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French lawmakers support file sharing
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article published on 22 December, 2005
French lawmakers have shocked the rest of Europe today by endorsing amendments to legislation that was designed to fight digital piracy. Instead, the amendments would make the sharing of copyrighted music and movies online completely legal if a user was willing to pay a monthly royalty fee of only a few euros. Under the original proposals, those caught pirating copyrighted material would ... [ read the full article ]
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neo1000
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22. December 2005 @ 17:38 |
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Now that`s working for the people.
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Spoilage
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22. December 2005 @ 18:08 |
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WAH WAH, I wont get millions of dollars cuz I sing a stupid song, WAH WAH.
Cry your eyes out bitch. This is the new economy. Live with it. Go tour the country to make money. Its called working for a living.
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22. December 2005 @ 19:06 |
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now that government's run by the people now by big multination corporation it's call for a celebration.
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22. December 2005 @ 19:12 |
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France is cool.
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dubire
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22. December 2005 @ 23:12 |
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fair play to the french they stand up for what is best for there people unlike the usa where all the goverment has been bought. these artists should be made aware take what your given or people will and now are just taking it for free
Ireland
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gtnheimer
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23. December 2005 @ 00:20 |
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First of all, this law has no chance of passing when all 577 of France's lower house parliment members return in January, most of which are of the government which supports the large penalties and jailtime for pirating copyrighted material.
This was more of a stick-it-to-the-man vote, which barely passed 30-28. However, it was certainly a warranted protest as the previously proposed DADVSI bill would idiotically criminalize any software that could be used to share copyrighted material and would virtually eliminate well-established fair-use laws, criminalizing back-up and reproduction of purchased material for private use.
Both laws are in no way fair, as one grossly inhibits open-source and independent software development and personal rights and the other allows for unbridled sharing of (let's not call it "intellectual") "creative" property for a pitiful about 8.50$ US a month royalty fee for admitted sharers.
As is the norm, moderation appears to be the solution. However, copyright holders will never stop complaining about file sharing, and though file-sharers claim to be willing to pay if the entertainment industry were only up to date with there technological needs, most are just freeloaders who are going to keep downloading for free until capitalism finally prevails.
Even with the intro of iTunes, Rhapsody, etc., sharers still complain of having to buy an album for a few songs(eliminated by online track purchasing) and artists complain about not recieving enough from online sales, mostly because only a few of their songs get downloaded. Also, complaints about the high prices of poor quality of songs and albums are illogical, because if they charge too much, no one will buy and the artist won't survive. If you pirate a song that is apparently too crappy for your 99 cence, you're only perpetuating the arguement against p2p as a bunch of freeloading hipocrits.
The seemingly feasable solution would be to offer consumers legal downloads of music and movies without any copy protection crap on it (which only angers customers and can be easily cracked anyways). Unfortunately, most p2p users are just using p2p because it provides free entertainment, so the real problem lies in the moral fiber of the average person, which when hidden behind a lucrative IP address apparently degrades, a sad commentary on the human race. On the same note, the record labels and studios won't even tolerate personal backups. Because the bigwig side won't reckognize personal rights and the p2p mass won't pay for what isn't rightfully theirs, no end to this battle is in sight and it will certainly yeild more arrests, fines, and legislative and judicial battles before it is ever settled.
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rcaudwell
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23. December 2005 @ 00:24 |
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Never underestimate the lengths the French Government will go to to p!ss of the USA
Suprised there isn`t a clause in this bill to force people to download a certain percentage of french language content though!!!
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23. December 2005 @ 10:27 |
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Well said Spoilage.
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23. December 2005 @ 11:18 |
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23. December 2005 @ 11:39 |
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lol go france.
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Chris1000
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23. December 2005 @ 18:22 |
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$8.50 a month is better than nothing! Frankly, once you added up that $8.50 x 12 months x 80 million file-sharers (if the other countries got into the act), that's another 9.6 billion dollars going into the pockets of the people who make the products.
That is MORE than enought money to compensate them for a little filesharing, considering that most of the people who fileshare, listen or use something once, find out they don't like it, and delete it off their hard drives.
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MrSosa
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24. December 2005 @ 03:48 |
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i'm french so that's all good :-)
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phantom22
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24. December 2005 @ 04:11 |
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FROGS RULE
well done i must say this is a new step forward considering all the problems suprnova and bittorrent are having! im so much happier now im goin to come live in france:P
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sssharp
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24. December 2005 @ 15:03 |
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I believe that if a monthly charge is applied artist should cry with joy. Under the current situation they receive no money from filesharing. Receive a percentage or receive nothing, which side should they choose? It sounds very good for the future, but the true voting after the new year will kill the possibility because they will be persuaded by the big name companies.
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sssharp
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24. December 2005 @ 15:14 |
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I would like to also say if people were charged a monthly fee to use the filesharing service that would drop it faster than lawsuits. People dont want to pay anything and a monthly fee will push more people away from it.
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EWAT
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25. December 2005 @ 10:24 |
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Interesting but the puppets in the US Congress are at it again, without their brains recharged, which, of course is the norm for them:
See:
By Robert X. Cringely...
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051222.html
Snippets:
...looking at H.R. 4569, the Digital Transition Content Security Act of 2005, which proves the point I've made many times over the years, that when it comes to technology, government doesn't really know what it is doing. H.R. 4569, which was introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives on December 16th, is intended to protect the intellectual property rights of movie studios by MAKING ANALOG-TO-DIGITAL CONVERSION ILLEGAL.
Under the Act as proposed, manufacturers will have one year after passage to stop making devices that convert analog signals like music and video into digital forms...
What this is about, then, isn't making it illegal to use a digital recorder to record from analog microphone. Heck, that would destroy the music industry. Congress's thinking (if we dare call it that -- I see no flashes of synapses firing)...
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20051222.html
...By Robert X. Cringely
But on the bright side, Christmas is over and perhaps, their wish was for a brain, as the scarecrow wished for on the Wizard of Oz and hopefully they received their brain.
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dcalduk
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27. December 2005 @ 14:03 |
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I am so pleased that the French have stuck by the principals of fair play to file sharing,unlike the British government who bow and scrape to every european legislation however stupid and incompetent they may be.The French at least,appear to regard the EU parliament as it has become ,a posturing place for the British political correctness,followed with glee by other EU national leaders as a clever way of controlling the common herd whilst relieving them of the freedoms and won at a heavy cost by the common man.
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rogerinfr
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28. December 2005 @ 03:59 |
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Now I live in France, EITHER the french govt misread the doc OR they have an ulterior motive. At the present there is a massive tax on all recordable material. Its a whole lot cheaper to buy it in the UK. I am guessing that they think they can jack up taxes somewhere. On PC's, hard drives, MP 3 players. This is not the way that the french govt normally play it!!
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MrSosa
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28. December 2005 @ 04:26 |
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^^^co-sign
bonjour ŕ toi cher compatriote!
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britfin
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29. December 2005 @ 08:39 |
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At last a forward thinking government.
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rogerinfr
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30. December 2005 @ 04:20 |
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After reading several times the "French connection", if I have gotten it right, the french govt slap a ?15 tax per month on everybody with an internet connected computer!!
I think thats how I read it. Comments people please?
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m_towell
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30. December 2005 @ 21:15 |
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It's about time the French did something right!
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angeli15
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30. December 2005 @ 21:46 |
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go France!!! but what's with the monthly fee! i say go all the way free!!!
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mistyguam
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1. January 2006 @ 02:57 |
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for all the crap that France has been through even by government hating on the USA, I have to admit, this is one of the best things I have heard.
*moving to France*
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Quagm1r3
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1. January 2006 @ 21:32 |
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Go France!
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