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Sammy22
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21. December 2005 @ 14:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
other than dvdxcopy (cant control write speed) any programs that will simply and efficiently split 1 DVD to 2 discs leaving menus intact??? Thanks
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Sammy22
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22. December 2005 @ 04:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There are quite a few (e.g. DVD Fab, Apollo DVD Copy).
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22. December 2005 @ 10:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's a thought - just use shrink (and decrypter). You can use reauthor mode and burn the movie only (no menus) onto disc 1. (This assumes that the compression levels are satisfactory for you).

Then load the original disc again and this time when you back it up, set the movie file to Still Image and that will free up much of the space.

This way your disc #2 will have the menus working and you can watch the extras, and disc #1 will have the entire movie (no menus).
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23. December 2005 @ 17:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Snorkel - reading the advice you gave to Sammy - thats good info - I did not even know about the whole still image thing - so you just gave me some insight also!


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23. December 2005 @ 17:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Appreciate the advice, but you miss the point. the only reason to go with 2 discs is because there would be too much compression to fit the movie on 1 disc. i consider anything over 10% too much. therefore i need programs to split the movie and special features to 2 discs without any compression involved. i tried dvdfab and it works good allows you to copy the 2 discs to files and then write with Nero with some control over write speed. you have to write with Nero after closing dvdfab because fab wont integrate with Nero despite the check box in the program to write with Nero. thanks all.
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23. December 2005 @ 19:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sammy22:

There are several methods for doing what you want. Mine is not any "better," it is merely the method that works the best for me.

I follow this procedure.

-I rip the entire disc to hard drive, using either DVDDecrypter in file mode, or else DVDShrink set for "no compression." I ignore the warning that the DVD might be too big to burn. I call this folder on the hard drive "original."

-I then use VOBBlanker to open that folder on my hard drive ("original"), and I blank out all extras, and also the second half of the main movie, at a chapter break, and I rip this result to a new folder on my hard drive (I call it "disc 1") Note that the main movie has no compression.

-I then re-open the result from the first rip in VOBBlanker (the folder called "original"). This time, I set it to just blank out the first half of the main movie. It keeps all of the extras, so they all appear on Disc 2. I then set it to rip this result into a new folder on the hard drive, called "Disc 2." Note that the second half of the main movie again has no compression.


-I burn the folder "Disc 1" to my first blank. (I use Nero, but any burner will do). Final result has no compression on the main movie.

-I burn the the folder "Disc 2" to my second blank. (I use Nero, but any burner will do) Final result has no compression on the main movie.

I end up with two discs. Both have NO COMPRESSION (beyond that used on the original DVD, of course). Both have ALL menus, and all of the menus work, to the degree that they can... Obviously, they can only access what is on that particular disc.

Disc 1 has all menus, and the first half of the main movie. It has every audio choice / soundtrack for the main movie, and also any director's commentaries, and also any subtitles. But only for the first half of that main movie. It ends at a chapter break, and then it reverts to the main menu. (I have recently begun inserting a still frame that directs the user to change discs, which VOBblanker is capable of doing, with ease. Obviously, this is only an option.)

Disc 2 has all menus, and the second half of the main movie. It begins at a chapter break. It has every soundtrack for the main movie, and also any director's commentaries, and also any subtitles. But only for the second half of that main movie. It ends at the end of the main movie, and then it reverts to the main menu, after a pause. It also has ALL of the other extras, deleted scenes, trailers, documentaries, etc. It uses no additional compression beyond that was on the original store-bought disc.

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Additional notes...

-VOBBlanker is free.

-VOBBlanker can look intimidating, when you first try it. You need a guide (a link will follow below) and you will then find this process is a piece of cake.

-There is a three to 7 second pause at the beginning of the main movie on disc two, if you do the above. I add one additional step, which takes perhaps 60 seconds, and it requires yet another (freeware) program. I use it to get rid of the pause, so the DVD player does not have to "cycle" through the missing chapters that are not on disc two. This step is completely optional, but it is so easy, I go ahead and do this. The program required is pgcEdit.

-Vobblanker scares many people off, unless they have a good guide. So does the program I use to get rid of the pause (pgcEdit). With a good guide, this entire process becomes easy, and routine. It admittedly takes longer than ripping a DVD5 to a DVD5. However, it takes less time than the compressing that most people are using with DVD-9 store-bought discs, and you end up with much better quality -- identical to the original.

Here is a link to the guide I use:

http://jsoto.posunplugged.com/guides/VobBlanker/splitdvd9/index.php

Note about the above...

The guide linked above assumes you have ripped the entire original DVD9 disc to your hard drive already. This can be done using DVDDecrypter, or DVDShrink (use whole disc mode, and change the compression rate to NO COMPRESSION and ignore the warning that it is too big). You can also use DVDFabDecrypter, if the disc has one of the latest forms of copy protection on it.

It also has a (completely optional) final part which gets rid of the "pause" which often occurs at the beginning of your second burned disc. This final step is so easy, I have used this option every time.

I have also been using one additional step... I use VOBBlanker to insert a still frame at the end of the first disc, so a frame pops up for 15 seconds, which urges users to "Please Insert Disc 2." This step is NOT outlined in the guide, but it is so easy I figured it out on my own, after using this method about four times. Look for the button that says "Replace" and use it on the chapter which follows the last chapter on Disc One.

Again, the final results are as follows:

-Two discs.
-Both discs have all of the menus. All menus continue to function.
-Both discs have every audio stream intact (foreign languages, DD 5.1, ACS 2.0, DTS, whatever was on the original). The same, for all subtitles.
-Disc one begins with any main menu, and has all sub-menus available. It contains the first half of the movie, and ends at a chapter break (except mine then adds an attractive "change discs" frame). It begins at the Main Menu, and has all sub-menus available. It contains the first half of the main movie. The main movie has NO COMPRESSION.
-Disc two begins again with any main menu, and has all sub-menus available. It contains the second half of the movie, and begins where the first disc ended, at that chapter break. There is no pause if you access "play" or if you try to access a chapter which was on disc 1 (it jumps right to the first available chapter). This second disc also has every "extra." Although you can easily blank anything you do not wish to sit through... and you can preview any material easily to determine this. The main movie has NO COMPRESSION -- beyond what was on the original store-bought DVD.

If anyone needs info on the only thing not covered in the guide -- the insertion of the still frame to tell you switch to a second disc -- let me know, and I can add this info in this thread.

-Bruce
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24. December 2005 @ 04:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Bruce thanks for the time in putting this together. I just want to add though that I could do what you suggest but it seems a little involved and time consuming. I am looking for the quickest most efficient way to do this and that is why dvdfab may be the ticket. Thanks
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24. December 2005 @ 05:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Sammy,

There are several ways you can acomplish this task here are just a few examples.

1. CloneDVD2 http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/1FOR1%20BACKUP%20CLONEDVD&ANYDVD.pdf

2. DVD Shrink http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/1for1%20copy%20w%20shrink&decrypt...

Both are pretty easy to use. The second one is all free proggys though, but the first way is probably the simpelest.

Later



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Mayo, thanks much. I have clonedvd2 and this is an incredible find for guide. i did not know clone was so powerful. the guide is a little tricky because it tells you to move the tick over one from the listed chapter (at 100%), but in reality you just start the tick at that chapter listed because it is the removed chapter. for instance in my case i moved the slider to chapter 14 (removed)(which indicated 100%) and then i would need to start the slider for the next run at 14 because it was removed and not 1 tick over to the right (which would be 15). thanks again
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I'm glad I could help and you have a Merry Christmas :-)



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