07

I had the same problem.
Plextor burner / Ritek G05 disk / Updated Decrypt, AnyDVD, Nero

All programs up to date. I got the same blank screen that you had. Have to fast forward till the movie starts. Title (1) does not start on its own.

This is the only problem I've ever had with updated AnyDVD. I'm thinking user error, but not sure.

Falcon07, sounds like we made the same mistake, but I know I backed-up this movie the same as all the others. Go Figure!!!!
ic99fly
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21. November 2005 @ 18:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Title 1 will start on it's own, it just takes about 20 seconds for some reason. No biggie. Have not tried 5.5.5.1 on it yet. Has anyone emailed Slysoft with this problem? The update does not mention stealth at all. Only Star Wars III.
bassnut
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22. November 2005 @ 01:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok ..... There was no big deal to either of these 2 movie ..... And I used the same technique on both. There have been a few movies that have come out latley where they are 2 big for Shrink to fit on your disk. One solution ..... Clone Dvd along with AnyDVD will work for you ..... thats the easy way.

The way I prefer to do it ..... I will rip the movie to the hard drive with DVDDecryptor first then run it through VOB Blanker to get rid of anything you don't want on the disk you will burn....

1) Rip movie to hard drive with DVDDecryptor ..... note you will get a pack header warning or something like that .... don't worry let DVDDecryptor do its thing. You will need AnyDVD running in the background for some movies.

2) Make a second set of folders for your output files from VOB Blanker .... First Folder .... Stealth (or what ever the movie is called) and 2 folders inside ....VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS

4) Browse to the output foder ..... the ones you have just made .... and select the VIDEO_TS folder to hold your procesed files.

5) Now run the movie through VOB Blanker .... reoving anything you do not wish to keep by viewing the files identified by VOB Blanker and clicking on Blank. I ussually remove traileras and warning screens .... but that is up to you. You can see up top the difference in file size as you remove files as it lists the final size of your movie after proccesing.

6) Once VOB Blanker is done exit and compress and burn with Shrink and your done.

there is sometimes a flicker or two in the movie (sony movies primarily) where you have removed allot of matierial but that is ussually righ at the front and will not cause you any problems on playback.

I hope this helps you with these movies.


zhelpz
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22. November 2005 @ 19:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Mic,


You did not make a mistake - it is just the way it does it when you do not do full disk mode.

IF you have Nero recode, OR any re-authoring software where you can TRIM your video - you really can trim out the black part and that will solve that.


ic99fly
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23. November 2005 @ 00:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I notice that when the backup is placed in the DVD player, when it tries to start up, the counter is stuck at 1 second for about 15 seconds before the movie starts. I don't think that you will be able to trim it if it's not actually counting during the blank spot. That's just the way I have come to know.

Just my .02
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23. November 2005 @ 01:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
this movie was very easy to backup........ I used DVDDecryter to rip, DVDRebuilder Pro to make to a DVD-5, and CopyToDVD to burn and it was done soooooo easily! I also tried DVDFAb Express and it burned nicely, too, to a DVD+RW! Nothing special about this movie!
zhelpz
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23. November 2005 @ 04:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ic99fly,

I myself have personally done the trimming feature on this - after seeing that they had the problem. 1st I did movie only mode and did encounter some problems - on one player it just stayed stuck forever. On a different player it stuck for about 10 seconds then played, and (now this is really funny ---->) On my OLDEST - old-as-dirt dvd player - it played flawlessly.

Therefore, I went back, trimmed out the black spot of the movie in Nero Recode, and made the movie start without the black spot there, and there were no problems on any of the players.

It CAN be done and it is very easy to do..


PS - you do not have to have nero Reode to do this - this can be done in shrink also - in the REAUTHOR section - with the start/end frame icon.

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Oh and FYI - When i backed up the full movie that problem did not occur at all

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IHoe,

I believe there are different "copies" of this movie out because I have read MANY posts of ppl using the exact same software together where some have problems and some do not. I used Anydvd and did have problems whereas some ppl did the same thing and did not, and others claimed they had problems also. I ended up ripping it to HD via AnyDVD with the help of FAB Decryptor. then i had to compress it through SHRINK.

I was able to back it up to the HD, but nero would never pull it up w/o error. Same with Clonedvd. All my software was updated. I had never had any of those problems before.

I had to take it/finish it through Shrink to get it done Initially.
Only then was I able to put it through recode to make other adjustments (Which at that point I was just playing around trying to see what would and would not work)




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23. November 2005 @ 13:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@zhelpz-------Like I said...... DVDDecryter is still king...... it ripped without a hitch to the hard drive....... then I used DVDRebuilder Pro, movie only, and it came out great! I also did the same movie with DVDFab Express and it worked just fine! And I don't believe that a movie company would make different versions of the same movie...... that some would have different protections than other disks with the same movie!!! The only thing that I can think of is the different regions...... maybe the people having problems with this movie are in a certain region or have something in their computer that are making conflits with this movie! who knows..... I must be a lucky one!
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zhelpz
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23. November 2005 @ 14:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ihoe -

Yep what you said - When I said different ones I meant from the various regions - but I think you "spoke it" much clearer than I *L*

But you arent just one of the lucky ones - its alot of ppl who just did not have problems - maybe we are the unlucky's *L*

Anyway, I am just posting to try to help whomever is reading, just in case it can be helpful.

Speaking of Rebuilder Pro - I have recently DLed the FREEWARE version, have not had a chance to play around with it yet, but I have heard nothing but good things about that program.


 
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