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OhNoes01
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6. March 2006 @ 09:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've had this problem for a little while, but now it's on every single dvd I burn. Every time I burn a dvd there are playback errors on my dvd player and pc, as if the frames are missing. it also occurs on data-dvds which I burn with Nero.

DVD Writer: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H542A TS07 (ATA) (Samsung)
(According to samsung this product has been discontinued)
Writing Program: DVD Decrypter
DVD Manufacturer ID: RITEKG05
Supported Write Speeds: 2x, 4x
(I bought them from: http://www.cd-rmedia.co.uk/cgi-bin2/details.pl?id=ritekpr8x )
Running Windows 2000 SP4, 256Mb RAM, 60GB maxtor hard drive, 2.40GHz

Note: The website says the discs are 8x, and the box for my burner says it supports 8x writing. could this mean that the discs are fake? I'm always getting recommended these differents discs, and I usually find out they don't work. Does anyone have a decent not too expensive brand+type that I can use without having to worry?

I've made sure that the DMA option is set, I don't run any other programs while burning, I check the discs are clean from dust and scratches and I reboot prior to burning to make sure my system isn't lagged. However, even though nothing is else running, sometimes the buffer will drop to around 60% for around 10 seconds (but the device buffer stays to 98-99%), I suspect that this is where it's usually messing up. I usually write at 4x, I tried 2x which caused the disc to have errors from the start. Are there any system services I need to start or can stop to reduce cpu load?

I checked over a few dvd's I've burnt and the problem usually occurs just after the middle and towards the end of the movie, however 2 recent ones have had problems from the initial start of the disc at the studio logos.

Checked over 2 discs with DVDinfo and got these:

[First disc]
Drive - TSSTCORPCD/DVDW TS-H542A
Media ID Code - RITEKG05
Media Type - DVD-R
Read Error list
1. Error - LBA = 001e9200h
2. Error - LBA = 001fcd90h
3. Error - LBA = 001fcd91h
4. Error - LBA = 001fcd92h
5. Error - LBA = 001fcd93h
6. Error - LBA = 001fcd94h
7. Error - LBA = 001fcd95h
8. Error - LBA = 001fcd96h
9. Error - LBA = 001fcd97h
10. Error - LBA = 001fcd98h
11. Error - LBA = 001fcd99h
12. Error - LBA = 001fcd9ah
13. Error - LBA = 001fcd9bh
14. Error - LBA = 001fcd9ch
15. Error - LBA = 001fcd9dh
16. Error - LBA = 001fcd9eh
17. Error - LBA = 001fcd9fh
18. Error - LBA = 001fcda0h
19. Error - LBA = 001fcda1h
20. Error - LBA = 001fcda2h

This went up to 78 errors and then finished.

[Second disc]
Drive - TSSTCORPCD/DVDW TS-H542A
Media ID Code - RITEKG05
Media Type - DVD-R
Read Error list
1. Error - LBA = 001bff30h
2. Error - LBA = 001bff31h
3. Error - LBA = 001bff32h
4. Error - LBA = 001bff33h
5. Error - LBA = 001bff34h
6. Error - LBA = 001bff35h
7. Error - LBA = 001bff36h
8. Error - LBA = 001bff37h
9. Error - LBA = 001bff38h
10. Error - LBA = 001bff39h
11. Error - LBA = 001bff3ah
12. Error - LBA = 001bff3bh
13. Error - LBA = 001bff3ch
14. Error - LBA = 001bff3dh
15. Error - LBA = 001bff3eh
16. Error - LBA = 001bff3fh
17. Error - LBA = 001bff40h
18. Error - LBA = 001bff41h
19. Error - LBA = 001bff42h
20. Error - LBA = 001bff43h

This one went to over 250 errors, and would've been more had I not stopped it.

I'm interested in knowing if this is a PC problem, burner problem or media problem or a mixture. If you have any info or tips then please help me out, this is really frustrating me.

I've been leaning towards a Pioneer 110 DVDWriter as a replacement, anyone have good alternatives to it or can offer a review?

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6. March 2006 @ 11:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Post a burn log from Nero and someone will look at it.

You can get good media here:
http://www.supermediastore.com/

Or locally at Sam's, Best Buy, OfficeMax, Office Depot etc. Good brands would be Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden, Sony, Fuji, Maxell (made in Japan).

As for the new burner, I would hold off til we have a look at your log...but if you really want a new one I would look here:
http://www.supermediastore.com/

My pick would be the NEC, but Lite-On's and BenQ's are very good as well.


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6. March 2006 @ 12:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Being that you are in the UK you might want to check out Verbatim, one of our moderators creaky highly recommends these.

http://svp.co.uk/


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6. March 2006 @ 14:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just finished this one:

Windows 2000 5.0
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 17:35:34
Nero Version: 6.6.0.8
Recorder: <TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H542A>Version: TS07 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.8
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <HITACHI DVD-ROM GD-2500 >Version: 0101 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.8
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y060L0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H542A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HITACHI DVD-ROM GD-2500 atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H542 D: CDRom0
HITACHI DVD-ROM GD-2500 E: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 36700160 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 223MB (228848kB)
Free physical memory: 29MB (30120kB)
Memory in use : 86 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

6.3.2006
UDF/ISO compilation
23:24:10 #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation started

23:24:10 #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

23:24:10 #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6172
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet :FALSE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

23:24:10 #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
DVD-Video files sorted

23:24:10 #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

23:24:10 #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H542A running

23:24:10 #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

23:24:10 #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

23:24:10 #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3153
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

23:24:11 #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2274399 (505:25.24, 4442MB)

23:24:11 #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 271
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

23:24:11 #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2316
Recorder: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H542A, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: RITEKG - 05
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

23:24:11 #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 433
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

23:24:11 #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2274400 (2274400) = #2274400/505:25.25
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2274400 blocks [TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H542A]
--------------------------------------------------------------

23:24:11 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
Prepare recorder [TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H542A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4657971200, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2274400 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

23:24:11 #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

23:24:11 #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4040
Cache writing successful.

23:24:11 #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

23:24:11 #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

23:24:11 #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2609
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

23:24:11 #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2194
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

23:24:11 #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21235
Set BUFE: Super Link -> ON

23:24:11 #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2340
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

23:24:11 #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8430
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 30 01 02 04 06 00 00 - 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 .0..............
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

23:38:41 #25 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
<TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H542A> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2274400 (22B460h), lenght 0 blocks

23:38:41 #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

23:38:42 #27 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2603
EndDAO: Last written address was 2274399

23:39:48 #28 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,540 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\CDR4_2K.SYS': Ver=5.3.2.31, size=58000 bytes, created 01/02/2006 23:04:00
File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=5.3.2.31, size=23420 bytes, created 01/02/2006 23:04:00
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.00.2195.6699, size=86672 bytes, created 19/06/2003 12:05:04 (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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6. March 2006 @ 14:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
Physical memory : 223MB (228848kB)
Free physical memory: 29MB (30120kB)
this is the first thing that jumps out at me, need to close down your other background progs. to free up more memory and later if your budget will allow it, buy another 256mb or even better a 512mb stick of ram to add to your system... having only 29mb of free memory available is borderline "GONNA CRAWL to a standstill" level~ :)
Quote:
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2274399 (505:25.24, 4442MB)
burning pretty close to the edge there aren't we? consider pulling the target back a little bit, perhaps 4300-4360mb?

i've had good success with RitekG05s, as has afterdawn member "gurnard"; he's in the UK also, he's been turning to Verbatims as of late from svp (i think) or locally and he's been pleased from what he tells me...i believe the Taiyo Yuden made Verbatims are no longer going to be carried by svp...i dunno, i'm in the U.S.~ :)

i never owned a Samsung drive, so i can't tell you from experience whether it likes Ritek media or not...i'm just chipping in from what i see in ur log that catches my eye

docTy~

Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
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OhNoes01
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6. March 2006 @ 15:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I had no other programs running while I was burning, and I never do, so why the free memory was so low is a mystery to me too. I'll hopefully be getting a ram upgrade soon.

The amount of data which was burnt to the DVD is what extracted was from the original .img file. I don't really want to start messing with files inside the video_ts folder incase it interferes with the playback.

I scanned the disc twice with 2 different programs and they both showed no errors at all. I'll watch it tomorrow and make 100% sure and maybe do a few more burns to see if it's working okay, but I'm puzzled as to why Nero manages to burn fine but DVD Decrypter messes up :/
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6. March 2006 @ 15:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
after the ram update you should do alot better, I only have 512 meg of ram on mine and it works well dvdshrink should be helpful to you as well, it will allow you to compress the file under 4330....
and go with verbatims they do work well..
Car.Mike
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6. March 2006 @ 16:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OhNoes01 ,
If that is a true .img file( no errors) then use ImgBurn as it will burn the image properly as long as you made the file proper.

When you do the next burn turn off the internet, AntiVirus, Firewall, Screensaver and just let Imgburn do the burn. As the others suggested ram would help but you can do the burn w/ the ram you have if you turn alot of processes off.

You do not need Shrink or anything to burn it. You stated DVDDecrypter failed to do the burn and if Imgburn fails then the file is corrupted. Where did the original file come from as you mentioned extracted from the original

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OhNoes01
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6. March 2006 @ 23:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I downloaded the .img file initially, I checked all the rars were fine before extracting.

DVD decrypter successfully burns the image, but for some reason it causes playback errors. Nero managed to burn it fine after i extracted all the files inside the .img and put it into the video_ts folder. I'll try imgburn later on today and see if it works.
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7. March 2006 @ 08:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OhNoes01,
Slow the burn down and see if that helps. I am glad that you got a copy w/ Nero but it has to be a problem w/ the blank media. I have not used Ritek's in over 1 year as I use only Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim. Initially when Ritek came out w/ the G05's there was a problem but I thought they removed all of that media. I hope you did not get one of the bad batches. You might even clean the DVD burner's lens as that can give you a problem. If it fails again change blank media
OhNoes01
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7. March 2006 @ 13:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tried imgburn just now, had the same errors as DVD Decrypter :/

also had a look in the performance tab of task manager and found that lots of ram is being used for system cache. is there any way to cut that down?

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File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=5.3.2.31, size=23420 bytes, created 01/02/2006 23:04:00
You also have Roxio installed, it and Nero dont go well together so I would recommend you uninstall Roxio and run Roxio Zapper

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninstallers/Roxio-Zap.shtml



guide by ScubaPete http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html Nero guide by alkohol http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/Guides/alkohol_guide3.html

New RipIt4Me + DVD Shrink + ImgBurn guid <==== Rip any DVDs http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/422740 Guides by bbmayo..... http://webpages.charter.net/bacitup/
OhNoes01
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9. March 2006 @ 08:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
back again. my machine crashed so I had to format. Now I'm using windows xp pro and the problem is even worse. the device buffer skips in a loop of 78%-82%-98% throughout the burn, and now both buffers will drop to 0%. I can hear the machine going crazy as if it's processing something but there is absolutely nothing else running.

I was using imgburn this time. is it possible this is a hardware problem instead of a media problem?
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9. March 2006 @ 09:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Instead of Using Nero try using CloneDVD 2 to write your image. This program uses little computer resources so should assist you in your problem. Also, I had a Samsung drive and Riteks are not its preferrred media of choice. I use Verbatim 8X DVD+R discs. I get 100pk from Sams Club for like $28. I burn everything at 4x and have not made a coaster in a few years. As far as getting a new drive, get a Plextor or NEC. I have the trayless Plextor, which cost around $85, but noise is minimal and burns are tremendous. Hope this helps.
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9. March 2006 @ 12:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Had same problem before, media - memorex 8x, some Sony 16x. Switched to Verbatium and TDK, no coasters! As previous post suggest, close any unneeded programs, virus protect, media players, even download accelerators (don't know why- Getright bogged down my burning 100%), Try programs ( freeware) dvdshrink, and dvdfab for sony encryptions.
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OhNoes01
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9. March 2006 @ 14:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
as far as I know CloneDVD2 works okay.

I burnt it on a mirror platinum 8x dvd-r MCC 02RG20 (wasn't able the manufactor+code on videohelp) and the scans with VSO Inspector and DVDinfopro came back positive, except for 3 white dots which appeared in the same place on both discs (burnt it twice using different methods).



is that something to worry about?

I then burnt it onto a Ritek disc and to no surprise it came back with a few errors.



I have it re-scanning using my DVD-rom drive now and I'm hoping it reads fine. If that isn't the case am I correct in assuming I got screwed with shit media? I'll watch the mirror disc tomorrow so I can be 100% sure it works and maybe I can switch to those until I'm able to buy some new discs.

edit: just finished scanning with dvd-rom drive...seems like its even worse.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 9. March 2006 @ 15:15

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