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Vasudan

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9. February 2006 @ 11:41

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I first had this problem with 'The Matrix'. Recently I've had the same issue with 'Star Wars Episode 2' and again with 'Blade Trinity'

Basically what happens is at various points in the film it will jump back 2-3 minutes and repeat itself. Classic example would be Matrix, just after Trinity walks through the metal detector and shoots the guard, it jumps back to Neo walking through, it only repeats once and then continues as normal untill the next problem scene.

Matrix I remember getting the full movie still, Blade it missed the last 15 odd minutes and Star Wars it was so bad it only got though about half, the jumps were far greater than the 2-3 minutes with the other two. It the same no matter how many times I rip it, repeats the exact same scenes and rips with the exact issue everytime, so it's not a one time bad rip.

So I'm curious if this is a known problem, a problem with my ripping program or the codec. I'm using AoA DVD Ripper and Xvid codec, rarely had an issue with it, 9/10 movies work just fine but I seem to find the odd one in my collection that has the above problems.

I'm going to try a different codec tonight and see what happens.

Any thoughts?

Thx.

Vas.

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Bruce999

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9. February 2006 @ 12:35

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I suspect you may be running to a problem with your particular choice in ripping programs when you are dealing with any DVD that uses "multiple angles" for "seamless branching."

I know that the Star Wars DVDs made use of this. I am not positive that the The Matrix did, but this could well be. ** SEE EDIT ADDED BELOW **

Star Wars DVDs have several different "angles," in order to allow one to choose a French soundtrack, and to also view the opening "crawl" in French. Or, if one chooses the Spanish soundtrack, one would automatically then see the opening "crawl" in Spanish. This was done by using multiple "angles," and the player chooses the correct version according to the choice of soundtrack. That way, MOST of the film is the identical data, and only on rare occasions does the film "branch out" to one choice in several different "video angles." The advantage, is that they do not have to repeat every scene many times. Only a very few scenes, like that opening crawl where the viewer must read the exposition on the screen, or a few later scenes where subtitles appear for some foreign made up "native language."

These discs can still be ripped, but often one must learn how to go in an do a bit of "re-authoring," and the exact method varies with each ripper. I am not familiar with the one you use, so i cannot provide exact instruction. I do know how this is done in DVDShrink, for example, in "reauthor mode." I also know how to do it in VobBlanker, or PGCEdit.

EDIT: I just checked, and The Matrix is indeed another film which makes wide use of multiple angles and seamless branching. It does this for an interactive feature known as "follow the white rabbit," whereby a white rabbit was superimposed over the regular film at times as a button or an icon that one could "choose" to follow by clicking on it.

Here is a lengthy discussion which mentions how complex this was...

http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/mpg/ButtonOverVideo.htm

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Anyone else?

-Bruce

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