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ChaseC
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7. December 2005 @ 17:24 |
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This is making me pull my hair out....Why in the world, when I convert an AVI to DVD format using either the TMPG method or something like DVD Santa, do the disks play on certain DVD players but not on others?? Say I can play them on a few Sony and Zenith players but not on some Panasonic or Samsung.
What is the difference between this converted DVD and one bought from a store? There must be a file or something keeping this from playing on all DVD players.
I've actually tried at least 5 or 6 different programs and none make the disk COMPLETELY compatible in all DVD players just like a normal DVD movie would be.
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ChaseC
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7. December 2005 @ 18:20 |
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Did some more research and seems to be something related to the bitrate and/or the burning procedure in Nero. Some said they had to burn it using DVD-ROM(UDF) mode. Will a DVD player actually read this format?
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 7. December 2005 @ 18:21
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7. December 2005 @ 18:20 |
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Its more than likely the format of the disc, some players will accept +R , some -R and some both. You can try booktyping the +R discs which will convert them to DVD-ROM which should be acceptable to most players. How do you booktype I hear you ask!! Just hold on and someone with a little more knowlege than I will answer you. In the meantime if you post your burners details it may speed the response.
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ChaseC
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7. December 2005 @ 18:24 |
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Thanks for the response. I'm using an NEC DVD-RW ND-2500A burner.
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ChaseC
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7. December 2005 @ 19:36 |
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Ok...if Nero gives me the option to burn a DVD-ROM is that the same as booktyping or is it another program setting? Also, does the disk format for DVD-ROM need to include the Video_TS and Audio_TS folders combined in ISO format?
Nero has DVD-ROM(UDF) mode and DVD-ROM(UDF/ISO) mode. Which one would I use?
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7. December 2005 @ 19:52 |
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Nero gives you the option to change a DVD+R to a DVD-ROM so if you are using the +R format and you find your standalone players prefer the -R format, that is when you booktype to a DVD-ROM. If you are using -R format then you dont need to booktype as it's already in the -R format.The Video_TS and Audio_TS folders are combined unlesss you want to watch a silent movie. You must be clear that discs come in 2 formats, +R and -R.(The -ROM is what you get after booktyping)
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7. December 2005 @ 20:13 |
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could be to do with the frame rates that you have as a setting...
some dvd player support only a certain frame rate for video (PAL or NTSC) you need to check that you have the standard compliant with your dvd player (and also the region of the disc you are trying to play)
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7. December 2005 @ 21:16 |
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@phantom69, I doubt whether it will be a region problem, it is unlikely he would have 2 different regional players, sounds more like format problem
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7. December 2005 @ 21:51 |
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do you mean format problems as in PAL or NTSC cause i agree with that however with the whole +R and -R because my dvd player was bought when they were first released an plays both + and _ so i doubt that would be the problem...
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7. December 2005 @ 22:01 |
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@phantom69, you mentioned the PAL, NTSC issue which I doubt it to be. It is strange but true that all players are NOT created the same I too have a player that accepts BOTH +R and-R and another that will NOT accept the +R format so I have had to booktype my existing +Rs to suit both.
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7. December 2005 @ 22:12 |
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fair enough...
i did not know that some players rejected + and - so now i know thanx for the info :)
"Its so hard to try to be different..."-Apocalypse Hoboken
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8. December 2005 @ 01:36 |
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ok...... it's been my experience that if a standalone player is having problems it could be a # of reasons why it won't play the disk:
1...disk incompatiblity with the standalone.
2...cheap media
3...burned at a too high of speed (keep it to 4x)
4...burned too close to the edge of the disk and the player doesnt' read it! (keep the compression no more than 4340kb so it doesn't go too close to edge)
5...solve a lot of your problems with incompatibility with booktyping a DVD+R to DVD-ROM.
here is a quote from BBMayo's page: Quote:
<12>What is Booktype /BitSetting?
Physically there is a difference between a DVD-R disc and a DVD+R disc that is made during the production process. During the production of a DVD-R disc the lead-in is pre-embossed (pre-written). This overwrites parts of the DVD that contains information about the disc. E.g. the CSS key (part of the copy protection) is in this part on commercial movie discs (This is why you can?t make a 1:1 copy of a DVD). But in this space there is also room reserved for the so called ?booktype? field.
Changing the booktype field
This booktype field identifies the disc as either a DVD-ROM, DVD+R(W) or a DVD-R(W) disc and is for a big part responsible for the compatibility. Because this setting is overwritten during the DVD-R production process it can?t be modified afterwards, the laser of your DVD recorder simply can?t write to that part of the disc. During the production of DVD+R discs the space is untouched. Still CSS keys can?t be written to DVD+R discs because every DVD recorder and DVD player has a limit in its firmware to write or read to this space. However, there is no limit for writing the booktype field. Therefor a DVD+R(W) recorder will be able to modify this field by sending a command to the DVD recorder and fool the DVD player.
When the booktype field (bitsetting) is changed to DVD-ROM then DVD players are fooled and will think the user has put in a DVD-ROM disc instead of a DVD+R disc and will read it accordingly. This results in an increased chance that the player is able to read the disc and that?s why the ability to change the booktype field (bitsetting) is essential to a lot of users. Certainly owners of a DVD player that requires this field to be set to DVD-ROM, in order to work properly, will prefer a DVD recorder that supports setting the booktype field.
Check out this link http://www.k-probe.com/bitsetting-booktype-faq.php
changes which make a difference to more acceptability:
1...use the disks (+Rs or -Rs or both) that is recommended by the manufacturer of your DVD player.
2...use good media, here is a guide: http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
3...keep the burn speed to 4x or at least half of the rated speed of the disk so there won't be read/write errors on your disk that will cause a problem playing the disk.
4... booktype your DVD+Rs to DVD-ROMs..... I use DVDInfo Pro to make all my DVD+Rs and DVD+RWs to read DVD-ROMs here is where you can download DVDInfo Pro: http://www.dvdinfopro.com/
this should help everyone to making more acceptable DVDs for most DVD players. enjoy!
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