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putter
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21. November 2005 @ 14:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I downloaded a movie yesterday. It came in two parts in AVI format. I have
joined both of the files to one using VirtualDub. Here are the specs of the
newly created AVI file.

Audio:
44100Hz 128 kb/s

Video:
25 FPS
640 x 272 Resolution

If I was to guess, I'd say this is a PAL format video. This is the highest quality
version of the movie I could find. What I need to do is convert this video to
standard NTSC DVD-compliant format with the highest quality possible. I
would like to output file to have the resolution of 720x480. But I don't want the
video to be jumpy when converting to 23.976 FPS or 29.97 FPS (whichever
would produce the best quality). I also need the audio to stay in sync with the
video. I tried using Cucusoft AVI/MPEG to DVD/VCD/SVCD/MPEG Creator,
but the output video was kinda blotchy. What software can I use for QUALITY?

I have had more luck with converting NTSC AVI files. Maybe I could change
the resolution of the AVI while keeping the original video size pretty much
intact. If I can do that, then I could convert that AVI file to a DVD-compliant
MPEG. Please help me on this.

-PutterPlace

I've always been told that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. But who in the hell wants flies?

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. November 2005 @ 04:34

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22. November 2005 @ 05:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Extract the audio to .wav in VirtualDub.
Convert it to 48khz AC3 or MP2 in Ffmpeggui.
Save it aside.
Load the AVI into your encoder, and encode it to NTSC aspect (by adding black borders where needed, so you don't stretch or squash the picture), but DO NOT change the framerate. Leave it at 25fps.
Encode it to m2v/mpv with NO audio.
Load the resulting video into DGPulldown, and change the framerate flag to 29.97fps.
Load the previously saved AC3/MP2 and the dgpulldown.m2v into your authoring program. Author and burn.

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Cheers, Jim
putter
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22. November 2005 @ 08:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What exactly do I use to encode it to m2v/mpv with no audio?

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Minion
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22. November 2005 @ 12:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Try TMPGEnc??

You could also use "Canopus Procoder" to encode it directly to a NTSC Mpeg-2 file.....

Or what I do is Install AVISynth and write a Script like this:

AVISource("C:/Movie files/My Movie.avi")
AssumeFPS(23.976,True)
LanczosResize(720,304)
AddBorders(00,88,00,88)

Then save it with an .avs extention and Load it into an encoder Like TMPGEnc and encode it to 23.976fps with 3:2 Pulldown which will leave you with a Perfectly fine NTSC Video/Audio files that are in Perfect sync which you then just author to DVD...

This is Probably More Difficult to do that RebootJims way but it does make for a Perfect NTSC File.....

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putter
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22. November 2005 @ 12:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I will try both of the ways to find the best result. Thanks Minion. Since I'm already working on the other way, though, I'll finish that one first, then I'll try it the other way. What software do I need to "encode it to m2v/mpv with no audio'?

-PutterPlace

I've always been told that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. But who in the hell wants flies?

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. November 2005 @ 12:41

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22. November 2005 @ 13:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tmpgenc, Canopus Procoder (Express), Mainconcept, or CCE (Basic), would be the top 4 choices.

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Cheers, Jim
putter
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22. November 2005 @ 14:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks very much. I'll post back here with my results.

-PutterPlace

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putter
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22. November 2005 @ 17:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm going to be needing more help than I thought. How do I encode the resulting MPEG to m2v/mpv with no audio using TMPGEnc?

-PutterPlace

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23. November 2005 @ 05:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Load the AVI, click on ES Video only.

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Cheers, Jim
putter
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23. November 2005 @ 18:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"Load the AVI into your encoder, and encode it to NTSC aspect (by adding black borders where needed, so you don't stretch or squash the picture), but DO NOT change the framerate. Leave it at 25fps."

For this step, was the video supposed to stay in AVI format? If so, what encoder would you suggest I use because my encoder will only encode to MPEG, it won't keep it in AVI format.

I've always been told that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. But who in the hell wants flies?
putter
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23. November 2005 @ 18:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"Load the AVI into your encoder, and encode it to NTSC aspect (by adding black borders where needed, so you don't stretch or squash the picture), but DO NOT change the framerate. Leave it at 25fps."

For this step, was the video supposed to stay in AVI format? If so, what encoder would you suggest I use because my encoder will only encode to MPEG, it won't keep it in AVI format.

I've always been told that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. But who in the hell wants flies?
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24. November 2005 @ 05:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No.
Encode the AVI to mpg, using black borders (look on the advanced tab) to keep aspect ratio, then select ES video only on the settings tab.
Tmpgenc will output an .m2v file. (or mpv)
You now have a 25fps m2v that's actually at 720x480, and an AC3 (or mp2) audio file.
Load the m2v into dgpulldown, and change it's fps to 29.97
Load the resulting dgpulldown.m2v and the AC3 into your authoring program.

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
putter
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24. November 2005 @ 21:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know why I'm having the worst time with this. I'm in TMPGEnc, and I've loaded the unprocessed AVI, selected ES (Video Only). I clicked on the "Setting" button, and changed the stream type to MPEG-2 Video. In the advanced tab, I selected "Full Screen (keep aspect ratio)" as the video arrange method. What other settings do I need to change, if any, in the setting window?

Do I leave source aspect ratio (in the advanced tab) at "1:1 (VGA)"?
Do I need to leave the size (in the video tab) at "640x272"?
Do I need to leave the aspect ratio (in the video tab) at "1:1 (VGA)"?
etc...

Please help me with this. Thank you very much for being so patient with me. I'm sorry about all of the questions. I'm just learning how to do most of this stuff.

-PutterPlace

I've always been told that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. But who in the hell wants flies?
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25. November 2005 @ 05:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
On the settings tab:
Stream type, mpeg-2 video.
Size 720x480.
Aspect ratio 4:3 TV
Framerate 25fps.

On the Advanced tab:
Source aspect ratio 1:1 VGA
Video arrange method, fullscreen keep aspect ratio 2.


Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
putter
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25. November 2005 @ 14:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cool, thanks. I will post back here with anymore questions I have or when I finish encoding. Thanks again.

-PutterPlace

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putter
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26. November 2005 @ 08:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've finished burning the DVD, and everything was fine until it got to the Movie. The video was very jumpy. Probably from the framerate conversion. I'll keep trying different methods though. Thanks for your help.

-PutterPlace

I've always been told that you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. But who in the hell wants flies?
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28. November 2005 @ 06:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If the original AVI is 25fps, then you should encode it to 25fps, and using dgpulldown, it should not be jumpy.
Are you playing this back on the computer, or on a standalone?
What did you use to author it?

Black holes are where God divided by zero...
Cheers, Jim
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psikandar
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29. November 2005 @ 20:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sir, what is dgpulldown?
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