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What causes pixelation, hanging and freezing
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heraldo2
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19. January 2006 @ 17:52 |
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I am using DVD FABEXPRESS, ANYDVD, with a AOPEN 1608ARR Burner.
Fuji DVD+R. Movies are hanging and freezing with a lot of pixel flash. What can I do to fix this problem. I have upgraded the firmware drivers etc.
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19. January 2006 @ 18:21 |
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The 2 most common causes of problems that you are experiencing are poor quality media or burning too fast. ID your disc's with this free proggy http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/ and let us know the make and media code. What speed are you burning at?
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heraldo2
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19. January 2006 @ 19:55 |
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Disk & Book Type N/A
Manufact: Ritek Corp
Manufact ID : Ritek
Media Type ID: R03
Product Version: 002
Blank disc Capacity:2,295,104 Sectors=4.74GB
Recording Speed:1x-2.4x, 4x, 6x-8x
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19. January 2006 @ 19:57 |
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what about the speed you are burning at? try 4x.
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19. January 2006 @ 22:58 |
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try better media Taiyo Yuden and or Verbatim are top choices in here. burn a 4x also DONT run anyother programs while burning
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jburden78
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20. January 2006 @ 07:37 |
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Do Not Use Paper Stick On Labels, and also reduce the file size to 4300 or below before burning to prevent "Burning Too Close To The Edge".
As well as what was mentioned in the above posts.
JBurden
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heraldo2
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20. January 2006 @ 14:24 |
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I think I was burning at the fastest speed 52X, that is what was checked when I checked the properties. I just changed it to 16X. I will try that and see what happens.
THANKS ALL
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20. January 2006 @ 14:27 |
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16X is still far too fast, most people burn at around 4x.
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20. January 2006 @ 14:44 |
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@heraldo2
52x is for cd's - haven't seen a burner yet to go this fast for dvd's!! 16x is the max for burners right now. Don't burn at max even w/ quality media.
Lower it to 4x as the others suggested.
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brobear
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20. January 2006 @ 15:08 |
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Ritek may not be on the A list, but it's still considered a good media. So don't be surprised if all your problems don't disappear with just a media change. With high quality media and good equipment you can go faster, but you only save a few minutes on a burn. Take the advice and go with 4X for burning DVD movies till you at least have everything working well. My burner will allow 12X burns on good 8X media, but I still stay about 6X with video. Burn speed is normally limited by the media used unless there is a slow drive in use. As mentioned, 16X is tops for the DVD media and there's not much of it floating around yet. Most of what is in the stores now is 8X. After all that, if you're still having problems, go to http://www.slysoft.com and download the CloneDVD2 trial and give it a spin. You already have the AnyDVD. That will tell you if it's a software problem or not. Also, if you have any batch writing software, it interferes with video burners, it's a good idea to not have it to prevent interference.
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heraldo2
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20. January 2006 @ 15:54 |
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Roger that.
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heraldo2
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20. January 2006 @ 19:05 |
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brobear Ritek is Fuji, I changed the write speed to 4x still have pixel flash and 2-3 second freezing. Stoped using Clone DVD because the pixel problems were even worse.
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20. January 2006 @ 19:16 |
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Have nyou considered that your burner may not be performing as you would like?
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brobear
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20. January 2006 @ 19:46 |
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I guess it's about time to ask you some more questions. What movie are you trying to back up and how large is it in Gigabytes? Does the hanging and freezing, and pixelation occurr on both your PC and standalone player(s)? Have you tried a recorded disc from another source on your players?
The Fuji Riteks may not be on everyone's A list, but it is supposed to be good media, unless you got some from a bad batch.
Just in case, use a cleaner disc and clean the optical head on your drive; especially if you have much dust and the drive is very old. Having smokers around is even worse on PCs.
You said the problem was worse with CloneDVD2, so software seems to have some effect. DVD Shrink is free and relatively easy to use. An easy guide can be found at http://www.dvdshrink.info . Try it and check the Quality Settings in the burn selections and deep analysis to help with compression problems. Quality settings are new in the 3.2 version of Shrink.
Just in case we forgot to mention it; the symptoms you describe are classic compression errors, though they can come from other problems.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. January 2006 @ 20:06
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bratcher
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21. January 2006 @ 07:26 |
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I used to burn 4x all the time. However I recieved a 25 pack of Memorex 15x DVD-R's for Christmas & so far I've made DVD's (from mpg video files) that play fine without freezing & pixillation problems. The burns were done at 8x.
I prefer TY media though the made in Japan & Tiawan Sony's are good too.
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brobear
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21. January 2006 @ 09:02 |
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Interesting, but I fear we're straying from the original goal, to get Heraldo2's problem solved. The goal is to get into settings assured to work with a bulletproof setup that works (lower speed settings, decent media, and a known software that works good with compression problems). The venture into higher speeds and different media can come later.
BTW, the MIJ Sony is TY, the MIT is good too, as bratcher pointed out.
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21. January 2006 @ 09:02 |
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bratcher Taiyo Yuden and or Verbatim is the best media on the market .memerox on the other hand is the worst media on the market i would steer clear from this brand "CMC Mag" .the sony DVD+R 8X (MIJ) will code out as Taiyo Yuden your better off with the plus format with this brand.
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D1CK1E
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21. January 2006 @ 14:03 |
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You say not to use any programs while your DVD burns. Why is this? Isn't this what the buffer is for and if it caused a problem wouldn't it merely crash the burn process instead of completing? The actual burning process doesn't do any compressing or re-authoring, but just burns the files to disc right?
I have a problem with a DVD+R DL copy I made that freezes on one spot, but as far as I can tell it's a good copy and my old DVD player is the issue. I just want to know how you can tell if you are getting "compression errors" or if that has anything to do with a random freeze.
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heraldo2
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21. January 2006 @ 15:28 |
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Brobear the pixel and freezing problems have been occuring with every movie I have tried to burn, ie Batman, Brothers Grimm, transporter2 etc. My burner is only 2yrs old, but I have not used it for a constant period of over six months. Problems did not start to occur until I switched to Clone DVD2, before I was using Clone DVD. After I changed to Clone DVD2 and Decrpyter, DVDFab Express I have been having problems. Every test tells me that the hardware is working correctly?? What else could there be??
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21. January 2006 @ 17:07 |
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D1K1E,
There shouldn't be any compression if copying a dvd to a DL dvd. Could be a problem with the layor break. What software and media are you using? I recommend DVD Decrypter read iso then DVD Decrypter or imgburn to write the iso to your disc. Straight 1:1 copy's.
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brobear
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21. January 2006 @ 18:02 |
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Mort
BigO was telling me he was having problems with some of the new Sony releases. Nothing he had would do the backup and he tried DVDXCopy 5 and it worked. He'd had it for a while but hadn't tried it. It was his last app on the PC he could use for the task. He has Decrypter, Imgburn, Nero and others. If you know him, you know he's a software junkie. I'm not doing DL recording much, so I haven't repeated his findings. One thing I'm aware of is that DL is more trouble than most people anticipate.
heraldo2
Lets take this one step at a time. First remove those backup apps except for AnyDVD. Load DVD Decrypter. We want to start from scratch and see if we can isolate the problem. Check your source DVD to make sure it is in good condition and your PC is reading it good. Play some of it with your DVD player software on the PC. Then make sure the AnyDVD is on and rip the files to the HD. Check the HD files with the player software to see if the pixelation has shown up. If it's bad here, we know it happened in the read and less to check.
If all is well download and install DVD Shrink 3.2. Check the deep analysis and Quality settings to insure the best encode. Do the encode and record the output to the hard drive. View the output with the player software. Check again for the pixelation.
If all is okay, download Nero 7. We'll burn with it because it has a burn log you can save. Use XPress and burn the files. View and see if the pixelation is there.
With the process segmented, that will tell us when the problems come in and with this setup problems are more easily isolated. Hopefully the drive is still good. ;)
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brobear
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21. January 2006 @ 18:13 |
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D1CK1E
It's best to eliminate as many variables as possible when doing a test to try to find a problem. Additional loads may or may not have an effect on the system, but why wonder. Surely a person can stop surfing or whatever for 10 to 15 minutes.
I have a fast system with a lot of resources. I surf and do other odds and ends while doing batch encodes and I even burn while encoding. I don't recommend that for those with less resources. A couple of weeks ago I couldn't do it. Since then I upped the processor to 3.4GHz from 2.8, increased the RAM to 2GB from 1 and improved the quality by using a performance matched pair of PC3200C2 Corsair memory. I have about 500GB of HD space with 2 WD HDDs. I just put in a new Plextor PX 716AL slot load burner and at slave is an HP burner I replaced my old one with just before Christmas. The system is made for multitasking and encoding. How many systems you see with those resources? I only point that out because some systems can do things that will bother others. So, it's best to leave off the activity while doing a backup until the process is at least doing what it's supposed to.
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21. January 2006 @ 18:31 |
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Quote:
How many systems you see with those resources?
My hands up brobear LOL !!!! running a kick ass machine myself per my sig.
also guys if you run AnyDVD with DVD Decrypter set it up this way
To use DVD Decrypter in conjunction with AnyDVD as stated per Olli ->OF SLYSOFT AND CloneDVD
Proceed to the DVD Decrypter Opening Page - Tools - Settings
I/O Tab - Click on "Elby CDIO-Elaborate Bytes"
General Tab - un-check "Check For Structure Protection"
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D1CK1E
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21. January 2006 @ 18:36 |
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I'm using a very nice system (2gb EL RAM, 3200+ venice) and I'm using DVD Decryper to make the image and then ImgBurn (with the correct booktype) to burn it. It plays fine on my computer just not on an old G&E DVD player. It skipps for a fraction of a second every now and then and then freezes on this one spot.
Thanks.
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21. January 2006 @ 18:41 |
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use Verbatim DL media and i assume your book typing the media to DVD-ROM right. burn at 2.4x or no more then 4x if that doesnt work i would say its a problem with your standalone dvd player ,i would shop for a newer model
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