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medialife
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15. December 2005 @ 21:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've always gone with dvd-r when buying media, but dvd+r seems cheaper and, from what I've read, pretty much equally compatible with standalone players. Am I missing something, or is dvd+r a better choice?

I've always gone with Ritek dvd-rs, but I haven't purchased dvds in awhile. Has Ritek's quality dropped at all, or are they still good?

What are dvd-rams? Why are they good for storing data?

Edit: Oh, also, is 16x worth the extra money over 4x? I'm looking at buying a new dvd burner and media. I don't want to spend a lot of money, but I rip and burn a lot of movies, so I'm thinking the extra cost might be worth it. Is it? I'd ask about 8x, but there doesn't seem to be much of a price difference between 8x and 16x stuff.

Perception is reality.

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16. December 2005 @ 02:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
medialife- Okay Here we go ! Assuming your comparing comparing apples to apples ! That is DVD-R & DVD+R media of equal quality the difference is practically nil ! DVD-R media still has a slight edge in compatability in some older players ! that being said DVD+R is almost as compatable! But if you have or are buyinga DVD burner that can BOOKTYPE your dvd media it then becomes about what & what ! Booktyping or Bitsetting as it sometimes is referred to basically fools your player into thinking it is reading a dvd-rom ( like a regular DVD movie) that being said to you may find it cheaper to repalce your players rather than but a new burner just to booktype your DVD+R media! on the dvd-ram question " DVD-RAM (DVD?Random Access Memory) is a disc specification presented in 1996 by the DVD Forum, which specifies rewritable DVD-RAM media and the appropriate DVD writers. DVD-RAM media are used in computers as well as camcorders and personal video recorders since 1998.

The term DVD-RAM is a misnomer based on the false assumption that RAM means the opposite of ROM (Read Only Memory). However, RAM stands for Random Access Memory (computer chips) and DVDs can inherently not use the random access method.

Compared with other writeable DVDs, DVD-RAM is more closely related to hard disk technology, as it has concentric tracks instead of one long spiral track. Unlike the competing formats DVD+R, DVD-R, DVD+RW and DVD-RW, you do not need special DVD burning software to write or read DVD-RAMs on a computer. DVD-RAMs can be accessed like a usual floppy disk or hard drive. " And on your 4x vs. 8 & 16x . Once again as long as you are talking about media of the same quality the rated speed of the media is almost irrelavent in the sense that you can burn 8X &16X media @ 4X if you wanted or at any speed up to it's rating! You can also burn some media at higher than it's rated speed on some drives ! This is called Overspeeeding ! an example would be burning 4X taiyo Yuden DVD-R disc @ 8X instead of it's rated 4x rating ! On the speed issue I've burned a few disc at 12x , a few at 8X and even 1 dvd+r disc @ 16x but I generally burn at 4x ! your next question will be why buy the higher speed media if I burn at 4x ? simple . 4X media is being Phased out ! nothings wrong with it as long as it's quality media! Ir's just that the Media Manufacturers are clearing out the 4x stuff to concentrate on 8 &16 X media ! You Can find 4X DVD-R Taiyo Yuden on-line reasonably priced but it's going to get harder& harder to find ! Another reason is availablity ! the 8X & 16X is easier to find at shops & stores ! Also using 8X &16X you have the option to burn it at the higher speed should you want too! Like having a car that can go 120 MPH. you may never actually drive it that fast ! but you could if you needed or wanted too see! On your Ritek Question I've just stocked up on Ritek G-O5's In the form of Maxell 8X DVD-R'S & OFFICEDEPOT 8x DVD-R'S only burned a couple so far * they seem okay to me ! & on the DVD BURNER front you may run into a similar thing you may find more 8 & 16X burners than say 4 or 12X and they cost is reasonable too! Hope this helps ! Happy HOLIDAYS & HAPPY BURNING!

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16. December 2005 @ 03:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@BigToxy.... you did a great job explaining everything.... I just want to add a few things: http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
read all about the media types that are out there. This media guide will tell you where your disk stands compared to other media manufactures! if you don't have DVDInfo Pro (free version) or DVDIndentifier (also free) get it in the software tag above! These programs will tell you what manufacturer your disk was made and then you can look it up in the Media guide in the link I just gave you.

Here's another good thread that helped me out when I was learning about DVDs: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/183136
you can find more and more information here just by doing what you've been doing.... just ask!

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16. December 2005 @ 03:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
IHoe Thanx just trying to help !
medialife
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16. December 2005 @ 07:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks. But... why wouldn't you use 8x or 16x every time you burn? Why do you only use it once in awhile?

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16. December 2005 @ 07:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am speaking on 8X and 16X rated media:

With some combinations (media/burner), 4X produces a higher quality burn, and with others, 8X does. With high quality media, such as Verbatim and Taiyo Yuden, 8X burns yield excellent results, but some users still prefer 4X either out of habit or maybe even because of a finicky standalone player or game console that doesn't "like" 8X burns. I think the consensus is to shy away from 16X as, generally, the faster the burn, the more likely you are to get errors. Bottom line is to find out what works best with YOUR setup... The higher the quality of the media, the more consistent your results will be...

Personally, I mainly use 8X Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim (and the occasional Maxell +R MIJ*), and I do all my burning at 8X with that media... I recently got some Ritek G05 that I'll do a little testing on...


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16. December 2005 @ 09:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
teflonmyk- Well , well & well said! Happy Holidays ! Happy Burning!
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