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jburden78
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4. February 2006 @ 16:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I tried to back up "The Origins of the Da Vinci Code", and it had the same characteristics as "The Fog" and "Stealth". When you run it through DVD Shrink, There is just way too much information, and it does not allow you to change the final file size to burn it to a 4 gb DVD.

With the other movies that are similar, I run it through DVD Fab Decrypter, then VOB Blanker, then DVD Shrink. But after I tried these steps with this title, I am still at the same stage. The file is still too big, and I can not change it!

Did I miss something? In the mean time, I will give the ol'e faithful, DVD Decrypter + DVD Shrink combo a try. maybe I will have more luck.

Can someone let me know if I am doing something wrong? Or missing a step or something?

Thanks,
JBurden
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Car.Mike
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4. February 2006 @ 16:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jburden78 ,
Try it this way
Use DVDDecrypter in .iso mode
Mode> iso>read> now hit the decrypt button and remember where the file is
Open Shrink> File> Open Disc Image> now you will go the the file DVDDecrypter saved> click on the .mds file and Shrink will now analyze the DVD
jburden78
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4. February 2006 @ 18:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I will give it a try.

Thanks,
JBurden
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hi

u can aviod all that trouble, just read my sig.

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5. February 2006 @ 02:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Make sure you have the latest edition of DVDFab Decrypter, 2.9.7.0, it addresses a problem with compression in Shrink. I've been using the 2.9.6.8 and just updated. I've been backing up new movies with the heavy protection, including the ARccOS, Puppetlock protection. AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter is another method I've been using to get ripped files to the HD. In the event of having compliance problems, I've been using FixVTS instead of VobBlanker.

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5. February 2006 @ 02:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Car.Mike
If the protection is there in the File mode, it will be there in the ISO mode as well. Due to lack of support, DVD Decrypter hasn't been updated in some time and is unable to handle the newer protection on some of the new releases. Movies such as "Madagascar", "The Fog", "The Cave", and "The Legend of Zorro", with the ARccOS protection can't be done with DVD Decrypter without using a PSL2 file to direct the progran. Then it's suggested to run through VobBlanker or FixVTS to make sure the files are compliant. A quick check is to open in Shrink and see if it does the quick analysis. A good quick check, but not always a sure one. Some have been making their own PSL2(s) using PgcEDit and a PSL2 plugin that runs a wizard to build the file.

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Car.Mike
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5. February 2006 @ 04:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Brobear,
Sorry it took me so long to answer back but I had to do a few test first. This is what I did this a.m.
Movies used:
1. FlightPlan and The Cave
2. AnyDVD was cut off
3. Using 2 computers at my house
4. Tried to copy Movie only using Shrink ( FlightPlan and The Cave)using the original disks- Failed as I got errors in the analysis stage
5. Tried to copy Movie only using Nero Recode( FlightPlan and The Cave) using the original disks - Also failed
6. Took My Copy of both movies that I had used DVDDecrypter in .iso Mode and tried to copy Movie Only in Shrink and in Nero Recode- If it was going to fail it would happen during analysis or during trancoding( FlightPlan and The Cave)- It copied both movies.
7. Inserted both movies in a DVD Standalone player ( Sony) and they played
8. Open DVDDecrypter inserted My original .iso copied DVD and got this message ( FlightPlan)
W 09:18:32 Possible Structure Protection Found!
W 09:18:32 1 area has been marked as 'suspect'.
W 09:18:32 Dummy sectors will be inserted where necessary.
9. Looks like the protection is there but if you can explain how I can copy a copy of a protected movie that was originally done in .iso mode and I get no errors in Shrink or Recode then I'll defer to your wisdom.
10. Why this works I have no idea but it does. Will this work on the new Alpha-DVD Decryption who knows as none of the movies are using that yet

When I am doing only a DVD-5 then I'll use PgcEdit and then run it through DVD-RB. It would be nice if Pgcedit would would allow you to tell it what burning program you are using ( instead of Shrink ) so that it would automatically start the process in DVD-RB. Your comments are welcome
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5. February 2006 @ 04:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did you use a PSL2 file when you used DVD Decrypter? Just a rhetorical question, that's what the PgcEdit is all about witht the PSL2 wizard. I did "The Cave" and a number of the ARccOS protected DVDs. DVD Decrypter just will not remove those protections whether in File or ISO on it's own without some type of user input. ISO is merely a container for the Video_TS folder. No matter what mode DVD Decrypteris in, it has to remove the protection and if not preprogrammed for the removal, it has to have user input. The same protection is there in ISO as in File. Others and I went over this in depth on another thread. http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/6/286536
Overlook some of the personal commentary and pay attention to the content.
If you go back and use PgcEdit with a File rip with DVD Decrypter, it should work just as well as the ISO. I've found that to be true anyway. Plus the key is using the VobBlanker or FixVTS to make the files compliant. I'm familiar with the method. In fact I've needed to use FixVTS to make some of the AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter rips compliant.

'Brobear'





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Car.Mike
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5. February 2006 @ 05:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Brobear,
Used no PSL2 file . I was very skeptical at first a few months ago but I tried it and it works. When you rip it it gives you the encryption code. Since I am doing More and more DVD-9( If the DVD is worth it) using DVDD is the quickest way for me to rip and Imgburn to burn to DVD. Is this method going to work all of the time and the answer is No and if it fails the AnyDVD gets turned on and I'll re-rip in iso mode. If that fails then I'll use PgcEdit w/ the plug-in.
Question as I read the thread and jumped over the non-pertinent items. Some people can do the Fog and some can not. W/in region 1 to your knowledge is there different encryption versions used on the same DVD movie but they are shipped to different parts of the U.S. If that is the case then that would explain how DVDD in .iso mode is doing the movies
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5. February 2006 @ 05:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As for different encryptions on the same movies, the industry threatens such, but to date I've not seen it. The best thing to do is fire up the AnyDVD for the info page to see what protections are on the disc. I'm just going by personal experience and I've done most of the titles you mentioned. Some like "The Fog" I got purely to check the encryption. "Madagascar", "The Cave", and "The Legend of Zorro" were more trouble, but doable. None would rip successfully in ISO or File using DVD Decrypter by itself. The bad sectors or whatever would be encountered and the app would go into indefinite stall or error out. As I said, you're reading the same files, just a different method of output on these. ISO is a more universally compatible burning format, but it's more difficult for editing. It has nothing to do with being better for decryption. If you doubt my word, open the movie ISO with WinRAR or put it in a drive emulator and open it instead of playing it. You'll see the Video_TS folder with all the accompanying VOB, IFO, and BUP files. ISO just reads as a continual stream whereas the File is segmented to the separate components.

'Brobear'





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Car.Mike
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5. February 2006 @ 11:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Brobear,
I stand corrected. Fog locked up but PgcEdit came through as usual same w/ Legend of Zorro. Thanks for the info.
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5. February 2006 @ 17:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You're welcome, the "Factory" guys have a dirty tricks department running full blast it seems. There's still a bunch of releases that DVD Decrypter can handle solo, but some of the newer ones from Sony, Disney, and Columbia can be real problems. Those are the big players with the new protections, there may be others.

'Brobear'





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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 5. February 2006 @ 17:34

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