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chip_on
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_ 		27. February 2006 @ 03:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I?ve encountered a problem using Verb 16X and not sure how to resolve. I have a Sony 800A DL burner that is rated for up to 16X. I use Nero 6 burning rom as my program of choice for burning. I recently bought a 100 pack of Verb 16X from Best Buy. Every movie I burn on these disks cannot be played on any of my 3 DVD players. It seems as if none of the players can recognize the disk.

I?m burning at 6X, the slowest speed available via Nero on this drive, booktyped as DVD Rom and nothing seems to work. Have burned numerous Verb 8X?s with no problems in the past.

Can the problem be related to the DVD players and why? Any suggestions on how to eliminate all of the recent coasters would be appreciated.
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saugmon
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_ 		27. February 2006 @ 11:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I can see 1 of those players having trouble with them,but all 3?

Are they actually burned? Look at the bottom/dye side for the discoloration of the burn.

Throw one of those socalled coasters into your sony dru 800A and play it on your pc. See how it reacts to them.

If that sony burner recognizes those verbatim +16x backups:

Download this free program called dvdidentifier:

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd-r_tools/dvd_...

Insert backup into the sony drive/open up dvdidentifier/select sony dru800A as the drive/click identify/click log.

Then paste that log into your next post. I want to make sure those backups are actually booktyped. Maybe your setting got swiched.

It'll look just like this,and these are actually booktyped wher it says: Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD-ROM]

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:YUDEN000-T02-000]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD-ROM]
Manufacturer Name : [Taiyo Yuden Co. Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID : [YUDEN000]
Media Type ID : [T02]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Take note of what the current firmware version is on your sony burner. Dvdidentifier will tell you that also.


What program are you using to booktype?

If that sony don't recognize those backups,something else is wrong. Also paste in a Nero burn log if you can.

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chip_on
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_ 		27. February 2006 @ 13:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll report back in the morning. I'm almost positive they are burned because I tried to test the differences in the quality of the burns at the various burn speeds using the Nero test (can't remember the name of the app and am not at home on my machine). At least several of the discs were run thru and I was able to get appropriate quality results varying from 84% to 95%. (I'm sticking with either 6x or 8x max for any burns).

As for the players - 1 is an older moder JVC, another is a Toshiba dual VHS/DVD deck that is less than a year old (not sure of the modle #). The 3rd maching is at my in-laws and I don't know that brand. I agree that I might have expected problems on the older JVC but didn't think the Toshiba would have a problem, especially if set as DVD-Rom.

The one thing I didn't check (and the most obvious cause it just hit me in the face) was to see if the 800A or my older NEC burner could play it.
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chip_on
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_ 		28. February 2006 @ 02:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did more checking last nite. Looks like I had a combination of problems. I believe I had a bad burn on 1 of the disks and also have a player that has problems reading the 16x media. One of the disks was read perfectly on the Sony DRU 800a. I was also able to get it to read fine on my Toshiba player. However, the older JVC player wouldn?t ever recognize it. I reburnt it on both 16x and 8x media (logs for both burns shown below). The 8x read fine on both players however, the 16 x only worked sporadically on the JVC. Sometimes it would start playing and then get very pixilated and stop reading. On the Toshiba, there were no problems reading the 16x at all.

Is this common? Will I need to replace the JVC player or is it simply a result of a marginal quality burn?




Here?s the info from DVD Identifier for the Verb 8x media


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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MCC-003-000]
---------------------------------------------
Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD-ROM]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC]
Media Type ID : [003]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]
--------------------------------------------
[ DVD Identifier V4.3.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
--------------------------------------------



Here?s the Nero Burn Log from the burn for this disk


xxx

xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 7/17/2002 8:20:56 AM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 5:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b

Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DRU-800A> Version: KY03 - HA 1 TA 4 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A >Version: 1.0B - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <nvatabus> HA 0

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1600AB-22DYA0 nvatabus Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DRU-800A nvatabus Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A nvatabus Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A E: CDRom1
SONY DVD RW DRU-800A D: CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 66060288 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 447MB (458224kB)
Free physical memory: 144MB (147492kB)
Memory in use : 67 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

27.2.2006
UDF/ISO compilation
7:39:25 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started

7:39:25 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

7:39:25 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
UDF document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

7:39:25 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files sorted

7:39:25 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

7:39:25 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer SONY DVD RW DRU-800A running

7:39:25 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:39:25 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:39:25 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

7:39:25 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2253359 (500:44.59, 4401MB)

7:39:25 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

7:39:25 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: SONY DVD RW DRU-800A, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: MCC, Media Type ID: 003, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

7:39:25 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

7:39:25 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2253360 (2253360) = #2253360/500:44.60
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2253360 blocks [SONY DVD RW DRU-800A]
--------------------------------------------------------------

7:39:25 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [SONY DVD RW DRU-800A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4614881280, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2253360 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

7:39:25 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

7:39:25 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
Cache writing successful.

7:39:25 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

7:39:25 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 6x (8,310 KB/s)

7:39:25 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

7:39:26 PM #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: MCC.....
Media type ID: 003
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 4D 43 43 00 00 - 00 00 00 30 30 33 00 38 ...MCC.....003.8
23 54 37 12 02 42 6E 02 - A8 6B 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..Bn..k......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

7:39:26 PM #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5618
Drive: SONY DVD RW DRU-800A
Book Type request [LO]: DVD-ROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

7:39:26 PM #23 CDR -1211 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5056
Book Type set to: DVD-ROM

7:39:26 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 665
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

7:49:25 PM #25 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<SONY DVD RW DRU-800A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2253360 (226230h), lenght 0 blocks

7:49:25 PM #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

7:49:54 PM #27 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5618
Drive: SONY DVD RW DRU-800A
Book Type request [LO]: DVD+R
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

7:49:54 PM #28 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 6x (8,310 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 7/17/2002 7:53:02 AM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.38a, size=16288 bytes, created 4/18/2002 2:02:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\InCDfs.SYS': Ver=4, 3, 20, 1, size=101504 bytes, created 7/25/2005 10:53:28 AM (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)
File 'Drivers\InCDpass.SYS': Ver=4, 3, 20, 1, size=29696 bytes, created 7/25/2005 10:53:04 AM (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)
File 'Drivers\InCDrec.SYS': Ver=4, 3, 20, 1, size=8704 bytes, created 7/25/2005 10:53:30 AM (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)
File 'Drivers\nvatabus.sys': Ver=5.10.2600.0366 built by: WinDDK, size=54656 bytes, created 9/2/2003 3:51:00 PM (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)



Here?s the DVD Identifier for the 16x burn

---------------------------------------------------------
Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MCC-004-000]
---------------------------------------------------------
Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD-ROM]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC]
Media Type ID : [004]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x , 6x-16x]
----------------------------------------------------------
[ DVD Identifier V4.3.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
-----------------------------------------------------------


xxx

xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx9

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 7/17/2002 8:20:56 AM
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 5:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b

Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DRU-800A> Version: KY03 - HA 1 TA 4 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A >Version: 1.0B - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <nvatabus> HA 0

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1600AB-22DYA0 nvatabus Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DRU-800A nvatabus Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A nvatabus Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A E: CDRom1
SONY DVD RW DRU-800A D: CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 66060288 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 447MB (458224kB)
Free physical memory: 103MB (105992kB)
Memory in use : 76 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

27.2.2006
UDF/ISO compilation
7:27:10 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started

7:27:10 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

7:27:10 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
UDF document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : UDF/ISO bridge
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

7:27:10 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files sorted

7:27:10 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

7:27:10 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer SONY DVD RW DRU-800A running

7:27:10 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:27:10 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

7:27:10 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

7:27:11 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2253359 (500:44.59, 4401MB)

7:27:11 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

7:27:11 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: SONY DVD RW DRU-800A, Media type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: MCC, Media Type ID: 004, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 7

7:27:11 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

7:27:11 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2253360 (2253360) = #2253360/500:44.60
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2253360 blocks [SONY DVD RW DRU-800A]
--------------------------------------------------------------

7:27:11 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [SONY DVD RW DRU-800A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4614881280, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2253360 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

7:27:11 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

7:27:11 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
Cache writing successful.

7:27:11 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

7:27:11 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 6x (8,310 KB/s)

7:27:11 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

7:27:11 PM #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 7 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: MCC.....
Media type ID: 004
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 07 4D 43 43 00 00 - 00 00 00 30 30 34 00 38 ...MCC.....004.8
23 54 37 12 02 54 6C 02 - 92 5F 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 #T7..Tl.._......
01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

7:27:11 PM #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5618
Drive: SONY DVD RW DRU-800A
Book Type request [LO]: DVD-ROM
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

7:27:11 PM #23 CDR -1211 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5056
Book Type set to: DVD-ROM

7:27:11 PM #24 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 665
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

7:37:03 PM #25 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<SONY DVD RW DRU-800A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2253360 (226230h), lenght 0 blocks

7:37:03 PM #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

7:37:31 PM #27 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5618
Drive: SONY DVD RW DRU-800A
Book Type request [LO]: DVD+R
Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

7:37:31 PM #28 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 6x (8,310 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 7/17/2002 7:53:02 AM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.38a, size=16288 bytes, created 4/18/2002 2:02:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\InCDfs.SYS': Ver=4, 3, 20, 1, size=101504 bytes, created 7/25/2005 10:53:28 AM (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)
File 'Drivers\InCDpass.SYS': Ver=4, 3, 20, 1, size=29696 bytes, created 7/25/2005 10:53:04 AM (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)
File 'Drivers\InCDrec.SYS': Ver=4, 3, 20, 1, size=8704 bytes, created 7/25/2005 10:53:30 AM (InCD4 driver for win NT/2K/XP)
File 'Drivers\nvatabus.sys': Ver=5.10.2600.0366 built by: WinDDK, size=54656 bytes, created 9/2/2003 3:51:00 PM (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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ashj
Member
_ 		28. February 2006 @ 08:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Looks like Nero is reporting your DMA set to off on both drives.

You can enable this in device manager by uninstalling the drivers (primary IDE).

Update to Nero latest version 6.6.1.4



check this guide by Alkohol (member @ afterdawn) for DMA

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/260038

Have a Read at this for general Nero compliance;

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45942
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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 28. February 2006 @ 08:28
Mort81
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_ 		28. February 2006 @ 08:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I can see several problems.
Quote:
Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
Update Nero 6. Latest vs is 6.6.1.4
Quote:
Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DRU-800A> Version: KY03
Needs to be flashed with updated firmware. Curent f/w is KY06 http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2074
Quote:
CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A >Version: 1.0B
Needs to be flashed with updated firmware. Current f/w is 1.0C http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1517
Quote:
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DRU-800A nvatabus Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A nvatabus Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
DMA should be on. Here's a guide http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/checking%20DMA.pdf
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chip_on
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_ 		28. February 2006 @ 13:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Guys - I appreciate the help and willingness to look over my problems. It's usually the obvious things that we all tend to overlook. I stared and stared at the logs several times and never noticed that the DMA was off.

Sometimes it just takes another pair of eyes.

I'll update the firmware for both drives and reset the DMA and see if that fixes my problem

Thanks again.
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_ 		28. February 2006 @ 15:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I can't believe you burned those backups in around 10 minutes with your dma's off. It usually takes forever,and errors out.

When it comes to playing backups,some of those stand alones can be very tricky. I've encountered a player that would play Verbatim +4x-MCC-002,but wouldn't even recognize a Verbatim +4x=Ricohjpn.

I've also witnessed a few players that would play my Nero backups,but poor playback issues with dvd decryer's burn engine on their ISO read and write backups.


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chip_on
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_ 		1. March 2006 @ 02:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK here-the latest - I flashed both of my drives with the newest firmware and then attempted to reset the controller to allow DMA.

The IDE controller in my system is an NVidia card. When I look at the transfer mode for both Primary and Secondary channels, it indicates that it is set to DMA 5 Ultra 100 for the primary and DMA 5 Ultra 32 for the secondary as the default. Even so I deleted the drivers and let windows reinstall. Both came back with the same. Then went into Nero Info and found that it indicates both drive as Autorun but no indication of DMA being on or off. Didn't burn a disk to look at the log to see if Nero still shows DMA as being off.

Could the DMA really be on but Nero simply doesn't recognize it as on? The burn times reflected in the log are pretty consistent with what I've been experiencings. About 10+ min for a burn at 6x and about 8 min for a burn at 8x.

Also didn't update to the newest verrsion of Nero yet. I've got version 7 ready to install but have been waiting for additional updates to clear all of the typicall new version bugs.
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ashj
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_ 		1. March 2006 @ 03:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you have Nvidia Ide drivers installed the yes,

It was quite well documented on various internet sites, when i built my PC. I used microsofts Ide drivers because of the problems at that time.


http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/nforce-drivers-causing-dma-proble...

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=97157

Your DMA will almost certainly be on, but not getting reported accurately to Nero.

I'd update Nero version, seeing you've already flashed your drives and try the burn on those verbs again.

If you've been burning with no issues previously then, as i mentioned, your DMA is probably getting miss-reported to Nero.
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_ 		1. March 2006 @ 04:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sounds like you're in good hands here.. i'll teleport the thread to the Nero forum
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chip_on
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_ 		1. March 2006 @ 07:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks to all for the help. I'll get Nero updated this weekend and see how the burns go after that.

The help received from everyone is definitely appreciated. !!!!!
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drnknja
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_ 		1. March 2006 @ 08:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
now the one thing i would say is just update to 6.6.0.18 i wouldn't go any further then that i have nvidia and with 6.6.0.18 i have no problems at all any more
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