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When you copy a game from the original to a disc does it always work?
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racerzeke
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2. March 2006 @ 18:32 |
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Sometimes it works for me, and sometimes it doesnt... is there something i can do to make them work all the time? rebuild? how do you do this? =)
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2. March 2006 @ 23:25 |
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you search the forum. If the game needs rebuilding, you read 1 of the many posts describing the process.
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5. March 2006 @ 20:53 |
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games ONLY need re-building if they are too big to fit on a disc. very few games in my experience need rebuilding.
unsucsessful burns are usually because of cheap media or burning too fast. use good media like taiyo yuden, verbatim, sony (japan) discs. and burn at 1X or 2X.
some ps2's get problems with DVD+R so i personally would recommend dvd-r
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5. March 2006 @ 21:30 |
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umm the only games that need to be rebuilt are ones played via the use of swapping. a real modchip like the DMS4 Pro SE or the Matrix Infinity green dot, do not require rebuilding or patching.
media quality is very important but the burning speed is VERY dependent on your firmware/burner combination as well as the ability of your PC. 8x and above media is designed to never be written to below 4x speed, doing so can cause ink burn through and errors, burn ALL disks at half the rated speed for optimal results.
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5. March 2006 @ 21:41 |
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@kc some games are over 4.5GB file size (50 cent, guy game) so need to be rebuilt (i have not had many like this but have had a few) no matter what chip you have the game need to be rebuilt to fit on the disc.
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5. March 2006 @ 22:00 |
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Wake up and smell the technology, get a dual layer burner and dual layer disks, NO GAME requires rebuilding. your way outdated, catch up.
kc
EDIT: i paid 40 bucks for my Pioneer DL burner, a DVR-110D, and the disks i gave about 2 bucks each so the cost of technology isnt high........ I've backed up every dual layer game that is of interest to me (about 8 of them) and all play perfectly.
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5. March 2006 @ 22:24 |
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i am fully awake & aware of the technology i already have a dual layer burner so am not "outdated" just do not see the point in spending $2 for dual layer discs that usually give burn failures, when i can get good branded single layer discs for $0.30 especially when there is only a few games that may need dual layer, in my opinion it is not worth the money especially when it is so easy to rebuild the game & get the same results. the initial post asked if games need to be rebuilt i was explaining that very few NEED to be rebuilt for people who choose not to spend $2 a disc
like i said that is just my opinion & however you wish to make your back ups is up to you, each to their own. there is no need to be rude about these things & "assume' that people are "outdated"
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5. March 2006 @ 22:31 |
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look back now, in EVERY post you've made in this thread you've insisted that some games have to be rebuilt (no matter what chip you have the game need to be rebuilt to fit on the disc.) and that is completely false. just because you think 2 bucks is to much to pay for a $50 game doesn't negate the fact that they do NOT require rebuilding. as well as the failed burns you experienced have nothing at all to do with it being dual layered, it's simple operator error. i do apologize if you find the truth to be rude, but as I'm sure you've heard before, the truth hurts sometimes.
again, the ONLY games that have a necessity to be rebuilt are the ones that have compatibility issues with Swap Magic, those are the ones over 4.3 gig in size if memory serves me, regardless of if they are single layered or dual.
kc
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5. March 2006 @ 23:07 |
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i do not use dual layer as i have seen how many experienced people on here have had bad burns, as for paying $2 to back up a $50 game i think that paying $0.30 to back up a $50 game is probably the prefence of many people, in my last post i quite clearly stated that they NEED to be rebuilt to fit a single layer disc there is nothing false about that statement!
your rude statement was nothing to do with "failed burns" it was the fact that you "assume" people are outdated,
like i said the ORIGINAL post asked if games were failing because they needed rebuilding & i explained only some games need to be rebuilt - maybe i should of wrote some games "MAY" need to be rebuilt if not using dual layer disc like kc does, prehaps that would of made you happy & not led to this charade that there is no need for.
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5. March 2006 @ 23:11 |
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you insist on calling me rude because you were wrong and i pointed it out......geeze you really do need to lighten up a little.
as for the preference of spending $.30 on a disk and then spend time rebuilding it, or pay 2 bucks and do a 1-1 burn, my time is worth much more then the $2 disks so i come out ahead, if your time is worth nothing, then please continue to rebuild every game you copy, but do not post that is is a necessity, it's not.
also in your original post you said "games ONLY need re-building if they are too big to fit on a disc." people who rebuild games do so because they use SM (or chips that don't boot DL or dont have access to DL backups) and have issues with games over 4.3G, even a game that fits on a 4.7G single layer that is over that size restriction will not work if not rebuilt....any way you look at it you gave false information. suck it up and go on, the longer you keep commenting back and forth the more you show how little you know on the subject.
kc
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6. March 2006 @ 10:39 |
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no - being rude is when you tell someone they are outdated when you have no clue of what technology they have. everybodys time is worth money but come on it's not hard to rebuild a game now is it & doesn't take up much time.
as for rebuilding "every game" i back up, read the thread - i quite cleary stated that very few are too big to fit on a disc, as for rebuilding to use SM - yes you are correct i know nothing about it, as i have never had to rebuild a game to use swap magic.
in my experience all the games that are over 4.7gb & have been rebuilt have worked flawlessly.
as for me giving false information - you are wrong some games need to be rebuilt to fit on a single layer dvd, as for swap magic like i said i have never encountered the problem, so never rebuilt one just so as i can use it with SM.
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the more you show how little you know on the subject
i do not claim to know everything, but what i do know & have experienced i can share with other people & asnwer some of their questions, unfortunatly from time to time there are rude, obnoxious people who post on these forums, and rather than point another solution out in a nice way i.e - you wouldnt have to rebuild to fit on a dual layer disc -they just tend to be rude & obnoxious about it.
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6. March 2006 @ 10:58 |
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from your first post in this thread:
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games ONLY need re-building if they are too big to fit on a disc. very few games in my experience need rebuilding.
no way around it, that statement is WRONG, there are absolutely no games that require rebuilding. different forms of modding require rebuilding of games but no game its self requires it to be done, single layer game, single layer disk........dual layer game, dual layer disk. simple enough even a child can understand that.
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@kc some games are over 4.5GB file size (50 cent, guy game) so need to be rebuilt (i have not had many like this but have had a few) no matter what chip you have the game need to be rebuilt to fit on the disc.
again WRONG, for the same reasons mentioned above, if it's bigger then 4.7 gig then it is intended for a dual layer disk, it doesn't make it a necessity to rebuild.
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the initial post asked if games need to be rebuilt i was explaining that very few NEED to be rebuilt for people who choose not to spend $2 a disc
a complete lie, not once did you mention that they needed to be rebuilt ONLY if you were not using dual layer media, you insisted that any game over 4.5 gig required rebuilding to fit on a disk.
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in my last post i quite clearly stated that they NEED to be rebuilt to fit a single layer disc there is nothing false about that statement!
another lie, not once have you even mentioned it being single v/s dual layer disks, your simply backpedaling trying to cover your false statements.
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i quite cleary stated that very few are too big to fit on a disc
yes you did, and you were quite clearly wrong, no game requires rebuilding. your circumstances may require it but no game has a mandatory rebuild, use the right chip and the right media and they'll back up 1-1 all day. you also continue to back peddle in that last post, you posted falsely no amount of backpedaling is going to correct that.
kc
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6. March 2006 @ 11:15 |
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i was explaining that very few NEED to be rebuilt for people who choose not to spend $2 a disc
TRUE!
all you keep doing is going on & on & on & on & on about dual layer discs, well like i said
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maybe i should of wrote some games "MAY" need to be rebuilt if not using dual layer disc like kc does
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the initial post asked if games need to be rebuilt i was explaining that very few NEED to be rebuilt for people who choose not to spend $2 a disc
i did not say word for word that games need to be rebuilt to fir on a single layer disc but wrote that for those who prefer to spend $2 a disc - refering to DUAL LAYER DISCS.
it really isn't that hard to work out.
anyway this is enough of this, this is just getting ridiculous & there is absolutley no need for this all i am trying to do is help someone out, and do not have them time to waste arguing about how things were phrased, i could of rebuilt a game by now with the time i spent on here. LOL
like i said yes maybe i should of wrote that it needs to be rebuilt if you are NOT using dual layer. i already stated this (not word for word!)
lets just end all this arguing & move forward
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6. March 2006 @ 11:24 |
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your still trying to backpedal and your still full of it.
the original question asked was:
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When you copy a game from the original to a disc does it always work?
the answer is YES, they work every time.
you stated that some need rebuilding........you now say you meant to include that they only need it if they were to big to fit a single layer disk.....but we all know you didn't mean that because you went on to say that it didn't matter what chip you had, if the game was over 4.5g it HAD TO BE REBUILT.
some useful advice to you, when your in a hole, put the shovel down. your only digging this hole deeper and no amount of 'well i said this, but i meant this' is going to right your wrong.
kc
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6. March 2006 @ 11:30 |
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like i said time & time again - i should of wrote if not using dual layer
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6. March 2006 @ 11:46 |
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agreed.
kc
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6. March 2006 @ 14:23 |
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it depends on what programs you use and how fast you burn at.
and what format you burn it to.
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