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Skankin11

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3. March 2006 @ 01:16

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Hello to everyone. I am looking for help!

I am backing up movies. I always use DVD Shrink and save as an ISO Image File. Then I "Burn Image to disc" using Nero at 4x speed. I prefer using DVD-R's and have about half spindles (100) left of two types: TDK Printable 16x DVD-R, Verbatim 16x DVD-R. These two types worked very well with two other dvd drives I'd had in the past (and no longer have access to). I have been very successful using these ripping/shrinking/burning methods. But I now have a new computer and it has a new DVD recording drive and I'm running into problems I've never had before.

The new drive is a Memorex Dual Format DVD Recorder. It burns at 16x DVD+R, and 8x DVD-R. I can use DVD Shrink successfully but I'm not able to burn. I keep getting the error "Burn process failed at 4x" and "Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16 Illegal Disc". I've tried burning at slower speeds too, to no avail. This happens with both brands of 16x DVD-R's. The drive and Nero does recognize the media, but it doesn't give me the option to burn at 16x (understandable considering the limitations of the burner).

I tried burning with the same methods with 8x DVD+R Arita media. This was successful. However, I only have a few of these discs and tons of the 16x DVD-R's.

I could only think of one thing that's messing me up. My drive burns DVD-R's at 8x, and the media I'm using is 16x. But since I'm overriding all of this and choosing to burn at an even lower speed of 4x, I don't see why I'm having a problem.

Any help would be most appreciated. Since I am a newbie I may not have given you the info you need to help me figure out this problem. If more is needed just tell me what and I'll try to find it for you.

Below is my failed Nero burn log.

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.68, size=160016 bytes, created 7/22/2004 5:33:44 PM
Nero version: 6.3.1.20 (Nero Express)
Recorder: <Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16>Version: BWSE - HA 2 TA 1 - 6.3.1.20
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 2
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM: <LITE-ON COMBO SOHC-4836K>Version: SPK1 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.3.1.20
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 2

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON COMBO SOHC-4836K atapi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16 atapi Port 2 ID 1 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG SP0802N atapi Port 3 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
LITE-ON COMBO SOHC-4836K E: CDRom0
Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16 F: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 66060288 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 447MB (458224kB)
Free physical memory: 106MB (109292kB)
Memory in use : 76 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

3.3.2006
Burn DVD Image
3:09:28 AM #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 126
Reader running

3:09:28 AM #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16 running

3:09:28 AM #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3173
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

3:09:28 AM #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 247
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2285993 (507:59.68, 4464MB)

3:09:28 AM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

3:09:28 AM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2162
Recorder: Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: TTH02 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

3:09:28 AM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 420
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

3:09:28 AM #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2285994 (2285994) = #2285994/507:59.69
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2285994 blocks [Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16]
--------------------------------------------------------------

3:09:28 AM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 984
Prepare recorder [Memorex DVD+/-DLRWL1 F16] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681715712, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2285994 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

3:09:28 AM #10 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
Caching of files started

3:09:28 AM #11 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4183
Cache writing successful.

3:09:28 AM #12 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
Caching of files completed

3:09:28 AM #13 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

3:09:28 AM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2344
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

3:09:28 AM #15 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
Set remaining time: 14:10,231 (850231ms) -> OK

3:09:28 AM #16 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1942
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

3:09:28 AM #17 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20513
Set BUFE: supported -> ON , Generic write control : ON

3:09:28 AM #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2083
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

3:09:28 AM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8128
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

3:09:30 AM #20 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1442
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x09F90000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

3:09:30 AM #21 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 304
Illegal disc

3:09:31 AM #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion

3:09:31 AM #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
conversion idle, stopping reader

3:09:31 AM #24 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2325
EndDAO: Last written address was -1

3:09:31 AM #25 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

3:09:31 AM #26 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1713
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

3:09:31 AM #27 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1855
Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.27a, size=20576 bytes, created 1/26/2005 1:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 10:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

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ashj

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3. March 2006 @ 02:16

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** better remove your serial number from the Log (starting 1A**-****,

Update to latest Nero version 6.6.1.4

Media Specific [16..63]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

Your media is not being fully recognised as you said.

Memory in use : 76 % ......

Try closing uneeded programs when burning, your memory is low

memorex firmware for its drives seems poorly supported

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1925

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters.php?DVDnameid=109&Search=Sear...

sorry not got much time to look further (@work)

(and have a look at the videohelp shortcut for what folks have found to be good media for the drive)

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Skankin11

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3. March 2006 @ 09:34

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Ashj,

Thanks for your response. The Nero I am using was the Nero packaged with the drive. I am currently updating to the version you recommended.

Sorry about being mistaken about the drive recognizing my media. I assumed that since it gave me burn speed options (2x, 2.4x and 4x) when I put the disc into the drive, at least it was recognizing it.

I took a look at the link you gave me about what media worked with this drive. The ones I was using wasn't listed, but in general the few recomemdations were all 8x DVD+/-R's.

Am I wrong to think that a 8x DVD-R burner should be able to burn 16x media at a 4x rate? It's not like I'm trying to burn the media at a rate not supported by the drive... Or, am I just an idiot and it's common sense that a drive that burns 8x DVD-R can ONLY accept media 8x or lower, no matter what speed you actually burn at?

So far that kinda seems like the case since I was successful with 2 types of media that was 8x (HP 8x DVD-R and Arita 8x DVD+R), but I'm almost out of them! If so, bah! I have tons of 16x and a quick trip to the office store yields zippo 8x DVD+/- media. Seems like it's kinda old technology because only 16x and up was stocked.

Maybe on a side note... Anybody know a good place to buy 8x DVD-R media that is dependable but won't break the bank? Thanks again and I'll keep you updated on the Nero Update!

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Skankin11

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3. March 2006 @ 09:40

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Sorry! One other bit concerning my available memory. I too noticed the 76% memory usage. But I didn't have any other qppilactions open at the time! Only Nero. I even restarted the computer to start fresh. Maybe my computer just has low memory to begin with? It's kinda a cheapie.

Umm.. Here are my computer specs..
AMD Sempron 3000+ processor
512 MB DDR DRAM Memory
80 GB 7200RPM Ultra DMA hard drive

Maybe this info might explain something? Again, thanks loads for your assistance.

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ashj

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4. March 2006 @ 05:45

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hi again Shankin,

this is an example of the media being covered by the burners firmware (nero log)

Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 0 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: RICOHJPN
Media type ID: W11
Product revision number: 1
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 57
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 52 49 43 4F 48 - 4A 50 4E 57 31 31 01 39 ...RICOHJPNW11.9
23 00 8A 86 68 02 26 00 - 8A 86 70 02 28 00 8A 86 #...h.&...p.(...
6A 02 28 22 12 10 E0 00 - F0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 j.("............

ALL 3 lines contain info

and one where the firmware does'nt

Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

If the media codes on your disc are not covered by the burners firmware, they don't understand each other and the burner is trying to use a generic write strategy for the disc. In most cases it will not work out and you end up with a "power calibration error" or "illegal disc" or such similar error.

Such as yours ;

Media Specific [16..63]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

3:09:30 AM #20 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1442
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x09F90000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

3:09:30 AM #21 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 304
Illegal disc

Quote:
Am I wrong to think that a 8x DVD-R burner should be able to burn 16x media at a 4x rate?

In a word...Yes

Your burners firmware must be able to deal with individual media to be able to write to it successfully, thats why you should stick with media that has been know to perform well with your burner, or is certified in yor burners firmware of compatible media.

Quote:
I too noticed the 76% memory usage. But I didn't have any other qppilactions open at the time! Only Nero

It is low, but not critical...

your system has 512mb so it always take quite a chunk of that when burning. I assume your unplugged from the net and have shut down anti virus programs etc.

also...remember to keep your burners Firmware and burning and ripping software up to date.

i) Make sure all your drivers are up to date (including main board)
ii) Defragment your hard disk at least once a week.
iii) Keep your burn speed to half the media rating.

On the media side I'm in the UK and use www.svp.co.uk

Generally, Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim, are two of the highest rated media.

If your in the USA or Europe then I'm sure a few others will be able to give you good pointers on places to buy good media.

Its all about finding media which works best for your burner and particular setup.

wishing u luck...ashj

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Skankin11

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6. March 2006 @ 13:34

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Askj,

I want to thank you for your comments and trying to help me figure out my problem. I updated to the version of Nero 6.6.1.4. Unfortunately still no luck. Like you posted earlier, it does seem like this burner's firmware is poorly supported. I've even read excerpts from users online documenting more problems when they tried updating. It makes me hesitant to trust Memorex for the firmware upgrades. All the 8x dics (dvd+r and dvd-r) work without problems. 16x dvd+r's work also. But Verbatim 16x DVD-R discs still don't work. Too bad. I guess I'll just have to stick with the 8x speed (at least when -r's are concerned) to get it to work right, and one day I'll upgrade to a better (or at least better supported) burner.

PS.. Hey, anyone out there wanna swap a buncha 16x dvd-r's for 8x ones?

Cheers!

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