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Video_ts too big for DVD-R...pls help!
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kkniffen
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14. March 2006 @ 12:46 |
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Recode isn't one of my options.
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14. March 2006 @ 13:11 |
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What do you mean by that/ You don't have a full Nero version, or is not Recode the application for your project? What are you trying to do? Work with an AVI, or backup a d DVD?
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14. March 2006 @ 13:15 |
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Then use RB/HC or DVD Shrink if free is a requirement. The way you were talking about Nero led us to assume you had the Nero suite of software.
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14. March 2006 @ 13:48 |
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I am using DVD Shrink with Neuro. But when I add my files from DVD Shrink into Neuro, they are still to big.
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14. March 2006 @ 15:31 |
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Try reading the manuals on how the software works. Nero has manuals available for its different apps on the Nero website. DVD Shrink guides are available on most of the major forums. Just open the Help in the Shrink app itself. The guide links are still good. NVE3 or NV4 are good for converting AVI files to DVD. After conversion Shrink is a decent transcoder for fitting files to the target media. The way Nero is used in conjunction with Shrink is as a burner. There the burning ROM is used. Nero is a suite of software for several different functions. It sounds as though you need to work on which apps do what and how different tasks are done.
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14. March 2006 @ 21:17 |
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Well, now that we've ascertained that VSO's software will walk the dog, wash the car, squeeze orange juice, cook breakfast, while at the same time doing the best encodes in the world we can lay the subject to rest. VSO has to be the best, because hursty said so and Rotary has had good experiences with the software. LOL No offense Rotary, you were just commenting on your positive experiences with the app. I do wonder why you're using so many AVI files though. Most good movies have been digitally mastered or remastered for DVD, including the older classics and some not so classic. I prefer having my movie library on DVD with the backups done by an encoder that gives faithful reproduction.
i woke to read this, then read on to see this...
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Good idea not getting personal; though it does get a bit personal when someone jumps in with statements implying I haven't a clue about what I'm talking about. Professionals prefer CCE for working with video files and ConvertXtoDVD is rarely mentioned. Granted, it can convert, but saying it's superior to CCE is still something else.
interesting... never did say that...
Nothing here to see, move along folks.
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14. March 2006 @ 21:36 |
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ok, here's the thing. Comments like the ones highlighted by Rotary, dont really help anyone. They just appear to be personal attacks at best, and n00b put downs at worst.
We are seeing far to many comments like this in the forums lately. Not just from Bro Bear. This is in no way directed at him alone.
People come to afterdawn for help
People come to afterdawn to help
those people are good
those people who have come here on a mission to look superior to all others at the expense of spreading knowledge.
those people are bad
Have an opinion, make it count, make it clear sure, but dont make it agressive / personal. and remember, it's just your opinion.
Now i'm not saying who's right and who's wrong in this thread. but lets keep it informative and useful for all. other thread readers shouldn't have to come here and try to filter out all the 'im better than you' BS
Peace - Out
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seeing as this thread is now closed i have to put my reply here.
BroBear did mis-quote my PM, thats lame. In the posts following it he also seems to be shining other ppl on. Thats also lame. I dont know whats going on with these forums anymore. An offensive post was reported ... that post still stands, and the mods join in with the BS??? What happened to Afterdawn?
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15. March 2006 @ 10:25 |
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No one said you did. Quote:
VSO has to be the best, because hursty said so and Rotary has had good experiences with the software. LOL No offense Rotary, you were just commenting on your positive experiences with the app.
In fact, the only reference to you was that you had quoted good experiences with the software. You hadn't gone on and made ridiculous statements about ConvertXtoDVD being a better encoder than CCE. ConvertXtoDVD is good for what it does, conversion of AVI files with transcoding abilities, but isn't in the league with true encoders such as CCE and Pro Coder.
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other thread readers shouldn't have to come here and try to filter out all the 'im better than you' BS
Nor the holier than thou BS either. You should have pondered your post before making it along with reading the forum rules. Members aren't supposed to be acting as mods. Suggestions are one thing, trying to give orders another, especially when not truly understanding the situation. I noticed you weren't a participant in this thread till you joined in with your own distraction.
My statement to hursty was abrupt, had he been a newbie, I wouldn't have been so. As an Addict his statements carry more weight with uninformed readers. Had it just been a conflict of personal opinions, I would have let it go with a simple "IMO I disagree". However, when something is so blatantly wrong as to assault everyone's intelligence, including my own, I become a bit outspoken. That's called protecting the integrity of info on the forum, which by the way is beneficial for newbs as well as other members not well informed on the topic in question.
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and remember, it's just your opinion.
Hopefully you'll remember that when you go to comment on others actions and further keep things stirred up and off track. The topic had progressed to encoders being used with conversion tools. Professionals agree that CCE is one of the top encoders and ConvertXtoDVD isn't even mentioned in the same circles. There you have a member, hursty, inserting his opinion with a bad piece of information. He has the right to state it, but it's not only ridiculous from my point of view, but in the eyes of anyone using the software or aware of it's capablilities. So, I have the right to call it a ridiculous statement. Anyone seeing statements as blatantly wrong should comment. If worried about Noobs, worry about the info they're being fed on their search for the grail.
I highly doubt what happened here caused hursty to go inactive. His demeanor may have taken him afoul of a mod who clipped his membership. Members don't have the option, that I'm aware of, of closing their own membership. I guess he could have asked to be made inactive. I hate to see members leave, but I don't miss sources of disinformation.
Rotary put up the quotes seemingly because he thought they were pointed toward him. Not so. His actions were in defense, not an attack on others. So, I don't see his actions as being offensive to anyone. There's been a disagreement here between hursty and myself that got a bit personal. I still say the statement about ConvertXtoDVD being better than CCE was grossly incorrect. Other than that, the membership would have been better served to leave it alone or report the thread to the mods as being offensive. Jumping in and trying to moderate without being a mod is against the rules in itself.
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Not just from Bro Bear. This is in no way directed at him alone.
Directing it at anyone is a personal attack by you on them. So, in the future, I hope you follow your own advice.
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Here's your PM in it's entirety since it pertains to this thread. I don't appreciate rude PMs. You really have the spirit of a mediator. LOL
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thread reported to mods.
I was not trying to be a mod, I did not caution or threaten anyone.
A Moderator is someone entrusted by the forums administrator to help regulate postings in the chat room.
BTW, Mods moderate the entire forum, not just the IRC chatroom where a few cronies get together for a chat session. It's hursty's decision not to be here, but I see now why you're here. He mention's it to you and you feel the need to run over and take up for your buddy. Good mediation tactics. LOL
That is not what I was trying to do. I was simply trying to calm a situation before moderators were required ... too last for that now I guess.
Oh and for your information, Hursty, a long time member of Afterdawn and a well respected member of the un-official Afterdawn IRC, (Where i do moderate and he still visits) did leave because he was sick of arguementative crap such as this thread. He requested his own account inactive.
I hope you feel better for your rant, however, it's benefit to the thread in general escapes me.
By all means report this message to the mods, but dont twist it, and dont bother to edit your thread reply before they see it, I have a copy.
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Don't worry, I have a copy of your PM in my messages, which I can post a screen capture of if necessary.
Now it appears you're the one into attacking and ranting. If a decent moderator, you should know to stay out of things not your business. Your sole reason for interfering in this thread was to support your buddy hursty. You may consider him a highly respected member of IRC AD, but I was seeing him as a source of disinformation.
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15. March 2006 @ 14:00 |
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Huuummm, as a Beta-tester for first the DivXtoDVD2 and again for the newly named ConvertXtoDVD ~ I believe it does walk the walk. It's ease of use and it's speed have made it a force to be reckoned with. A single Drag 'n drop and a single click on the Convert button makes it, hands down, the easiest proggy of its kind.
@Bear,
You mentioned that there weren't any comparisons between CCE and VSO's proggy ~ the fact that we've just finished tweaking ConvertXtoDVD might be the reason for that UNLESS you've been doing some independent testing between the two as you did with Shrink..
I'll agree that Rebuilder does a better job when using CCE SP, but it's quite a bit more complex and it takes more time, sometimes too much time for some pple to be satisified with, to produce it's end result.
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15. March 2006 @ 14:19 |
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Are you here as one of hursty's call for defense or an unofficial member of the IRC Afterdawn contingent? I've been using ConvertXtoDVD and have used the DivXtoDVD in the past. It has some improvements, I'm not going to copy VSO's advertisement info for them. The conversation had gone beyond the scope of just conversion software when hursty made the "ridiculous" statement he did.
Also, I realize you were having problems learning how to use DVD Rebuilder with CCE, but with the easy installer and all the help threads, I'd have thought you would have gotten it by now. With DVD Rebuilder, CCE is no problem at all to use and gives the same high quality achieved with simple encoding tasks as those achieved with CCE by the pros. And as noted, the professionals see CCE as a leader in the field. Granted, it may take more time than it's worth when working with inferior quality AVI files.
If you're wanting to get this thread back on track, then I'll agree that ConvertXtoDVD is an excellent app for converting AVI to DVD and then encoding it. I'll also note that it doesn't take a great encoder because most of the AVI source material is inferior to the average files digitally mastered to DVD compliant MPEG2. I'll also note that the so called encoder software in ConvertXtoDVD is in reality a transcoder app and not a true encoder. I'll go further to say that NV4 in the Nero suite is also a top conversion app compared to ConvertXtoDVD, as far as the quality I've achieved with them. Nero has no need to incorporate a transcoder as they already have one in the recording suite, Recode 2. Also, as far as transcoders go, Recode 2 is more useful because it will do transcodes of DVDs as well as the conversions from AVI sources. Or are you now going to say that the transcoding software of ConvertXtoDVD is superior to the Recode 2 transcoder? We can move that discussion over to the Nero section for some entertainment. It's more fun to have the VSO versus Nero debates in the right section.
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Are you here as one of hursty's call for defense?
I didn't come to anyone's defense, I came to voice my opinion and, as someone who has something positive to contribute about a program I had something to say something about.
Seems like you have something to say about everything ~ It must be tough being the most knowledgeable person on the planet (in your own mind)
Sounds to me like you're just trying to start something once again ~
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Seem to apply to everyone except you ~
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However, when something is so blatantly wrong as to assault everyone's intelligence, including my own, I become a bit outspoken. That's called protecting the integrity of info on the forum,
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It's nice to see that you two have gotten back together again. For a while I thought that all of that warm affection you both once felt for each other had somehow gotten lost in time;.)
I've also used the application in both beta and gold release and it does what one needs it to simply and quickly. I did have some issues that I reported to Claire regarding its inability to convert DivX 6X. But the truth is unless the AVI is a unique collectors item that can't be gotten in any other way (some 1930's Fliescher Superman cartoons are an example), I don't care for the resulting quality.
Pete, we all thought that the Shark had finally dined on you. LOL
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I didn't come to anyone's defense, I came to voice my opinion and, as someone who has something positive to contribute about a program I had something to say something about.
Seems like you have something to say about everything ~ It must be tough being the most knowledgeable person on the planet (in your own mind)
Sounds to me like you're just trying to start something once again ~
That's sort of like "the kettle calling the pot black". LOL I notice you made it personal real fast petey. And as far as being a resident know it all, you got the record for that a long time ago. When members started questioning your knowledge base, outside your helping newbies, you took off to another forum where you'd look better. Hmmm... Using DVD Decrypter was like using a big hammer to smash files unlike gently opening them with other apps. DVD Shrink is the best (that at the time the author of Shrink saw the program needed to be seriously overhauled). With the old Shrink a user could put 3 movies on a DVD5 with good quality. (There were compression errors with one big one,) Yeah Pete old boy, I know it all, don't I. LOL
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And I'm glad they saw fit to never make you one either. LOL I wasn't saying not to say anything, I was just saying what was being given was serious disinformation and was ridiculous. Or are you saying I don't have the right to disagree with something that is so patently wrong. I see you don't mind in the least unloading on me. LOL
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Pete, we all thought that the Shark had finally dined on you. LOL
I couldn't be so lucky. Pete is constantly lurking to attack those who have disagreed with him in the past; especially if they were ever right. ;) Vendetta is a big word with him. Beware Sophocles. LOL
I agreed with him on the ConvertXtoDVD being good for what it does and then he sees fit to attack me anyway. If that's not showing his intent for being here, I don't know. LOL I merely asked if he was here on behalf of his buddies. I guess the answer was in his response. ;) Pete's trying to belittle me doesn't seem to make him or his cronies look any better.
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now looks like a good time to jump in :)
Sup Mr_Taz_UK, Rotary, Pete, Soph & Brobear.
Ok lets all overdose on the chill pill!!!
Remember, guys we all have our opinions. I myself like VSO's program, it's simple and fast and the output is good for me. Let's not start a this program is better than this program and just offer solutions ... ok?
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15. March 2006 @ 16:47 |
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You're right. We're all allowed our opinions. I was willing to follow Sophocles earlier suggestion not to get personal. No one is disagreeing that ConvertXtoDVD is a good app for what it does. I keep a working version on my PC. That should say something about how I feel about the app. I also had its predecessor DivXtoDVD. VSO has some good software, no one's disputing that. Except for a minor feature that VSO doesn't incorporate, I'd be using their CopyToDVD instead of Nero.
Most of us agree VSO makes good software, and ConvertXtoDVD does a decent job of what it's supposed to. I think most of us agree dedicated encoders beat transcoders for quality (though possibly not noticable with a lower quality source). We can even agree that Nero does some good work and that a lot is in personal preference there.
Perhaps I was a bit over the top in my response to Hursty's comparing a true encoder to a transcoder included as part of conversion app. That was a disagreement between me and Hursty on CCE, who chose to leave. I supplied a link to an evaluation done of transcoders by professionals for professionals in relation to my assertion. ConvertXtoDVD is a handy conversion tool and isn't normally listed with transcoders and encoders. Also, there is a large number of members here at AD who will agree that CCE is a dedicated encoder and superior in function to a transcoder. Just visit any of the forums dealing with encoders such as CCE and Pro Coder; especially the Rebuilder forum.
If you note since Hursty took his leave and complained to his cronies, I've been accosted by Mr Taz and Pete. Mr Taz under the guise of being a mediator (not moderator), and Pete who just happened by to comment. Neither of whom had participated in the thread earlier, and neither of which actually disagreed with the content of what I said, just that I'd upset their buddy and Pete thinks I'm a know it all. Kettles... ;) I'm more than willing to see things die down. Since this thread is no longer contributing anything worthwhile to the forum, I think it might be a good idea to close it. That's my opinion and the closure would be at your discretion of course. ;)
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If you read back you'll see that I have nothing to chill about. I stated a view and then left there. I did offer a little advice but no conflicts.
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Rotary appears to be an innocent bystander as well. ;) He quoted me because it appeared I said he made a statement, which wasn't the intent I had with the content. He merely voiced his liking the software. He wasn't a party to the more onerous debate (or debacle) on transcoders and encoders.
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Let's see; Hursty, Brobear, Taz, and Pete. The kettle and pot foursome. LOL Appears the only one not an Addict involved in the altercation is poor Taz who hasn't made the count yet. ;) I'm surprised Flip hasn't told us we should know better. LOL
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I'm surprised Flip hasn't told us we should know better. LOL
dammit that's what I forgot to put in my sig. But ya, you guys should know better!!!! :)
And yes Brobear, I didn't see anything with Pete's post other than offering his opinion. You came down on him.
But c'mon guys, just chill. Seriously.
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I should na said it on the open forum. LOL
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I was only coming down with my velvety. light and gently, soft paws. I asked Pete if he had ulterior motives and he unloaded; even after I agreed with him on the software. LOL Just wait till I remind you of something you forget again. LOL Remind me not to be so agreeable in the future. LOL
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Whoa ... the hostility in this thread is so thick that you can cut it with a knife ... guys, we're loosing track of why we're all here ... you know, we are all on the same side ...right??
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Whoa ... the hostility in this thread is so thick that you can cut it with a knife ... guys, we're loosing track of why we're all here ... you know, we are all on the same side ...right??
Right? Let us say supposedly.
Hmm... why are you here but for the entertainment? ;) The moderator has already told us to cool it. Continuously commenting only tends to rake the coals.
No hello for the rest of the oldsters here? Only a hello for Pete and a hearty "hang in there". Makes me feel neglected and think that you want Pete to cut loose on me again. ;)
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