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loren
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30. December 2005 @ 06:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Attempted to create a backup as folows:
1. ran dvdfab decrypter and saved the movie to the hard drive
2. ran dvd shrink.
3. burned both the audio_ts and video_ts directories from the hard drive to a blank Verbatim DVD+R


The movie plays perfect on my pc's dvd drive, but will not play on the dvd player connect to my tv.
Tried it on another tv/dvd player with same result.
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laddyboy
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30. December 2005 @ 06:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
At what speed did you burn the disk?

Was it booktyped to DVD-ROM?

loren
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30. December 2005 @ 06:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I remember the speed was not selectable but I think it was around 2x. Used Roxio.

What do you mean by 'booktyped?'
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30. December 2005 @ 06:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not all players will play +R media, you need to booktype the disk to DVD-Rom so those players can play it. You can only do this if your burner is capable of booktyping, only certain burners have the ability. Check here to see if your standalone player is capable of playing +R media.

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers

Roxio is not the greatest program to use for burning, you would be better if you used Nero if you have it.


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laddyboy
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30. December 2005 @ 06:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Most burning programs during the burn process can bitset a disk to tell a player what type of disk it is. By booktyping as a DVD-ROM it tells the player to treat it like a commercial disk. This tricks many older players into playing an otherwise unrecognized disk.

Was this by chance a +R DL disk? Those won't play on most standalones without booktyping.

Download DVD Identifier from my sig below and report back the media code of the burned disk. Also see what the media and booktype are? I think the types are in square brackets [ ] [ ].

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30. December 2005 @ 06:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Also, what is the make and model of your burner?


loren
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30. December 2005 @ 08:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The results from this same pc/dvd writer/verbatim DVD+R always worked fine on my stand alone DVD/TV using DVDXcopy xpress, so I don't think the problem is in the hardware...
In any case the DVD writer is an NEC ND-1100a

And the DVD's are Verbatim 4.7gb 1x-8x (NOT dual layer)





Below is the info from your program:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MCC-003-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD-ROM]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC]
Media Type ID : [003]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [Not Supported By Method 2]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]
[Method 2 Might Not Always Detect All Speeds]
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** WARNING : Format 11h (Method 1) Is Recommended ADIP Retrieval Method
** WARNING : Format 00h (Method 2) Data Might Contain Drive Modified Values
** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 00h (Method 2) - Physical Information (Copy Of ADIP)
0000 : 01 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 e2 1f 00 00 00 00 .........%......
0010 : 00 00 03 4d 43 43 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 33 00 38 ...MCC.....003.8
0020 : 23 54 37 12 02 42 6e 02 a8 6b 15 15 0b 0b 08 08 #T7..Bn..k......
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 2d 65 1c 06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 ..88.-e...#.....
0050 : 00 00 02 2d 65 1c 06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 00 00 ...-e...#.......
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 2f 64 67 20 14 0b 0b 01 20 00 00 ..Tp./dg .... ..
0070 : 00 00 02 42 5d 66 20 14 0b 0b 01 20 00 00 00 32 ...B]f .... ...2
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
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[ DVD Identifier V4.2.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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30. December 2005 @ 09:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
Used Roxio
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The results from this same pc/dvd writer/verbatim DVD+R always worked fine on my stand alone DVD/TV using DVDXcopy xpress
Try another burning program other than Roxio and see if the backup works. Make sure the fw on the 1100A is up to date.

http://support.necsam.com/optical/downloads//FlashFirmware/






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30. December 2005 @ 09:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Usualy this problem derives from DVD's burned at higher than 4X speed. The second major reason is the booktyping of them. Both theese suggestions are already mentioned before. Verbatim 8X or 16X 4.7 GB are excellent. Toshiba's many models of stand alone players have problem for non commercial (stamped) discs. Check your equipment. As far it concerns Roxio's application never used.
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30. December 2005 @ 10:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As far as I know the 1100a does not booktype unless you got hacked firmware I know my 1300a won't.


laddyboy
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30. December 2005 @ 10:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's a really old burner and you're going to run into problems with a lot of the newer media because there are no more firmware updates for that old burner and the drive is going to have problems dealing with some of it.

loren
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30. December 2005 @ 11:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for that info laddyboy.
Just what I needed to hear lol
laddyboy
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30. December 2005 @ 11:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Loren, the good news is that a brand spanking new drive capable of burning at lightning fast speeds and double layers to boot is only $40US and an internet purchase away. :) We don't recommend burning at max speed, 4X or half the rated media speed.

loren
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30. December 2005 @ 12:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Guys,
You've been very helpful and given me plenty of food for thought. I'm going to consider Nero, and if that doesn't help, may upgrade the NEC. I didn't realize new fast dvd writers are so cheap.
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30. December 2005 @ 15:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good luck, upgrading may just be the answer. As I stated I have a NEC 1300A which is just a step above yours I still use it but have much newer and better drives now and if you go to NewEgg you will get one at a very reasonable cost.


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