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lee73
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17. December 2005 @ 02:59 |
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hi,i know the basics of burning dvd's with nero, etc,but i have run into a problem that i'm not sure how to get around.I have successfully burned dvd files on my hd to disk with no probs,but i recently bought some 'less expensive'blank dvd-r disks(tdk) and for some reason i can't burn onto them,i tried burning the same project onto a dvd-rw disk beforehand and it was ok but when i tried with the tdk disks using nero i got error message(something like)could not perform start of disk at once,followed by burn failed at 2.4x
so basically i figure the media isnt compatible with either the nero burning rom or the recorder,can someone please help and let me know whether the problem is with the dvd recorder or nero and if there is any way around it,like maybe different burner etc etc
if you need more info please let me know the specifics
many thanks for your help
lee
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17. December 2005 @ 03:27 |
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lee73
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17. December 2005 @ 03:46 |
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thnaks mate,i give it a read but it doesn't really help,i read that tdk disks are poor,but is that it they are coasters and theres nothing i can do at all?
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17. December 2005 @ 04:26 |
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@lee73
It sounds like your burner doesn't like the tdk's. Make sure your firmware is up to date - this may help your burner 'burn' them. Your best bet is to pick up some better media - like the ty's or verbatims.
Post your last Nero log (make sure you remove the serial #'s) and we can see if something else is going on also.
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lee73
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17. December 2005 @ 05:13 |
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thanks binkie7,in future yes i will get the better disks
i dont know how to get a Nero log or check if firmware is up to date,sorry
i know the basics of burning ,but im not sure on any other aspect of it
any advice is welcomed
thanks lee
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17. December 2005 @ 06:53 |
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@lee73
Not a prob! Here's where you Nero log will be.
Go to: c:program files>ahead>nero>nerohistory.log.
Each burn log is separated by this:
===== *** NeroAPI, History File *** =====
Just copy and paste the last one. Edit out the serial # - they begin w/ 1A.
The log will tell us your drive, firmware etc. Post that and we should be able to sort it out for you!
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lee73
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17. December 2005 @ 07:42 |
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hey binkie7 thanks for the help,i really appreciate it
i hope this is the log info you need:
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 16/12/2003 17:18:04
Nero version: 6.3.0.2 (Nero Express)
Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A> Version: 2.04 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.0.2
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A >Version: 2.04 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.0.2
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST380012A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A D: CDRom0
Generic DVD-ROM E: CDRom1
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AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 39845888 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 247MB (253424kB)
Free physical memory: 26MB (26924kB)
Memory in use : 89 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
17.12.2005
UDF/ISO compilation
15:08:29 #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
DVD-Video files reallocation started
15:08:29 #2 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 540
Content of VIDEO_TS.IFO has been modified
15:08:29 #3 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 540
Content of VIDEO_TS.BUP has been modified
15:08:29 #4 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 540
Content of VTS_01_0.IFO has been modified
15:08:29 #5 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 540
Content of VTS_01_0.BUP has been modified
15:08:29 #6 Phase 113 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
DVD-Video files reallocation completed
15:08:29 #7 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6029
Iso document burn settings
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Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE
15:08:29 #8 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
DVD-Video files sorted
15:08:29 #9 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running
15:08:29 #10 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
15:08:29 #11 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
15:08:30 #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media
15:08:30 #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 1911791 (424:50.41, 3733MB)
15:08:30 #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Write in overburning mode: FALSE
15:08:30 #15 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085
Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: TTH02 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
15:08:30 #16 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
15:08:30 #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 779
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1911792 (1911792) = #1911792/424:50.42
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1911792 blocks [_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A ]
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15:08:30 #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 948
Prepare recorder [_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3915350016, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
1911792 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
15:08:30 #19 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Caching of files started
15:08:30 #20 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4073
Cache writing successful.
15:08:30 #21 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Caching of files completed
15:08:30 #22 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Burn process started at 2.4x (3,312 KB/s)
15:08:30 #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
15:08:30 #24 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 11:55,140 (715140ms) -> OK
15:08:30 #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1512
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
15:08:30 #26 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19451
Set BUFE: JustLink -> ON
15:08:30 #27 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1643
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
15:08:30 #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7941
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
60 00 10 20 30 40 50 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 `...0@P.........
02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
15:08:30 #29 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1171
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x53 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x1D 0x2B 0xF0 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05
15:08:30 #30 CDR -1046 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1573
Illegal disc
15:08:30 #31 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1573
Could not perform start of Disc-at-once
15:08:30 #32 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
15:08:30 #33 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,312 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 12/10/2005 11:07:41 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 05:59:42 (Adapter driver for rec)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
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17. December 2005 @ 09:51 |
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=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST380012A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
Turn your DMA on for this drive if you are using it to copy DVD's to a blank DVD, otherwise I recommend ripping to your hard drive first.
To turn on the DMA go here. http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/FAQ.htm
Try turning of the disk at once feature, this may help you as well,,,
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Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media
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Your memory usage is skyhigh, almost nothing left for the burn process...
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Physical memory : 247MB (253424kB)
Free physical memory: 26MB (26924kB)
Memory in use : 89 %
I would recommend updating your memory to at least 512 MB
Turn off all other programs using your task manager program
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17. December 2005 @ 09:55 |
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Just passin through.
You should also update your Nero. You are way behind. Should be 6.6.0.18
Cheers.
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17. December 2005 @ 11:21 |
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17. December 2005 @ 11:53 |
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lee73:
Than NEC burner should handle 4X or 8X TDK DVD-R (TTG01 or TTG02) without a problem, once firmware is updated. At work I have a 3 year old NEC 1300A that burns either of those disks at 4x.
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lee73
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17. December 2005 @ 12:39 |
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thanks for your help everyone
binkie7,i have read the instructions to download the latest firmware but when i get to the page where the download should be there's nowhere to press for it,it shows this:
NEC DVD-ROM Firmware Flash Utility Download
Please note: Firmware updates for NEC DVD drives will generally only add new media information and will not solve issues in conjunction with some software packages.
If the firmware upgrade is not performed correctly or if the power supply is interrupted during the upgrade, the drive may be rendered unusable. If you wish to upgrade the firmware, you do so at your sole and exclusive risk. NEC takes no responsibility for any errors or problems with any firmware upgrade. This software is provided "as is" with no warranty whatsoever. NEC will not supply any technical service or support regarding this firmware or any upgrade.
The NEC firmware upgrade below should not be used with external USB / FireWire drives or with OEM drives from HP, DELL, Medion, Fujitsu, Siemens, Gateway, or any other OEM manufacturer. If you wish to update the firmware on an OEM drive, please contact the dealer or manufacturer.
Download Firmware:
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17. December 2005 @ 15:42 |
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The link is missing. Try reloading the page or just navigate to it again. Make sure you follow the directions carefully. That's why they make you click on an acknowledgement that you have read the directions and provide you with an option to print them out.
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17. December 2005 @ 16:15 |
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@lee73
What's the brand of your pc? Or did you buy the drive directly? Firmware versions go in numberical/alpha order.
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lee73
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18. December 2005 @ 01:54 |
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ok first of all binkie7,my pc is emachines 3230
right i have managed to access the download
i have followed the instructions and determined it is my 'master' drive,however it comes up with the error box 'target NEC ND-2510A is not found correctly' in a pop up box,as shown in one of the instruction display boxes,but it says verify the correct drive,but the dropdown box in the original bigger box,is greyed out so i cant access it,also in the box where it should say'target drive is not found' it says instead'SPTI ready'
i think ive followed the instructions well enough i just cant see a way to resolve this problem
please help
ive also updated my Nero to 6.6,so with a bit of luck if i can get round this problem,i might be back almost there
thanks lee
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18. December 2005 @ 09:33 |
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Those errors can mean it doesn't see the drive or the firmware doesn't match the model. I'm still thinking that nec is the oem. So instead of guiding you the wrong way let me see who i can call in.
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18. December 2005 @ 10:13 |
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i'm here :)
hi, i'll just attack the logfile for now....and read the rest of the thread afterwards
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Nero version: 6.3.0.2 (Nero Express)
- Nero's too old, latest 6.x version is 6.6.0.18, download "update package 1" from here - http://ww2.nero.com/enu/nero-up.php
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Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A> Version: 2.04
- see here - http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1837
- if your burner is a 'proper' NEC drive, then the lastest firmware for your drive is 2.18; if your drive is a Dell OEM (ie is your PC a Dell, and if so did the burner come shipped with the PC?), in which case 205C is the firmware you need
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Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
- yup, Nero's too old to recognise your burner
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Physical memory : 247MB (253424kB)
Free physical memory: 26MB (26924kB)
Memory in use : 89 %
- 512MB is what i consider the minimum for dvd work. you should get more memory, and for now you're gonna have to dig deep to close down as much as you can to free up more memory
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Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: TTH02 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
- not very good discs
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Illegal disc
- see previous comment
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lee73
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18. December 2005 @ 14:24 |
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cheers binkie7 and creaky
first of all,ive already updated my Nero to 6.6.0.18
ive tried burning onto the same disk and it never worked
i can confirm that the cd/dvd rw is built into and came with my pc,which is an emachines 3230.
the main prob i have is what i said in the other post about the error box when trying the firmware update,so basically thats what i need to sort out how to do.
on a side note,i can just bin these cheap disks,but will i eventually have to get the firmware updated anyway,if so i would if i can get it sorted now that will be great
it seems that verion 2.18 is the latest update for my drive,so with that,what could i be doing wrong in the firmware update for the message i posted earlier?
thanks lee
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18. December 2005 @ 14:59 |
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@lee73
Did you disable the slave drive?
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lee73
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19. December 2005 @ 04:00 |
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binkie7,yes,i disabled the slave drive if the slave drive being the other sub category within cd/dvd rom drives from the device manager called 'generic dvd rom scsi cdrom device'
i also found another item within the device manager which the instructions said would be in control panel and to uninstall called intel(r) 8280 1db ultra ATA storage controller-24b,but kept needing rebooting and reinstalled itself
another thing i found was when trying the download flash,i tried from a direct download from the page and tried from saving it to my desktop then proceeding and found in properties that the file was blocked as it came from another computer but i unblocked it and tried again with no luck,from my understanding it seems ive followed all the insructions and even tried with other drives enabled and disabled but every time i get the same error,in the flash box it says 'spti ready',in the window,but then the pop up box always appears with'target NEC ND-2510A is not found correctly'i tried to close the popup box down and the first box closes with it so i cant enter any details in the flash box for correct drive etc
some things are not meant to be and unfortunaltely for me this seems to be one of them.
oh well,thanks for you time and help binkie7
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19. December 2005 @ 19:00 |
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@lee73
Sorry I couldn't be of more help. It seems the ata storage conroller is stopping you from udgrading your firmware. Check intel's site to see if there is any workaround.
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19. December 2005 @ 21:45 |
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i had a similar problem when i (briefly) had 2 Lite-on 1693S's. the only way i got firmware to update was by cheating, i hooked the drives up to another pc and voila, firmware done; then i jusgt put drives back in original pc
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