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Nero CD-DVD Speed Quality & Media Questions?
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h2ouup2
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3. December 2005 @ 18:50 |
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What exactly are the PI Errors, PI Failures, Jitter? And what are acceptable, good, and great levels?
I had a Verbatim MCC 004 (000) 16X
Here is what DVD Identifier says about it:
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MCC-004-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC]
Media Type ID : [004]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x , 6x-16x]
I got a 15 on the Quality Score! I thought these were suppose to be good DVD's? I would take it this DVD won't be of much use soon? It does play in my DVD player btw.
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h2ouup2
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3. December 2005 @ 19:06 |
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Here is another disk:
General Information
Drive: SONY DVD RW DRU-710A
Firmware: BYX5
Disc: DVD+R (MCC 004)
Selected speed: 4 X
PI errors
Maximum: 113
Average: 24.94
Total: 363282
PI failures
Maximum: 4
Average: 0.39
Total: 7066
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 14:19
Number of samples: 129698
Average scanning interval: 1.10 ECC
Glitches removed: 0
Better, but still what does all this mean?
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3. December 2005 @ 19:11 |
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i suppose if there is a N/A after the word failure its a good thing :)
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3. December 2005 @ 20:03 |
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Go here http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/262544 for more information on high quality media vs crap/low quality scans. Anyways, below are my top media -- these scans are awesome, and is consider high quality, with only 2 PI Failures and a Quality Score of 95.
Here's the famous genuine Taiyo Yuden
Here's the top notch Verbatim
Here's the Maxell High Grade by Hitachi (made in japan)
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h2ouup2
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3. December 2005 @ 20:21 |
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Thanks. You think you have good media, only to find out you don't.....Oh well. Live and learn.
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4. December 2005 @ 03:04 |
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have teleported thread to the DVD Media forum :)
in addition to the other guys' replies, have a look at the first few replies from this link in my sig - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/193298 as it also has info/links to more info re PIF errors etc
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4. December 2005 @ 06:06 |
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@h2
what speed are you burning those MCC004's at? if you are burning @ max speed, meaning 16x, i would DEFINITELY consider slowing your burns down..that MAY be the reason WHY you are getting such a poor quality score~ :) i get great scans burning them @8x, just FYI~
give it a try, this is one of the few cases where i would NOT burn @ max speed, i have the same drive as you and all my scans of the Verb. 16x MCC004 is very similar to alkohol's w/ a quality score of 95~ :) ur max. PI failures should be 2, nothing higher...
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Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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h2ouup2
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4. December 2005 @ 10:03 |
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Burning at 4X.
I noticed if I look at a New DVD (burn side) I can see what looks like imperfections on every disk at the outer layer. This could be a defect in the mfg. process?
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4. December 2005 @ 10:07 |
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sure sounds like it if you SEE the "defect" visibly ON THE DYE itself~ :(
i don't think your particular batch is a "normal" one...since you stated Quote:
I can see what looks like imperfections on every disk at the outer layer
sounds like a "bad batch" to me, while this usually doesn't happen often, it DOES IN FACT happen with EVERY manufacturer out there from time to time~ :P
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
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4. December 2005 @ 10:24 |
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It could also be that you have something eunnung in the background .. a screensaver, an anti-virus mproggy, a pop-up blocker, a spyware blocker or even spyware. Any or all of these can cause imperfections in the burned surface ...
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h2ouup2
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4. December 2005 @ 10:31 |
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Did have Kaspersky, Spysweeper, ZAP, BOClean running in the background.
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4. December 2005 @ 10:57 |
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ok, guess catfreak nailed it RIGHT ON!! :) please disable these or turn them off PRIOR to your next burn~ :) very good catch catfreak :)
docTY~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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h2ouup2
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4. December 2005 @ 13:42 |
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You know when I use AnyDVD with CloneDVD I get perfect burns even with all the stuff running.
I only get the errors when using Nero Recode. Guess Nero needs more HP than CloneDVD.
Anyway I'll stop the above mentioned items next time I burn and see how Nero does then.
Thank you so much for all the replies.
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