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Cheapest place to buy DVD-R in UK?? HELP!!
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piggyot
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28. February 2006 @ 02:43 |
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tayhigh picks up on a good point there..
i had a quick look on ebay jst to see what was on there seeing as it was mentioned above, and it soon became apparent the TY verbs dont seem to have any TY branding visable to make it obvious theyre any different to standard verbs?
i've got a 25 verbs tub sat in my desk drawer (theyre work ones so no idea where they came from) but they look the same as any TY verbs shown on ebay and including the link tayhigh posed above.
are there not markings on the individual discs (to show if they are TY) if at all the tub packaging? what's the best way to distinguish without having to read the small print on the tub specs of which is pretty tricky on a website and equally as tricky on my tub as the inner details seem to have gone walk abouts.
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28. February 2006 @ 03:39 |
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hi, i'll try to attach a clearer picture of the top of a disc..
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28. February 2006 @ 03:55 |
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those ukdvdr discs are just Verbatim, the clue is the tubs (plus the Verb TY say made in Japan on the tub too). the top of the discs look almost the same, but the Verb TY have the reassuring 'GG' codes, see my pic, i have GG00123 there.. -
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28. February 2006 @ 04:38 |
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Best wait for SVP then?
Anyone know how long they may be...beginning to run a bit low!
Should really think of something to put here.
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28. February 2006 @ 05:07 |
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i was gonna ring them up as i don't know anywhere else that sells them. i won't buy anything else now, even my last 2 tubs of normal Verbatim are giving me problems so i will only use the Verb TY now. but luckily i've got loads of tubs in. phew!
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28. February 2006 @ 07:36 |
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cheers for the pic creaky.. i checked the one's i have and no, theyre not TY's!
guys i've jst been reading the thread abt TY discs by the 'DOC' (a good read if you haven't already)
( http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/296925 )
and it seems any media with these codes (below) quoted against their discs are infact taiyo yuden:
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Taiyo Yuden rated speed & format/ media ID coding / inner hub reading
4x dvd-r = TYG01 / GD00xxxx
8x dvd-r = TYG02 / GG00xxxx
16x dvd-r = TYG03 / GH00xxxx
so therefore referring back to the svp.ocm page there are infact brands other than verbatim on there which don't jump up and down and claim to be TY but infact are..
Datasafe Pro (Taiyo Yuden) 8x DVD-R ADVDInfo: TYG02
Panasonic Printable (8x) DVD-R ADVDInfo: TYG02
Verbatim (Taiyo Yuden) (8x) DVD-R ADVDInfo: TYG02
might be worth a look at the datasafe and panasonic discs rather than waiting for the verbs to come into stock?!?
fair cop? or doesn't it work quite like that?
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28. February 2006 @ 08:14 |
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not quite, unfortunately the TYG02 mid code is abused heavily
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28. February 2006 @ 12:10 |
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Creaky..did i read right in that verbs are giving you grief???Are they wearing turbans perchance???!!...Im using the ty 16x silver printables at the mo and theyre fine.about 2% error rate with the dye tho...visible patches.But hey.Nearly all blanks have the odd problems,im just pissed i have to check everyone on dvdinfopro.Hmmmnn.just approaching torquay now....turning into the industrial site where svp live.Whos that in the boat CREAKY IS THAT YOU!!
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1. March 2006 @ 02:06 |
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@pieman - lmao to whole reply. naw, the 2 tubs of normal Verbs giving me grief are Taiwanese. they fail on the lead-in and the disc is then scrap. 'fraid it's put me off normal Verbs now. good job i got some Verb TY in. naw i'm not living afloat anymore so it can't be me LOL. hopefully svp can give you a guesstimate as to when they'll have more stocks of the prized Verb TY, as nothing else goes anywhere near my burners now :(
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1. March 2006 @ 02:17 |
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Just as an update and a warning to people who are considering buying off Ebay (I was until I looked into it a bit more) I sent this question to the seller of this item.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/25-Verbatim-Taiyo-Yuden-TYG02-Dye-8x-DVD-R-...
Hi,
I was considering buying these DVD's but have a question regarding the TYG02 dye used.
The information you have given is copied and pasted from SVP http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=221 but the product code you have given for the package (43475) relates to this Verbatim product which does NOT use the TYG02 dye http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=727 it uses CMC MAG. AE1 Ritek G05.
Could you just confirm which dye the DVD's are as the description given has conflicting information.
I will update all here once I/if receive a reply!
Looking at his feedback lots of people have been duped into buying the DVDs thinking they are TY without knowing they are not. Beware of the seller terryki50!
Should really think of something to put here.
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1. March 2006 @ 02:20 |
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you got a better ebay link, that one won't work for me ??..
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1. March 2006 @ 02:20 |
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scratch that, i just saw the seller's name at bottom of your post. doh!
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tayhigh
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1. March 2006 @ 02:24 |
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Sorry creaky, the link works for me!
If you search Ebay for "25 Verbatim (Taiyo Yuden TYG02 Dye) 8x DVD-R Sealed Tub" it should bring it up.
Is this person know then for selling dodgy DVD's on Ebay? Sorry bit of a noob!
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1. March 2006 @ 02:29 |
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i found the seller, i'm dubious of the discs - 10 in pvc sleeves as you'd be chancing what you got, but the 25 tub he/she has listed as product code 43475 - in the ebay piccy, should be a light blue colour paper win a silver bottomed tub, more importantly they're product code 43475 and Made in Japan; trouble is with Verbatim is they've reused the same product code for other products. just checked an old Verbatim tub from Taiwan (non-TY Verbs) and same product code. even more reasons to stay away from eBay, it's too easy to get the wrong stuff and it's not all the ebayer's fault in this instance.
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1. March 2006 @ 02:40 |
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@piggyot
hello, doc here as i usually don't venture in the threads regarding what's available in the UK, as i'm here in the U.S., so i really have no clue what IS or isn't available over there on the other shore :) i just wanted to thank you for at least quoting me from my thread, as i've noticed a LOT of people never mentioning my name and just copy and paste using the info i posted to tell people about Taiyo Yuden~ (without actually "quoting" it) :)
anyways, as far as i can tell, SVP seems to be THE premier media company over there in the UK, much like supermediastore.com is here in the U.S.
as to this link:
http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=149
SVP specifically states the following: and i quote, Quote:
The discs that Datasafe have chosen for their new Datasafe Pro product are unbranded inkjet printable (full face) genuine Taiyo Yuden A-Grade 8x DVD-R.
Taiyo Yuden are renowned as being one of the leading manufacturers of quality DVDR products. Unfortunately they are also expensive, but if you have an application where only the best is good enough, then Datasafe Pro is the answer.
so, in regards to these Datasafe Pro printables, i would trust SVP's more detailed description and ASSUME these are authentic TYs, they even go as far as mentioning Taiyo Yuden by name :)
as to these:
http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=824
i've actually used Panasonic's "regular non-printables" before and can tell you FROM EXPERIENCE they are GENUINE TYs, just to "double check", make sure you see the "made in japan" on the spindles, i haven't seen them made anywhere else personally, but Panasonic brand MIJ 4x/8x DVD-R are both TYG01/TYG02 respectively, with the CORRECT inner hub coding from your "quote" of me a few posts up~ :) i have a few of these discs SOMEWHERE in my house, but am too lazy to go find them to give you a picture of them here, but take my word for it, the MIJ Panasonic in the 4x and 8x DVD-R format are genuine Taiyo Yudens...Panasonic is pretty well known for putting out dvd-ram media in the market, that's where their strength is, not the dvd-r/dvd+r market~ :)
and to put the icing on the cake, SVP mentions Taiyo Yuden specifically again in their description, quoted : Quote:
In addition to the performance and reliablitity you would expect from such a long-standing and well-known brand, the Taiyo Yuden dye used make it a very-high quality disc.
so, based on your 2 findings available at SVP, i would think it's pretty SAFE to say these are BOTH manufactured by Taiyo Yuden, along with the prized Verb TYs that creaky apparently BOUGHT OUT their entire stock of~ LOL :)
anyways, as creaky mentioned earlier, the "TYG02" coding has been HEAVILY abused with a lot of the smaller branded media companies, they've stolen this media ID coding just to fool the unwary consumer, if i'm not mistaken, creaky himself has a few of these "FAKE TYs" in his utterly attrocious Bulkpaqs? the ones he used to always mentioned chucking into his wood burner and burning at a hell-like temperature~ :) the whole debate about "fake TYs vs. genuine TYs" is easily resolved by my lil "recap" of info in my TY thread that you so kindly quoted above...in order to VERIFY the authenticity of TYs, ALL 3 of those factors must be there, meaning, the corresponding rated speed + correct media ID coding + most importantly the inner hub coding = genuine Taiyo Yudens~ ;) and on a side note, Taiyo Yuden media is ONLY "made in japan," they could be packaged in China or wrapped in tape-spindle for shippping in Taiwan, or have the "labelling" portion (paper insert added on top of unbranded Taiyo Yudens in cakeboxes here in the U.S.) done on Mars, BUT, if they are MANUFACTURED ANYWHERE ELSE other than Japan, they are FAKES~ :)
there ya have it, Taiyo Yuden lesson 101, hope that helps~ :)
docTy~
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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1. March 2006 @ 02:54 |
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hehe hi buddy, i'm starting to play catchup, starting with the media forum. those TYG02 i had/have so much trouble with, were indeed Bulkpaq 8x Orange, only a few days ago one of those discs that could never be copied but always watched, went south on me so i now use that disc as a drinks coaster as have no woodburner now i live on dry land. but good to read that the Panasonic discs are genuine TY then, saw the odd thread mentioning them but had not come across them before. just bought myself a posh Panasonic dvd recorder but still haven't seen any Panasonic discs anywhere; bought a tub of Imation dvd-rw for the recorder (i know i despise Imation but rewritables are more forgiving than normal write-once discs, never did figure out why), but anyway, i wish svp would stock up soon
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1. March 2006 @ 03:03 |
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Just got a reply, bit touchey about the subject!
Could people let me know if what he is saying is correct?
From : Terry <Him>
Sent : 01 March 2006 12:11:20
To : <Me>
Subject : re: Verbatims
Hi Paul,Verbatim use MCC Dye not CMC Try there euro website. Whats SVP.co.uk got to do with it, as I am indepentant from them and there errors on there website,however on the odd occasion Verbitim farm out work to other manufacture's i.e T Yuden when MMC can't cope,this is this 1 of those occasions( dye can be checked with any disc identity programme and has been by other Ebayers check my Feedback) and I was lucky enough obtain a batch, down to last 9 tubs and going like Hot cakes,therefore can't offer any discounts @ the prices shown of any discription,kind regards Terry.
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1. March 2006 @ 03:06 |
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hello buddy~ :) my memory isn't as good as it once was, but i've read your posts about your "horror story" experiences with fake TYs, so i guess i "guessed" correctly :)
Panasonic branded discs are VERY hard to find here in the U.S., and i guess that is also the case with you boys over in the UK~ very few people over here have even SEEN them for sale, let alone actually got their hands on any...but, you know me, i've tried pretty much everything i can get my hands on over here in the U.S...from the piss-poor (CMC-MAG/Princo) to the Taiyo Yudens that i use now...and everything (well, i would have to figure about 80% of ALL media available in the U.S.) in between~ (ie. MCC, Prodisc, Optodisc, Ritek, AML, Infodisc, Philips, Moser Baer, Sony, and ewwww TDK, generic ones, etc..u get the point, my list is in NO particular order) :)
anyways, good to see ya around these parts again, the media forum, i've always enjoyed your witty comments/posts and look forward to more now that your situated ON LAND~ :) good luck with everything my friend, cheers~
docTY~
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
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TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
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1. March 2006 @ 03:39 |
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bli, this thread has grown some-what since my last post!
wana say thanks for the time taken for that post way up there somewhere from mr DOC! it helped to put a few things into place!
so basically,
Datasafe Pro (Taiyo Yuden) 8x DVD-R ADVDInfo: TYG02
Panasonic Printable (8x) DVD-R ADVDInfo: TYG02
are a safe bet to use and should be jst as good as the verbs TY? if so i'll prob get some of them rather than hanging arnd waiting for creaky's order to go through before finding the verbs to be out of stock again!
as for the ebay issue that's cropped up, i jst wouldn't bother, its too easy for people to get scammed.. as i said before (on the last page i think it was), theres no way of actually knowing they're TY dics from the pics provided.. they're not branded any differently and the only way to distinguish that they are TY is just by looking for the 'made in japan' quote on the packaging, 'hub code (GD/GG/GH****)' and 'TY' ID product codes which cant be seen from the photographs the seller provides anyways.
so doc are the datasafe and panasonic TY02's from svp.com a safe bet?
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1. March 2006 @ 03:53 |
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Hey piggyot, I've gone for some of those panasonics, from what docTY says and svp, they're genuine and should be fine.
When I get the discs, if any of you want to know any info on the discs like inner hub codes or whatever, just say and I'll get them for you.
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so doc are the datasafe and panasonic TY02's from svp.com a safe bet?
if it was ME, i would personally trust them as being GENUINE Taiyo Yudens, it really depends on how HIGHLY you value and trust SVP's reputation of giving out ACCURATE information on their media prior to purchase~ :) from all the comments i've read regarding SVP, even though i never have nor even COULD deal with them personally (due to location of course), i would trust them~ :)
the only "problem" i could foresee as a POSSIBILITY on these 2 brands of discs that use the Taiyo Yuden dye/made by Taiyo Yuden is that you receiving the proverbial "bad batch" that DOES occur with ALL media manufacturers...this would obviously not be the fault of SVP as they only SELL the inventory they receive from the manufacturers, quality control on SVP's part can only realistically go so far...
but, in terms of getting GENUINE Taiyo Yudens, sold under a different "brand" name...i feel confident in giving those 2 a "try" :) just make sure you get the RIGHT ones (Datasafe Pro), i briefly just skimmed over SVP's offerings and the "other" datasafe media being sold is CRAP~! make sure you get the (Taiyo Yuden) one specifically~ hehe...and as to the Panasonic, like i said earlier, i've only used the "regular" non-printable ones before, they worked out well for me...i don't have any experience with the printables, just so you know ahead of time~ :)
reason i even bring that distinction up is that in terms of quality control (Ritek comes to mind immediately), their printables are deteriorating rapidly over a short time compared to their non-printables, as reported by MANY members here...once again, from MY OWN experience, i've used 500+ Ridata RitekG05s (8x dvd-r) with MUCH success, but seemingly, this is NOT THE CASE with Ritek's white-inkjet-printables using the same dye~ (RitekG05) :) quality control has DEFINITELY gone south for the winter in Ritek's printable offerings~
FYI, my old Ridata RitekG05s (about 2 years ago they were initially burned) still hold up VERY well, using Nero cd-dvd speed quality scans, i still maintain scores of high 80's to low 90's on 2 year old discs~ :) these were the non-printable matte surface ones, sold under Ridata (which is Ritek's own house brand name) :)
good luck, if you do decide to try either the Datasafe Pro or the Panasonics, i'm be interested to know how they work out for you...cheers
*ps i made a new friend today and his name is piggyot* LOL
docTY~
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
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1. March 2006 @ 04:41 |
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hi DOC :)
now you know why i have no prob's with my RITEK, when i order from SVP, i know that i'll get exactly what i ask for.
don't really know whats happened with their printables i'm sure. i'll have to send them an email
as for ordering from that guy on ebay, i would'nt trust anyone who spells that badly
@ creaky HI :)
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1. March 2006 @ 12:02 |
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the Panasonic printables from SVP are genuine Taiyo Yuden.
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pieman
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2. March 2006 @ 10:34 |
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yup.those panasonic white printable 8x -rs are fine.nice disc actually burn well seem good quality.not so sure about the in your face white info markings around the hub but hey.@kivory pm me and ill send u a few to try.Ive just had a delivery.
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