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DVD Decrypter to be removed
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 24 November, 2005
Macrovision Corporation recently acquired the intellectual property rights in all versions of DVD Decrypter from its author, Lightning UK!. As the current owner of the intellectual property rights in DVD Decrypter Macrovision has contacted us to inform that "any license granted by Lightning UK! to AfterDawn for the distribution of any version of the Software [DVD Decrypter] is hereby terminated ... [ read the full article ]
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bigt1
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27. November 2005 @ 23:11 |
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Doom9 & MRBass still have it. Why was ADAWN singled out to get rid of it?
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aabbccdd
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27. November 2005 @ 23:41 |
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huge huge ,high profile site ,thats why
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pogipaul
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28. November 2005 @ 03:14 |
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Thanks for the tip.Yes, Mrbass.org has it, along with a few others.And ,as another suggested, I will burn it to CD.Here's where I hope I can help. Don't count on Norton/symantec to save you on those. 3 times in 2 years their "protection" has deleted DVDDcrypt. Thank God I switched services before Monday!
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S2K
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28. November 2005 @ 05:01 |
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"My understanding was that UK and USA (and other) law simply states that one must not provide the tools that would enable a company's copy-protection mechanisms to be circumvented.
MacroVision had ZERO claim-of-ownership to any of the code in LUK's software. However, since UK law states that you may NOT circumvent/alter/disable anyone else's proprietary, patented copy-protection mechanisms, which is what MicroSuck is all about, they had a legal right to demand that UK remove that portion of his software ONLY. "
I understand you are a moderator, and but You are confused and giving out INCORRECT information. The issue would be a PATENT issue.
Did any of you follow what really happened in the 321 case or read any of the briefs? The trap they got caught in, the one where macrovision had the by the BALLS was patent law.
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A_Klingon
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28. November 2005 @ 08:05 |
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321? What is that? Who are they?
(No, of course not. I have never been in personal contact with Robert Moore on several occassions).
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I understand you are a moderator, and but You are confused and giving out INCORRECT information. The issue would be a PATENT issue.
That's correct. And MV made it abundantly clear they were not going to allow LUK to circumvent their patented suckware. But anyway -- patents aside, I'm not disseminating incorrect information; I am expressing my opinion and asking questions. As another was quick to point out, I am not an attorney.
What I AM is one of a zillion people who are becoming increasingly pissed off at the scare tactics used by large companies against small individuals in managing to systematically stamp out people's Fair Rights, including yours, by their well-financed bank of Attorneys and paid-off politicians & Judges, simply because it threatens their already abundant bottom-line.
I question MV's legal authority to demand someone else's intellectual property through coersion, intimidation, threats, and bullying. I question that which I believe to be inherently wrong and unjust.
Do you believe MacroSuction had a right to demand LUK's software and declare it as their own?
[ ] - Yes
[ ] - No
Do you believe their legal entitlement should have stopped if LUK had deleted the MV-defeating portion of his program?
[ ] - Yes
[ ] - No
Please advise me of your thought on these issues and let me know the correct answers to these qustions so that I won't be erroneously tempted to give out wrong information in the future.
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JaguarGod
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28. November 2005 @ 08:28 |
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I thought the MicroNuts protection is just a 1 in one of the lines of VIDEO_TS.IFO that can be turned off by changing it to a 0. If this is the case, they would have to shut down every software capable of editing an IFO.
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S2K
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28. November 2005 @ 10:49 |
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A_Klingon, I did not want to come off too critical. I would say you are 90% correct in what you have said on this thread.
The tactic used by macrovision wa, let's face it, a threat of a bankrupting legal war on a little guy who could not afford it. But the wierd conjuction of dmca AND patent is what got 321 and it would have been the case with DVD Decrypter.
I just think it is important to seperate the legal issues from issues of equity and fairness.
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chesty
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28. November 2005 @ 12:04 |
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I quess none of you people actually live in the united states.
I will make it simple.
Under Us copyright law under the DMCA the author of dvd decyrpter would not only have to worry about distribution of css utilties which is illegal in it's self on the internet or otherwise he could also get sued for a patent violation and enroachment by macrovision for stealing any of their patents.
That is the bottom line in the united states.
CORPORATE GREED.........
Those people don't miss a thing and that is why everyt tangible commodity in the united states has a copyright or patent rights attached to it so if a person infringes on their copyright or patent rights they will sue their butts off and put them out of business by civil litigation and adverse judgements penalties and legal fees.
I even had a US congressman write me onetime and tell me that copyright and patents is the bulwark of the United states constitution and she claimed that piracy in general inhibits industry's ability to be creative and to create an atmosphere of ingenuity.
This was in verbatim in a e - mail i received by my senator that represents me in california.
There have been repeated attempts to change the anti circumvention clause of the DMCA in the United States congress but all attempts have failed thus far because ALL menbers of the United states congress are on the RIAA and MPAA'S bribe and kickback list.
If The author of DVD Decrypter lived in the united states not only would have he lost his shirt he would have also lost his butt.
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davidl1l
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28. November 2005 @ 12:26 |
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has anyone downloaded imgburn and is it the same as dvd decrypt or is it better...
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Chetwood
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28. November 2005 @ 12:42 |
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huge huge ,high profile site ,thats why
LOL! Doom9 is and has been THE high profile site when it comes to video backup.
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JaguarGod
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28. November 2005 @ 13:00 |
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@davidl1l,
I have ImgBurn and it is definatley NOT DVD Decrypter. What it is, is a very good low resource Image Burning Software. It is based on DVD Decrypters burning engine. For now, Decrypter is a great Burning app, but in time, it will not work with all DVD Burners. Therefore, ImgBurn is a good tool to have for free Image Burning since it will still update.
As far as I know there will not be any type of DVD Reading on the program.
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S2K
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28. November 2005 @ 15:32 |
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"<I>Under Us copyright law under the DMCA the author of dvd decyrpter would not only have to worry about distribution of css utilties which is illegal in it's self on the internet or otherwise he could also get sued for a patent violation and enroachment by macrovision for stealing any of their patents."</I>
Patent protection in the UK is the same as the US
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A_Klingon
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28. November 2005 @ 19:30 |
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S2K :
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I just think it is important to seperate the legal issues from issues of equity and fairness.
Well perhaps, but they're so hopelessly intertwined it's virtually impossible to separate the two.
And I DO see your analogy between DVDD and 321. The two cases have a lot in common. (DeCSS and MV Patents). It appears (to me) that MV pulled exactly the same stunt on DVDD as they did 321. I guess they figured since they walloped 321, DVDD would be small potatoes.
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I would say you are 90% correct in what you have said on this thread.
Jumpin' Johanna! 90% (!!) That's a record for me!
(I must be improving) 
@chesty :
Thank you for your very thoughtful post above.
It's both a scary and depressing situation when a congressman (and Senator as well???) both tell you what the deplorable situation IS, yet seem resigned that nothing will change for the better. (They didn't give you any cause for hope).
Gawd! You guys in the US have it rough!!! (We all do really). Sooner or later, whatever happens in the USA winds it's way here into Canada as well. Not that it matters that much, because our own government is corrupt. (Just tonight, our Liberal Prime Minister was voted out of a job for "corruption and organized crime"). All opposition parties (3 of them) voted that our present government has lost the "moral authority" to govern any further. We are now forced into another election.
Do you have any such remedy in the US? (With all of the political buy-offs, I sort-of doubt it). :-|
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davidl1l
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29. November 2005 @ 07:45 |
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yea i went to their site and downloaded it.it looks about the same so i unastalled it...lol...
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runner121
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29. November 2005 @ 23:09 |
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Of course they will send code to deactivate,thats why we diligantly make backups of our registry to "GOOD TIMEZ" :)
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kacevedo
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7. December 2005 @ 15:41 |
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I would like to know if anyone has a copy of the decrypter program?? Please I am in great need.My computer crashed yesterday and i lost it . It is a great program and I have a hard time using any other . Please get back to me thanks again . Acevedo777@msn.com
Thank all
karen
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JaguarGod
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7. December 2005 @ 21:13 |
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aabbccdd
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JaguarGod
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8. December 2005 @ 08:12 |
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@aabbccdd,
I noticed a strange thing about the updates. It wants to connect to something.microsoft.com (even with auto update off, it still tries to update if I launch the program on XP, since it really relies on Windows settings to stop auto-update). Luckily I have a firewall, so I do not have to worry about the auto updating.
Also, another thing that may help people out when ripping and burning, just disconnect from the internet. I didn't before, but I do now. Even if you do not do anything, there are still things going on that involves your internet connection, so it is just better to disconnet. I simply turn off my DSL modem when I do something involving a DVD. This is both safer and will reduce the potential of an error (I get lots of stuff blocked by my Firewall during the entire DVD Copying process).
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aabbccdd
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8. December 2005 @ 08:41 |
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your right JaguarGod, we def, dont want DVDD talking to the internet at this point ,so good advice everyone turn off your internet connection when using the program
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8. December 2005 @ 10:21 |
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Before, just out of paranoia, I'd disable my network connection (through which I connect to the 'net) but now I'm glad I did. :)
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19. December 2005 @ 17:50 |
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well weve all seen dvdd (R.I.P) dvdshrink dvdxcopy
when is it goin 2 be slysoft`s turn.
r.i.p DVD Decrypter the once ultimate dvd ripper :'(
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PCDAD
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20. December 2005 @ 02:06 |
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My copy of DVDD never trys to access the web i have autoupdates for XP turned off and the check for new updates automaticly is unticked so ive not seen any suspicious behaviour there.........
RIP DVDD
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. December 2005 @ 02:08
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davidl1l
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20. December 2005 @ 07:54 |
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i was useing dvd decyrip and shrink to do amatyville horror and when it got down to 5 files left it started to go up to 115 hours and 45 minutes...it kind of went crazy...also it wants to ask for internet access and im not sure why it does that...
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PCDAD
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20. December 2005 @ 12:51 |
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BIZARRE!!!! weird
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