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4 months after burning dvd's
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9. January 2006 @ 14:14 |
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Has anyone had problems with their discs and dvd players 4 or more months after you have been ripping and burning movies on dvd. I have had alot of trouble with them NOW not when I first burnt them, they were perfect copys I have been burning for a while so I have it down pat. I will explain what happens when I play some of them now and NO they haven't got scratches I look after them well, they start to skip and freeze and seize the machine all together so I have to turn off the dvd player at the power. They sometimes have little squares come acroos the screen and then skips. I have now gone through 2 dvd players They start to skip original dvd's aswell so I have concluded that copied dvd's stuff your dvd players. BUT with saying that I still backup or copy my discs. Also I use prince dvd's or Ridata/Ritek from Brizzo.
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9. January 2006 @ 14:46 |
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PRINCO nor prince a minor correction.And I also only ever use shrink then decrypter to burn out. Thanks from Brizzo
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woodbane
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9. January 2006 @ 17:14 |
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Any chance you've been using labels on your discs? If so, then that is the cause of your problem.
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9. January 2006 @ 18:00 |
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Printable discs I use and yes I do print on them. But this is not the problem as I have only just started doing this with my new printer and I didn't even label the others. I have since changed from princo to maxmax and ritek/ridata. I have been told in another AD forum that princo are crap and THIS may be the reason. Thanks
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9. January 2006 @ 18:08 |
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I have been told in another AD forum that princo are crap and THIS may be the reason.
Yup, for all those posters out there who use cheap media and claim to have no problems let this be a lesson. Never Heard of MaxMax and Ritek/Ridata have been losing favor as of late. Some quality media would include Verbatim, Taiyo Yuden or Sony, Fuji, Maxell(made in Japan).
I would have to say that your problems are due to the media that you were using.
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9. January 2006 @ 18:08 |
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It may be your media. I use ritek/ridata,Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden only. I don't know what speed you are burning at, but I only burn at 4x. You may want to try a slower burn speed and see if that helps.
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9. January 2006 @ 18:58 |
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I definitely won't be using princo anymore I will use ritek instead because here in Australia we can't buy Taiyo Yuden discs. I can only buy whats on ebay. Thanks
One extra question how are you inserting pictures into your text?
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9. January 2006 @ 19:02 |
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ALSo just to get the record straight down here princo isn't cheap ritek are the same price.
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10. January 2006 @ 03:39 |
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I wasn't referring to the price, I was referreing to the quality.
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JacobS1
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10. January 2006 @ 07:14 |
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hey, how does printing affect it, i have been haveing some problems recently, i use datawrite titanium printible +r's and burn at 8x
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10. January 2006 @ 08:04 |
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Has anyone else had problems with Ritek and Verbatim? For a long time they were the only media I would use. They always burn great and for a while, they play fine. But, try to play them after they set for a few months and they skip, show the little squares, and freeze. I won't use anything but Taiyo Yuden, now. I hope they don't have a nasty surprise for me some day.
Brizzo, can't you get Taiyo Yuden through supermediastore.com? I believe they take international orders???
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11. January 2006 @ 03:13 |
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@jacobS1
Print on discs won't do any harm, it's only not advisable to use stick on labels. Not sure about the Datawrite discs...what is the MID?
@LarrySr
Ritek has long been considered to be excellent media here at AD, but as of late the quality has gone down hill a bit. I hope they can turn their troubles around and start climbing back up to the top of the hill.
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11. January 2006 @ 12:42 |
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Thanks for that good advice. I will give suoermedia a try. I will stick to Ritek for the time being or pay the extra for vebatim. from Brizzo
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tlaw
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11. January 2006 @ 13:33 |
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I have been using Verbatim printable DVD+R for quite a while with no problems.
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11. January 2006 @ 14:17 |
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brizzo>
you said that your player is doing the same thing with your original DVD also, so the problem has to be your player, not your media.
Have you tried the backup copies you made in a DIFFERENT player. If you don't have an extra DVD player in your house, maybe try them at a friends house. Then you would know for sure.
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jontopia
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11. January 2006 @ 14:44 |
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Have you tried cleaning the lens of your dvd burner. Also , the more you use something the more it degrades. Things get worn out. You could also try burning at slower speeds I never burn a dvd faster than 4x
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12. January 2006 @ 13:37 |
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I have 5 dvd players in my home one for each room with a tv in it and they are less then 6 months old. 3 are now playing up with all dvd's since I have een playing burnt discs on them. They may just need agood head clean..........I'm a little worried about some of my discs skipping, freezing and pixellated squares showing up as alot are family videos and I also do school occasions on dvd for my students. I'm also the person who presents things for public viewing and have been totally embarrassed when my brand new burnt disc skips and freezes when half way through at an event or graduation ceremony (this happened at a major graduaton ceremony resently)I have since swapped from princo to NOW using RITEK (hopefully this will be my problem DISCS). But that still doesn't answer the overall question. Does burnt dvd's destroy dvd players over a time? I'm fine with replacing them once a year they aren't very expensive BUT I have now banned all my family from playing them on their xbox machines as they aren't cheap.
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jontopia
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12. January 2006 @ 15:42 |
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a dvd disk will degrade a lot quicker then your dvd player.assuming you take care of both. Pit errors and land errors are common on burnt dvds .The best thing you can do is use good media ,clean both your dvd player and burner on a regular basis and burn at slower speeds .Never burn a dvd at maximum. So to answer your question Do burnt dvds destroy your dvd player the answer is... No
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homeg269
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12. January 2006 @ 18:35 |
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so sticking a label on your dvds is not something we should be doing? does that make your dvds unplayable in the dvd player after a while?
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12. January 2006 @ 19:37 |
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homeg269>
it is possible. The concern is the chemical in the marker or the
chemical in the glue on the label. Over time, this could affect the playability of the DVD.
I myself, would not use stick-on type lables, not because of the chemical, but because of the balance. If the label is not centered, it makes it hard on your player, and could cause skipping or pausing durning playback, or worse, it won't play at all.
There are quite a few topics in this forum on this issue. You could do a search and find more info if needed.
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woodbane
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13. January 2006 @ 03:37 |
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I read an excellent thread over at http://forum.digital-digest.com/index.php that went into lengthy discussion around labelling of backup discs. I had been using NEATO labels with a 'stomper' device for centering and almost ALL of my discs would pixellate and stutter after about an hour of playback.
One guy had done some seriously scientific experiments to figure out what was the cause of this and came up with what I consider to be sensible answers (given I have a scientific background as well). There seem to be two factors that cause labelled discs to skip and surprisingly balance isn't one of them.
Firstly, all labels use adhesive to stick to the top surface of the disc. As this dries, it contracts and causes 'bowing' of the disc surface. It's practically impercetible to the human eye but is enough to cause the laser in your DVD player to lose track of the data on the disc, hence causing the stuttering and freezing up.
Secondly, the other main culprit appears to be heat dissapation, particularly with some older DVD players. Most labels are made from relatively heavy paper material, and paper is a very poor conductor of heat. (Why do you think they wrap up fish and chips in newspaper in the UK?) As your disc is spinning in your playyer it is generating heat. The label seems to retain this heat and in some cases causes the player to overheat and lead to playback issues.
I did some basic confirmatory tests to try this guys theory and got the following results: discs with labels on would play fine IMMEDIATLY after the label application. Within a week however, they would be skipping and stuttering, almost always after about 45-60 minutes of playback. When I took the labelled discs out og my DVD player they were HOT to the touch, conversely my originals did not suffer from this problem. I backed up the same movie twice and labelled one disc and not the other; the result was that the labelled disc was trash after 48 hours once the label had dried fully, the non-labelled disc was fine.
My ultimate decision was to stop using labels, I ahven't had any problems with skipping since.
EDIT: The exact post is here: http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=54303&highlight=...
I thought it was very good, look for the posts by 'dvdshare' as they go into the mechanical stress issue.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 13. January 2006 @ 03:59
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homeg269
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13. January 2006 @ 05:08 |
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what do you guys think of permanent markers?
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13. January 2006 @ 06:31 |
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I think they are a good alternative to adhesive labels, but I much prefer my epson r320 and printable media combo.
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13. January 2006 @ 17:45 |
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I have an epson R210 and use printable discs but I have only been doing the printing for less then a month the printers only new. NEVER use an acid based dvd marker. Make sure you read the fine print on the markers some brands say they a acid free for use on media but be careful they DO corrode the discs. With all your very helpful advice I have concluded that it was PRINCO media that is to fault NOT my players or burning equipment (as I always burn at 4x). THANKS AGAIN
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