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cant copy a copy of menace to society
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jkswartz
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20. January 2006 @ 15:34 |
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ive been burning copies of movies from other copies for a lomg time. but for some reason i cant copy my copy of menace 2 society. shrink says invalid nav. structure....dvddecrypter wont copy it....vobblanker gets to 89% and stops ihave anydvd43 running at all times... help
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20. January 2006 @ 15:55 |
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For some reason, this disc is unrippable. This is the ONLY disc I have had problems with. You can't even reauthor the main movie. If you try to reauthor the main movie in DVD Shrink, there are no titles to choose from, only Title Menus (11:52) and VTS 1 (00:35). What baffles me is that there doesn't seem to be any special visible protection on the disc. CSS is normal:
At first, I thought it was a bad press, but more and more people are having a hard time with this particular release. Something is up with this disc, but I don't know what it is.
My DVD Arsenal: BenQ DW1650 Drive, Plextor DVDRW PX-740A Drive, Nero 6.6.0.13, AnyDVD 6.1.8.4, CloneDVD2 2.9.1.2, DVD Shrink 3.2, DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0, DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.2.1.0, VobBlanker 2.1.3.0, RipIt4Me 1.7.1.0, FixVTS 1.6.0.3
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Jeanc1
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20. January 2006 @ 16:05 |
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latest AnyDVD + latest CloneDVD2
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20. January 2006 @ 16:10 |
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Won't work. I've tried that method as well. This is what it says:
My DVD Arsenal: BenQ DW1650 Drive, Plextor DVDRW PX-740A Drive, Nero 6.6.0.13, AnyDVD 6.1.8.4, CloneDVD2 2.9.1.2, DVD Shrink 3.2, DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0, DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.2.1.0, VobBlanker 2.1.3.0, RipIt4Me 1.7.1.0, FixVTS 1.6.0.3
Proud PS3 owner! PS3 games currently owned: Fight Night Round 3, Heavenly Sword, Madden 07, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Motorstorm, NHL 07, Resistance: Fall Of Man, Tony Hawk's Project 8
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Jeanc1
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20. January 2006 @ 16:15 |
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works on mine !
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20. January 2006 @ 16:17 |
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What's the region of your DVD? Mine is Region 1 and it won't work.
My DVD Arsenal: BenQ DW1650 Drive, Plextor DVDRW PX-740A Drive, Nero 6.6.0.13, AnyDVD 6.1.8.4, CloneDVD2 2.9.1.2, DVD Shrink 3.2, DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0, DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.2.1.0, VobBlanker 2.1.3.0, RipIt4Me 1.7.1.0, FixVTS 1.6.0.3
Proud PS3 owner! PS3 games currently owned: Fight Night Round 3, Heavenly Sword, Madden 07, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Motorstorm, NHL 07, Resistance: Fall Of Man, Tony Hawk's Project 8
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Jeanc1
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20. January 2006 @ 16:28 |
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21. January 2006 @ 01:44 |
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That might be why. jkswartz, are you trying to backup the Region 1 version?
My DVD Arsenal: BenQ DW1650 Drive, Plextor DVDRW PX-740A Drive, Nero 6.6.0.13, AnyDVD 6.1.8.4, CloneDVD2 2.9.1.2, DVD Shrink 3.2, DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0, DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.2.1.0, VobBlanker 2.1.3.0, RipIt4Me 1.7.1.0, FixVTS 1.6.0.3
Proud PS3 owner! PS3 games currently owned: Fight Night Round 3, Heavenly Sword, Madden 07, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Motorstorm, NHL 07, Resistance: Fall Of Man, Tony Hawk's Project 8
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paiger651
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22. January 2006 @ 16:27 |
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DakotaFan,same problem with my region 1 the only way I was able to do it was complete disc ripped and burned with dvd decripter.It did not need to be compressed.It's a strange one.
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brobear
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22. January 2006 @ 20:00 |
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The problem is with decryption. Once ripped, encoding wouldn't be a problem to DVD5. If it's bad structure though, some burners might refuse the task. Appears DVD Decrypter will burn it, so should ImgBurn. Strange that an obsolete ripper outdid the best decrypter on the market. So those having problems, try DVD Decrypter and see if it works. DVDD is a freebie. I've been using DVD Decrypter and AnyDVD together to get "clean" source files for the longest. I have a preference for using HD files, I can check the source easily if I run into a problem and some software handles HD files better. I've yet to find a DVD I can't do a backup of. Maybe it's time someone contacts Elby. Usually though, they're ahead of the game, so make sure you have the latest version.
A simple read scan of the disc will tell if there is a physical flaw, even a bad press that can't be seen shows up on the read scan. I've had DVDs that would play but not record; replacement discs of the same would.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. January 2006 @ 20:03
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23. January 2006 @ 02:33 |
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Whoa! Good call, paiger651. It worked for me as well doing it that way. That is very weird. It's also been awhile since I've used DVD Decrypter. See, it still serves a purpose for me. lol
My DVD Arsenal: BenQ DW1650 Drive, Plextor DVDRW PX-740A Drive, Nero 6.6.0.13, AnyDVD 6.1.8.4, CloneDVD2 2.9.1.2, DVD Shrink 3.2, DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0, DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.2.1.0, VobBlanker 2.1.3.0, RipIt4Me 1.7.1.0, FixVTS 1.6.0.3
Proud PS3 owner! PS3 games currently owned: Fight Night Round 3, Heavenly Sword, Madden 07, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Motorstorm, NHL 07, Resistance: Fall Of Man, Tony Hawk's Project 8
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23. January 2006 @ 02:34
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paiger651
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23. January 2006 @ 03:27 |
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DakotaFan,the wierd thing is if you take that copy you made and try to run it through Shrink it will act just like the original.You would think once you ripped it with DVD Decrypter you could run it through shrink to re-author main movie.Try that and see if you get the same results.Nero will allow you to make a copy of the copy though.
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brobear
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23. January 2006 @ 03:59 |
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That's nothing out of the ordinary, I've seen Shrink note structural differences with other movie copies. A copy doesn't need to be transcoded again. All they need is copied, which most simple copy apps can do. Copies have no encryption and if on DVD5, they're already sized. It's just a matter of using the right software for a particular task.
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paiger651
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23. January 2006 @ 04:20 |
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Brobear I realize A copy doesn't need to be transcoded again:)
Can you tell me the right software to backup main movie only for menace to society.
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brobear
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23. January 2006 @ 04:24 |
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Before I comment, I'm going to run out and get it so I can give it a good check. But most movies I get ripped get encoded with RB/CCE. To date I've not met one I couldn't rip. ;)
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paiger651
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23. January 2006 @ 04:27 |
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Thank's brobear,let us know the results.
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paiger651
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23. January 2006 @ 04:30 |
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I ripped and burned with DVD Decrypter,just cant re-author for main movie only.
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ddp
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23. January 2006 @ 06:31 |
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StanH1000
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23. January 2006 @ 12:22 |
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@paiger651:
DVD Decryptor can be set to rip main movie only. Then can use Shrink to get rid of unecessary sound tracts and subtitles.
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23. January 2006 @ 13:57 |
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Did "main movie" three different ways: DVD43 and Recode2, Shrink, and AnyDVD and CloneDVD2. I am in Region 1 as well.
EDIT: Copied backup with BurningROM "disc copy" feature...
Dropbox: http://db.tt/p5P9bH1d
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System 2: Core2Duo E6400 O/Ced @ 3.2 GHz, Gigabyte GA 965P S3 mobo, Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro, 2GB PC6400 RAM, PNY GeForce 6600, Hyundai B70A 17" LCD.This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23. January 2006 @ 13:58
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brobear
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23. January 2006 @ 14:02 |
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Thanks teflonmyk. Much as I suspected. Is the movie any good? No need to mess with it now, if not. I got busy around the place and didn't make it in to town today, so didn't pick up Menace.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23. January 2006 @ 14:21
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paiger651
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23. January 2006 @ 17:35 |
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Teflonmyk,Its good to know someone had no problems with Menace To Society.I tryed both Shrink and Clone Dvd2 with Any-dvd and it would not work.I have not tryed DVD43 and Recode2 this is the only movie that still gives me trouble along with a lot of other people dont know what the problem is.I did backup the comple disc last year ripped and burned using DVD Decrypter.
Thanks..........
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brobear
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23. January 2006 @ 20:47 |
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That far back, DVD Decrypter was probably up to date to handle the decryption. That was before they got heavily into the new encryptiosn as well. That's why I couldn't see AnyDVD having a problem with it. I wish I could get my hands on one of those problem discs. Teflonmyk proved it's not a universal problem.
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paiger651
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23. January 2006 @ 22:22 |
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Yea I dont know about teflonmyk's disc but mine is really old as in years.I bought it used from Blockbuster a long time ago.
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brobear
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23. January 2006 @ 22:40 |
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What does the read scan look like for the disk. You can scan it with the free DVDInfoPro or with Nero's CD DVD Speed test utility.
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