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What Do You Guys Use to Hold Backup Discs?
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Shortx
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19. February 2006 @ 11:32 |
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Its okay to store dvds/cds in the big regular cases or jewel cases stacked on eachother? Because i've read that they should be stored vertically, but is this only for disks without cases?
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19. February 2006 @ 12:19 |
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You may want to read the article on DVD ROT in my signature. It comments on using CD Jewell cases for DVD's.
My personal opinion is DVD's should always be stored vertically when possible. Although when stored in DVD jewell cases and dvd cases it is less critical than in cd/dvd wallets.
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oneacer
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19. February 2006 @ 14:39 |
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Tralblazr,
"Avoid storing discs in paper or cardboard sleeves. Paper can leave tiny surface scratches when you insert or remove the disc. If you must use sleeves, choose those made of soft woven material like DuPont's Tyvek."
A quote taken from an article on DVD care from PCMag.com.
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19. February 2006 @ 17:17 |
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ANy one know what the sleve in the 510 mega case is made out of?
thanks,
j
About the dvd rot issue. Is there a differecnce between storing wrriten DVDs in a cake box and storing blank dvds in a cake box. Obviously storing blank in a cake box is ok. But the other?? anyone ideas? Right now all my dvds are in cakeboxes.
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19. February 2006 @ 17:51 |
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ANy one know what the sleve in the 510 mega case is made out of?
Soft woven back and plastic front.
I believe most concur that pressure on DVD's over an extended amount of time is not good for a dvd. So I would think that stacking over time would be bad. I don't think there is any short term issues, but I would think over years it would cause issues. But that's just my opinion and a few things I've read.
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19. February 2006 @ 17:52 |
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@burningas
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ANy one know what the sleve in the 510 mega case is made out of?
they are made of that soft-woven material that oneacer was speaking of from his quote from pcmag~ :)
as to storing in cakeboxes, nothing wrong with that...blank dvds come that way, but for MOST people, i assume storing backups on cakeboxes would make it difficult and troublesome to find the movie you would like to watch...going thru a 25/50/100 spindle looking for a particular film...not very effective if you ask me... :)
but in terms of DAMAGE to a backup, i don't think so...
docTy~
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Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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19. February 2006 @ 17:58 |
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hallo,
thanks, yeah they are backups so i just put them in 50 cake boxes in my closet, as for orginals and cds i will go for the 510 mega case.-sounds good. AND use the program i metioned before retriveing will be a snatch since the 510 mega case sleves are numnbered.
thank,
j
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19. February 2006 @ 18:11 |
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sounds like a plan to me~ :)
docTy~
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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20. February 2006 @ 05:16 |
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as to storing in cakeboxes, nothing wrong with that...blank dvds come that way
DOC is definitely far more knowledgable than me, but I wanted to be sure some things were being taken into consideration. I mainly only have printables. I know that on two seperate occasions when I got to the bottom of a 50 stack with only 4-5 discs remaining that the discs begin to stick together slightly. Obviously there must be a difference in the making of the top of printables and a non-printable and this must have been the cause. I can only assume since the top of one will almost always be touching the bottom of another that it wouldn't be an issue? However once printed on, who knows? I can't say for a fact that the ink would cause damage over time to the bottom of another disc, especially if stacked over time. But have never had the urge to take the chance. I would say the same for those who used labels (I urge against using labels also).
As to non printable, I wouldn't think it's a issue. Assuming there is no chemical in a sharpie that could eat away at the dye or image onto the bottom of another over a significant amount of time.
Personally I would use the Backups and store the originals. Originals are pressed and I believe will last far longer than a burned backup? If your original gets scratched and you go to your backup to make another backup, you're making a backup of a backup? Usually a compressed backup. I would prefer to make a backup of the original. But these are just my opinions.
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20. February 2006 @ 13:08 |
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@beltline
You got the right idea about using the backups and storing the originals. I got put down here once when I said that I had backed up all my LPs to 7" reel tapes and saved the LPs and played the tapes. I threw all the tapes away after 30 years because they deteriorated, but I've got pristine LPs remaining and the means to play them. Some have even been recorded to cds.
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littlegun
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21. February 2006 @ 09:59 |
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Personally I have 2 areas....
I have a wallet of RW's where I may only watch the movie once
DVD cases for media I plan on adding to my collection
I have looked at some of those box like steel containers but my thing is are there tabs you can use/add? As more Cd's get placed it gets tighter and tighter to thumb thru looking for titles...
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21. February 2006 @ 10:26 |
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There are numbered tabs on each sleeve.
There are a number of really nice free and pay programs that allow you to library your collection. Most will also let you print out your collection in excel, numbered, etc. You would then just keep a copy in the case along with in your computer.
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Tralblazr
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21. February 2006 @ 11:53 |
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@garmoon, I don't think pcmag is the all knowing one. I am simply speaking from my own personal experience. The cloth is what leaves what I would call drag marks on the disc from taking it in and out. I have all my discs stored in paper cases and they are in perfect condition. Now, there are different paper cases, and I could see that if you had one that it was necessary to 'stuff' or force your disc into the paper that wouldn't be good. If the cases with the soft material work for you that's great, this has been my personal experince with over 850 backup dvd's. Ridata -r is the media used, pretty sure it's the g05 dye.
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21. February 2006 @ 12:19 |
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@Tralblzr You got the wrong dude here. I didn't give the link about PC Mag. I just ask how the plastic harmed your discs and you had answered that. Since I have read that the writable DVD discs are not gonna last much than 5 yrs, it probably doesn't matter what they are stored in. I wish I had kept that link.
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21. February 2006 @ 13:17 |
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Im using a 1 & 1/2 inch thick binder (200 disc capacity). Its pretty much stick & forget for myself. So I may look into one of those fancy steel cases.
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21. February 2006 @ 21:04 |
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@beltline
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DOC is definitely far more knowledgable than me, but I wanted to be sure some things were being taken into consideration. I mainly only have printables. I know that on two seperate occasions when I got to the bottom of a 50 stack with only 4-5 discs remaining that the discs begin to stick together slightly. Obviously there must be a difference in the making of the top of printables and a non-printable and this must have been the cause. I can only assume since the top of one will almost always be touching the bottom of another that it wouldn't be an issue? However once printed on, who knows? I can't say for a fact that the ink would cause damage over time to the bottom of another disc, especially if stacked over time. But have never had the urge to take the chance. I would say the same for those who used labels (I urge against using labels also).
i definitely agree with your logic here, i was replying under the assumption that the discs being "stacked" in the cakebox were of the non-printable variety~ you are definitely right about if they were the printables AND they have been printed upon, then stacked one on top of the other, my mistake for not thinking about that particular situation, thank you for pointing it out~ :)
there are so many factors that go into "how long a burned dvd backup" will last, depending on storage conditions, quality of dye used in the manufacturer of said disc, burn speed even (if burned too fast initially, the disc will be FULL of errors to begin with, nevermind even trying to backup a backup once it's already 'bad' to begin with, then take into account dye rot/degredation over time, you got yourself a useless backup there then...regardless of HOW you stored it) :)
very good points beltline, i do appreciate your contributions here and applaud a "different angle" of viewing a "longevity" question~ cheers~
docTy~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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21. February 2006 @ 22:01 |
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22. February 2006 @ 04:37 |
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i use a cd wallet kind of thing that holds 264 (caselogic)...but that meritline box looks nice...when i fill up this i'll order one or two of them :)
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bratcher
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22. February 2006 @ 15:02 |
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I have 4 of those 264 disc Caselogic cases. One I'm using for home burned audio CD's made from mp3 & flac files. Another is holding DVD's of old radio shows on mp3's that are being moved from CD's. The other 2 are empty right now though I might start using one for data discs.
DVD's are in those slimline plastic cases you can buy. Slimline jewel cases? I'm getting away from that as it takes up way too much space!
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26. February 2006 @ 10:22 |
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I've been lurking for quite a while now and, after a successful installation, decided to start making posts.
I've been through a couple phases when it comes to storing my DVDs.
The most obvious choice were binders because they take the least amount of space. Unfortunately, once they are plagued with dirt, your discs will start to damage rapidly, and they are really hard to clean.
I then switched to my Jewel Cases... never thinking I'd amass the amount of discs I have... did that ever have to change.
Next step was slim jewel cases. The problem with these is that they are hard to label. I made my own labels on full 8 1/2 x 11 sticker sheets, but couldn't keep up with that either. I eventually just kept them in alphabetical order.
Today, even the slim jewel cases are taking up too much space. I'm in the process of switching over to paper sleeves and, like Tralblazr, I keep all of my discs in alphabetical order. I use mediaman to organize my library (music, dvd, games etc...) and send it to others. The sleeves have been good for the past 1/2 year... just keep them clean.
When I was working with jewel cases, I read the comments about stresses on the hub of disks when pulling them out of the case. I find it hard to believe that this could be a significant factor unless you are taking your disks out upwards of 50 times. When I worked at a movie store, we would rent the same copy of a movie over 70 times and it would still work fine. Some of these movies were a b#@$h to pry out of the case, yet they still worked. Not to mention that people tend not to take the best care when handling rentals. Of course then disks were of better quality, but I don't think it is cause for concern.
~N.
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26. February 2006 @ 15:03 |
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ok so lets say you have your backups in cd wallets or a big box with sleeves...how do you organize your collection? i just use excel...its easy and simple.
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26. February 2006 @ 17:12 |
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When I was working with jewel cases, I read the comments about stresses on the hub of disks when pulling them out of the case. I find it hard to believe that this could be a significant factor unless you are taking your disks out upwards of 50 times. When I worked at a movie store, we would rent the same copy of a movie over 70 times and it would still work fine. Some of these movies were a b#@$h to pry out of the case, yet they still worked. Not to mention that people tend not to take the best care when handling rentals. Of course then disks were of better quality, but I don't think it is cause for concern.
There's a big difference between a pressed copy and a burned copy.
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26. February 2006 @ 18:41 |
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Shelf from Best Buy. Slim cases. Tabs from Staples. Two programs for databases: "Game Collectorz" for games and "Movie Collectorz"
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26. February 2006 @ 19:13 |
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Very nice, I just use a CD/DVD binder, and also I have some jewel cases that are in on of my dresser drawer...I probably gonna get a case like the one you posted (the one from meritline), but the sheleves don't look bad either >.<, if I had anywhere for it in my room...
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27. February 2006 @ 06:53 |
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@bhetrick
Nice set up! I was wondering what the diagonal lines were, until I saw the 2nd. photo and realized that it was the tabs. I have a similar set up from Ikea, but it is tall and narrow (30 slim-line jewel cases per shelf), rather than the wide one you have. Might visit Best Buy to see if they have any of those locally. Space is not a problem since I have a home office.
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