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Radge
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22. February 2006 @ 12:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Excuse the blatent ad, I'm sure the mods will remove this thread if its deemed inappropriate.

http://i'manidiot.net edited by ddp is a new site offering MP4 content. The selection is limited at the moment as the site is still somewhat work-in-progress but new items are being added all the time.

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22. February 2006 @ 12:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeh they will

as its illegal



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Paul2004
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22. February 2006 @ 12:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
like ravenlife said , but who why pay for ILLEGAL copies of films etc , when ya can download them for free?
Radge
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22. February 2006 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No more so than the gazillion threads on these forums.

It legal to make a backup copy of any DVD you own. Its illegal to sell the software to do this (if the DVD is copyright protected). It is not illegal to own said software. It is not illegal to have that backup copy in MP4 format.
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22. February 2006 @ 12:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the law on copies of DVDs you own is grey at best.

downloading stuff you dont own is deffinitely illegal

it isnt illegal to sell the software - its what the end user does with said software that is illegal

so with the points you made and the ones i have just made

you can vet this will be deleted

plus this is blatant spam

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Radge
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22. February 2006 @ 12:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The law is very black and white on the matter of backing up DVDs you own. It is 100% legal.

Nothing on the site is available for download. Law definately prevents that.

You're wrong over the bit about selling "ripping" software, at least in the US. Its what brought about the demise of 321Studios and others.

Yeah, I know the post was spam, apologies. But looking at some of the other content on here, it didn't seem too out of place. There's always people who like to have stuff done for them... for every Do-It-Yourself'er there's a dozen Buy-It-Yourself'ers.
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22. February 2006 @ 12:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
on the ball as usual, RavenLife. :D


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22. February 2006 @ 12:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was on an ebay forum earlier, talking about the guys who are selling lost and 24 in mp4 on ebay. I was asking the legality of this, with regards to the buyer and seller both owning the original dvd and the cost only being for conversion, and found out that in the UK...drumroll.....

Its illegal to copy any DVD even for backup purposes. Which sucks.

This is different in the US though, I believe you can copy a DVD but not if it involves cracking CSS? But I may be wrong, i have read a lot of conflicting things online tonight.



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22. February 2006 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i do try,

@radge

although everyone knows
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The ability to create copies of the media you've purchased for personal use is a long-accepted facet of the fair-use doctrine in U.S. copyright law
the DMCA state
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However, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) states that it's illegal to break the CSS copy-protection mechanism employed by most commercial DVD movies
which means you can only really copy stuff you created yorself,

how many dvd's/movies/music. have you seen without copyright protection?

this is why i say the area is grey

the copyright protection act regarding movies/music will always be grey because - yes it is ok to copy dvds/cds of yur own - but it certainly isnt legal to download them - even if you own an original copy of it (correct me if i am wrong

also there are still programs being sold and even freeware that take out copyright protection - if there all illegal why havn't tehy all been banned?


p.s

also, if by your own emmision ripping copy protected dvds is illegal- how can you sell mp4 rips of them

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22. February 2006 @ 13:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Man just go watch tv.



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Radge
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22. February 2006 @ 13:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I never said it was illegal to rip a copy-protected DVD. I said it was prohibited to sell software that allows someone to do so. Subtle difference.

Anyways, I've done some more digging and apparantly the law was changed in 2003 with an update to the 1988 laws. At the present moment, it is illegal to backup any CD/DVD that contains copyrighted material regardless of whether the CD/DVD contains CSS protection or not. Bugger. A further amendment to the law is planned which will see the UK bring in laws along the lines of the DMCA.

Again, bugger.
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22. February 2006 @ 13:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lmao

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Paul2004
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22. February 2006 @ 13:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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i do try,

@radge

although everyone knows
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The ability to create copies of the media you've purchased for personal use is a long-accepted facet of the fair-use doctrine in U.S. copyright law
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the DMCA state
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However, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) states that it's illegal to break the CSS copy-protection mechanism employed by most commercial DVD movies
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which means you can only really copy stuff you created yorself,

how many dvd's/movies/music. have you seen without copyright protection?

this is why i say the area is grey

the copyright protection act regarding movies/music will always be grey because - yes it is ok to copy dvds/cds of yur own - but it certainly isnt legal to download them - even if you own an original copy of it (correct me if i am wrong

also there are still programs being sold and even freeware that take out copyright protection - if there all illegal why havn't tehy all been banned?


p.s

also, if by your own emmision ripping copy protected dvds is illegal- how can you sell mp4 rips of them
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22. February 2006 @ 13:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeh i cant help being right - lmao

dont worry about it radge

just take out the original link and it will be all hunky dory


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Paul2004
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22. February 2006 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
like i sed ur VERY wise lol, when u answer something , u always give that little bit extra
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22. February 2006 @ 13:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yoda but gayer


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Paul2004
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23. February 2006 @ 06:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yer , i need to get round 2 making a sig
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