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AhrenBa
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22. December 2005 @ 14:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello,
I would like to backup copies of a few of my copy-protected PC games. I have Alcohol 120% and A-Ray Scanner. I scanned my game, and it says it has SecuRom protection on it. I then go Alcohol 120% and make an image. Then I burn it to a disk, put it in the drive and wait. It brings up the game screen, then says I have to make sure the game disc is in the drive. It kept doing this until I downloaded Daemon-Tools and ran the Emulator.

Is there a way to burn copy-protected games and play them with out the need for an emulator? Thanks
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AhrenBa
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24. December 2005 @ 06:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey,
Thanks for the input. One thing that I was wondering is the exact definition of a "1:1 copy"? Is that where the burned copy is the exact same as the original disc and no emulation is needed to play? Also, how do I tell if I have a "good burner" or which burners indeed are good for this?

Does the type of burner alone determine if you could make a 1:1 copy successfully? Or what does?

Thanks for your help! I appreciate it.
AhrenBa
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24. December 2005 @ 14:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, cool. Thanks again. I have found out Warcraft III is SecuRom. I have sucessfully made a backup of this game with Alcohol 120% except I could only do it with emulation running.

So basically, what you are saying is pretty much all new games have to be copied and ran with emulation in order to work? Right? It's pretty much impossible to run a new game without emulation? Thanks for the help.

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24. December 2005 @ 14:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Most burners cannot create a true 1:1 copy of Securom Protected games except Plextor premium burner (im not sure of the exact model of the Plextor but I can get it if needed)

With Alcohol you can enable emulation aswell.

I personally use A-ray scanner to determine all my backups so you are on the right path.
AhrenBa
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25. December 2005 @ 18:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, cool, thanks for the help guys. One thing I basically am still unsure on is it basically impossible to make a 1:1 copy of new games?? If not, are certain copy protections easier? What determines if you can make a 1:1 copy? Thanks
AhrenBa
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26. December 2005 @ 05:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, well at least thats good to know. Thank you!

Lets say if I did have a Plextor Premium and wanted to make a 1:1 copy, how would you go about doing that? Same way as you do it normally? (use A-ray to detect copy-protection, then use Alcohol 120% to make the image and burn) Or is there any settings you have change around to make it a 1:1? Thanks
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26. December 2005 @ 07:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A I stated earlier
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Most burners cannot create a true 1:1 copy of Securom Protected games except Plextor premium burner
Reason for this is, most if not all cannot write bit patterns back to the cd-r like the Plextor premiuim can, this is why there is "Emulation"...sucks I know but this is how the world works (In technology)

It also sucks that these newer protections (Securom 7 and Safedisc4) require some type of tool to be able to play your backups, Alcohol Has been a bit slow (as well as clonecd) in developing a newer datatype to create an actual working backup without the use of these tools.

-jjssj- gave some excellent links so take full advantage of them.
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26. December 2005 @ 11:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey jjssj

what r the files in the website? are they the files to the games?
http://www.gameburnworld.com/gameburnworld.htm

Also can CloneCD do the same thing as Alcohol 120?

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26. December 2005 @ 19:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I cant seem to download A-ray scanner anywhere. Does any1 know where I can get it?
AhrenBa
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26. December 2005 @ 19:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can get A-Ray here.

http://www.aray-software.com/index.php?showtopic=74

Simple google search brought it right up.
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27. December 2005 @ 17:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@AhrenBA
I did search in on yahoo but the link, "Windows Installer", isnt working. Ur probably thinking why dont i just download rar but i dont have a program to extract it.

@jjssj
Gotcha..thx for the help
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27. December 2005 @ 17:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
is Alcohol free?
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27. December 2005 @ 18:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No, but you can get a 30day trial period. If you like it and it suits your need then you ahould purchase it :)
AhrenBa
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28. December 2005 @ 05:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nope, I think I have a pretty good idea now. Thank you all for your help. One last thing, from what I understand using a Plextor Premium is the easiest way to make a 1:1 copy, right? Thanks again.
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31. December 2005 @ 10:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
can i use daemon tools instead of alcohol?
If not, what other programs can i use?

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1. January 2006 @ 11:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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AhrenBa
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1. January 2006 @ 15:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am not exactly sure what you are asking. Could you elaborate a bit more? Thanks :)
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2. January 2006 @ 12:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was asking what other programs can do the same things that Alcohol 120 does? or is it the only software of its kind?
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2. January 2006 @ 14:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
After downloading the "Game Protection Identifying Tools", how do you open the file? It only lets you download a ".rar" and I don't know how to open them.

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2. January 2006 @ 17:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In order to open a .rar file, u need an extractor like 7-zip (which u can get from download.com for free)
AhrenBa
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3. January 2006 @ 05:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, Daemon Tools can do mounting of images and run copy protection emulation alike Alcohol 120%, but it can not make images, burn images, or do any of the advanced things Alcohol can do. I use a combination of Alcohol 120% and Daemon Tools.
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3. January 2006 @ 05:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does Daemon Tools search for copy protections like aray scanner does?

So from reading this post, I assume i only need Alcohol 120 and aray scanner to backup pc games.
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3. January 2006 @ 15:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I want to backup my pc games but i dont want to pay $50 (for alcohol 12) because i dont have that much. Are there any other alternatives?
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4. January 2006 @ 15:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
finding a crack is as impossible as finding a cure for cancer.there are no battlefield 2 cracks honestly every single one says no memory.dll and razor1911 is a complete virus.there is no swat 4 crack.and there's no worms 4 crack.goddamn i've been on google looking for days.if anyone has the information that is killing many people over this please share.dont tell me gamecopyworld cuz thats site SUCKS b#@!s
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4. January 2006 @ 16:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
im trying to find a crack for alcohol right now...ill let u know if i find one.

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