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chiefmac
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7. March 2006 @ 06:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've been having a lot of trouble lately with my backups freezing, skipping, or just plain out not working. There is a small chance that my slim PS2 laser isn't working as well as it once did. I think however, that the media I'm using and my burn method might contribute to the problem. I am currently using Philips 1-8x DVD-R. I use DVD Decrypter to back up my games. Now I know I need to get Taiyo Yuden media, but should I get DVD-R or DVD+R? Will I have to do anything different when backing up to a DVD+R for it to work on my PS2? Will those work with movies as well? Any help on this topic I appreciate. :)
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7. March 2006 @ 10:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Taiyo Yuden DVD-R x8 TYG02, is my prefered choice when backing up PS2 games, burning at X4 (Benq).

If using DVD+R on older PS2 the disc's need to be booktyped to DVD-ROM, and even though the latest PS2 are more compatible, if using DVD+R I would still booktype.

The Taiyo Yuden TYG02 are also excellent for movie backups as well.
chiefmac
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7. March 2006 @ 12:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Really,where can I find those DVDs? I usually buy from supermediastore.com. Also how do I booktype?
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7. March 2006 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
But which is better?? I hear some people say +R...and others say -R...someone with alot of knowledge and experience please be so kind as to explain why you suggest + or - media over the other in detail please.

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7. March 2006 @ 14:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The differences between the -R and +R lie in their methods of data addresses: -R uses land pre-pits molded into the disc while +R uses a high frequency signal modulated onto the disc groove. There are other subtle differences; but in the long run, both are dye-based discs that can use the same dye in their production. The DVD Forum approved the DVD-R as the "official" write-once disc; so early DVD players that are finicky about recorded discs are more likely to play DVD-R discs. The "official" rewritable DVD Forum disc was supposed to be only the DVD-RAM; but so many people wanted a disc without a cartridge that Pioneer came up with a rewritable disc based on the DVD-R but saddled with its video heritage. (The sequential writing scheme means that erasing a file recorded earlier in the disc does not make room for more files; new files can only be appended to the last one that was recorded.) Sony, HP, and Philips were unhappy with the data restrictions imposed by the Forum; so they came up with a combo data/video format in the DVD+RW disc. But they, too, got pressure to introduce a write-once version; and that led to the DVD+R. Many early DVD recorders and players refused to read +R/+RW discs simply because they "violated" the rules of the DVD Forum. Changing the bit setting on DVD+R discs to misidentify them as "DVD-ROM" discs allows them to be played on early Panasonic recorders and players as well as some others. Newer equipment, however, is much more tolerant and will not distinguish between -R or +R. Either one works as well as the other. If it weren't for the fact that some
DVD-R discs have CPRM encoding that creates problems in some drives, one could argue that -R is more compatible. These days, particularly with new equipment, it's a toss-up.

I don't know about the PS2 player that many forum members use; so it might be good to take their advice if that is one player you intend to use.
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7. March 2006 @ 14:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Booktyping (bitsetting) needs a burner that supports changing a DVD+R setting to DVD-ROM, either using tools that come with the burner, QSuite etc, or with DVD Decrypter/Nero....(or hacked firmware in one that does'nt) .

Most use DVD-R, because of the older PS2 V4 etc not being able to cope with DVD+R unless it was booktyped, which not all burners can do.

About Taiyo Yuden, there's plenty of choice at supermediastore, Taiyo Yudens are easy to find (on front page).

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But which is better?? I hear some people say +R...and others say -R...someone with alot of knowledge and experience please be so kind as to explain why you suggest + or - media over the other in detail please.
Read the post again, most folks used DVD-R because early V- PS2 could not cope with DVD+R unless it was booktyped and not all burners support that function.

Around 400+ back ups on DVD-R for me (PS2) previously used Ritek DVD-R, now predominantly Taiyo Yuden x8 (TYG02) DVD-R.

If you have a burner that booktypes for older PS2 then DVD+R on quality media performs the task just as good (have around 180 DVD+R booktyped PS2 back ups).

Above all else use quality media, which compliments your burner... the best media is what works for you and your setup/software.

Check the PS2 forums......
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chiefmac
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8. March 2006 @ 04:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks
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