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sick_unit
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11. March 2006 @ 12:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im still using Nero 6.3.1.6 and havent changed because I havent had a problem with it. However I have been getting so many coasters lately. When i try and do a copy dvd disc id either have read problems with the status bar just stoping anytime then id have to stop and start again or id get burn failure.
However there isnt anything wrong with the disc's, there not sctrahced and in fact there only a few days old. And ive been using these disc for ages and without any problems. Ive tried reading it using DVD Decrypter and it worked perfectly not one read error.


Does anyone know what the problem is and how I could fix it?

BTW I dont want to upgrade to Nero 7 because I heard that it skips a lot when making audio CD's plus ive also heard it bloated with a lot of crap!


Thanks guys.












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11. March 2006 @ 14:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@sick_unit
To help sort this out post one of your failure logs from Nero. They can be found here - program files>ahead>nero>nerohistory.txt. Make sure you edit out your serial # - they begin w/ 1A or 1C.
As for upgrading - either 6 or 7 - each pc is different - everyone has different programs, diffferent spec etc. so no version can be bug free for everyone. What works well for one may not be the case for someone else. Nero does list a version history w/ their updates which will show you what bugs they fixed and the 'enhancements'.

Decrypter imo is a much better ripper than Nero - make sure you are not burning on the fly. Does it in real time so any little glitch and bang fails.



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11. March 2006 @ 15:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just got another coaster when burning a DVD. It was writing and it just stopped at 27%. All up I have had 7 coasters in the past two days. I think ill upgrade to a newer Nero 6 or ill find a different product all together.












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11. March 2006 @ 15:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As binkie7 has requested, if you post your last Nero log we can look for your problem, we need that to give us ALL the info we need to help you.



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It creating the image successfully so there isnt much point posted that part of the log but here is the burning part. As you can see at the end I aborted it because it wasnt writing anything for 5-10 mintues.


===== Disc-Copy over image - 2nd step : Burn the image ...

11:53:17 AM #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

11:53:17 AM #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 running

11:53:17 AM #3 IMAGEGEN -10 File ImageGen.cpp, Line 366
Image was written as DAO.
DAOI:
MediaCatalogNumber = ''
TocType = 0x40
Finalized = 1
First/Last Track = 1 / 1
1: ISRC = ''
Blocksize = 2048
TrackMode = 'TRM_DATA_MODE1'
TrackConfig = 0x00
First/Last Index = 0 / 1
Index0FilePos = 0, Index1FilePos = 307200, NextTrackFilePos = -949669888
CUES:
0: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 0 (0x00) Index=00 RecDep=0x00 Start=954437:08.46 ( -150)
1: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 1 (0x01) Index=00 RecDep=0x00 Start=954437:08.46 ( -150)
2: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 1 (0x01) Index=01 RecDep=0x00 Start=00:00.00 ( 0)
3: Ctrl=0x41 Trk=110 (0xAA) Index=01 RecDep=0x00 Start=362:57.21 ( 1633296)
MTYP: Mediumtype = DVD (old format) (0x1C)
Image file name: <C:\Documents and Settings\XXXXX\My Documents\TempImage.nrg>

11:53:17 AM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3198
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

11:55:43 AM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 244
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 1633295 (362:57.20, 3190MB)

11:55:43 AM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 249
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

11:55:43 AM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2107
Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: RITEKG - 05
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

11:55:43 AM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 410
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
Insert empty disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R9 Double Layer.)

11:55:43 AM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 - DVD-ROM)
2 indices, index0 (150) provided
original disc pos #0 + 1633296 (1633296) = #1633296/362:57.21
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1633296 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

11:55:43 AM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 982
Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x40; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3344990208, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
1633296 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

11:55:43 AM #11 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Burn process started at 4x (5,520 KB/s)

11:55:43 AM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2342
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

11:55:43 AM #13 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1619
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

11:55:43 AM #14 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19864
Set BUFE: supported -> ON

11:55:43 AM #15 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1760
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

11:55:43 AM #16 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8002
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 30 01 02 04 06 00 00 - 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 .0..............
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

11:55:45 AM #17 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:55:45.234 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:56:15 AM #18 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:56:15.859 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:56:16 AM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:56:16.265 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:56:16 AM #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:56:16.453 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:56:16 AM #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:56:16.484 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:28 AM #22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:28.765 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:29 AM #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:29.171 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:29 AM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:29.359 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:29 AM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:29.390 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:29 AM #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:29.859 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:30 AM #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:30.265 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:30 AM #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:30.453 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:30 AM #29 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:30.484 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:58:42 AM #30 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:58:42.750 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:58:43 AM #31 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:58:43.187 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:58:43 AM #32 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:58:43.375 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:58:43 AM #33 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:58:43.406 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:59:55 AM #34 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:59:55.687 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:59:56 AM #35 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:59:56.125 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:59:56 AM #36 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:59:56.343 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

12:03:59 PM #37 Phase 40 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1531
Aborted by user

12:04:00 PM #38 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1970
EndDAO: Last written address was 597263

12:04:02 PM #39 Phase 39 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Burn process aborted












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11. March 2006 @ 15:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quote:
I have been getting so many coasters
What's the brand name/format/and speed rate of your blank media? The MID code would be handy.You can use neroinfotool to find that code.
Quote:
When i try and do a copy dvd disc id either have read problems with the status bar just stoping anytime then id have to stop and start again or id get burn failure.
Sounds like you are copying one of your backups on the fly for another copy,correct me if I am wrong.

Are you trying to copy a backup disc,or original dvd?

If I am interpreting this question right,you are able to re-rip a backup copy ok using dvd decrypter. But you are coastering out discs when you are using nero's copy disc program.

On the fly is riskier. Media quality/reader quality/and burner quality all come into play. All those little errors on your first backup copy can also come into play. Dvd decrypter is a more aggressive ripper. I can get through those little errors better.Now when you copy on the fly,those little errors can coaster out the blank.

All those little read errors can be attributed to:

Media quality
Too fast of burn speed
Too slow of burn speed
burner/dvd-rom quality
Burning too close to the outer edge
Multi-tasking
Heavily fragged hd
Paper/sticker labels


Please explain in more detail of your backup process. You said some were ok,and not now.

Edit: You sqeezed that burnlog in before I posted. Some members have been reporting problems with the Ritek-G05 media.

Did you change anything about your media like: Different spindle or package? You may have run into a bad batch?






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The full log is required so we can see the version of your pioneer DVD109 firmware you are using, it also contains other relevant information.
If you dont feel like posting it then I can offer NO further assistance.



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Ive got a Pioneer 109, firmware 1.58 using Ritek G05's.
Heres the full log.......

12.3.2006
===== Disc-Copy over image - 1st step : Copy to image ...

11:44:26 AM #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

11:44:26 AM #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer Image Recorder running

11:44:26 AM #3 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 263
DVD Track-Information from source disc
S01 T01 Con 0x14 Start 0 Len 1633296 (gap 0) Blank 0 Res 0 Mode TRM_DATA_MODE1 (0)

11:44:26 AM #4 Text 0 File DVDCopy.cpp, Line 355
Max -1 tracks of 1 allowed to copy
1: 0 - 1633296 = 1633296, TRM_DATA_MODE1, block size 2048, read opt 0 (no read options)

11:44:26 AM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3198
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

11:44:26 AM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 244
Last possible write address on media: 2147483646 (477218:35.21, 4194303MB)
Last address to be written: 1633295 (362:57.20, 3190MB)

11:44:26 AM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 249
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

11:44:26 AM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2107
Recorder: Image Recorder;
CD type reading failed
ATIP Data: ?

11:44:26 AM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 410
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

11:44:26 AM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 - Data (mode 1))
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1633296 (1633296) = #1633296/362:57.21
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1633296 blocks [ Image Recorder ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

11:44:26 AM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 982
Prepare recorder [ Image Recorder ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x40; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 3345297408, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
1633296 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

11:44:26 AM #12 Phase 120 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Creating the image for burning

11:44:26 AM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2342
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

11:53:06 AM #14 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
< Image Recorder > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 1633296 (18EC10h), lenght 0 blocks

11:53:06 AM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion

11:53:07 AM #16 Phase 121 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Creating Image completed successfully



===== Disc-Copy over image - 2nd step : Burn the image ...

11:53:17 AM #1 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

11:53:17 AM #2 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 running

11:53:17 AM #3 IMAGEGEN -10 File ImageGen.cpp, Line 366
Image was written as DAO.
DAOI:
MediaCatalogNumber = ''
TocType = 0x40
Finalized = 1
First/Last Track = 1 / 1
1: ISRC = ''
Blocksize = 2048
TrackMode = 'TRM_DATA_MODE1'
TrackConfig = 0x00
First/Last Index = 0 / 1
Index0FilePos = 0, Index1FilePos = 307200, NextTrackFilePos = -949669888
CUES:
0: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 0 (0x00) Index=00 RecDep=0x00 Start=954437:08.46 ( -150)
1: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 1 (0x01) Index=00 RecDep=0x00 Start=954437:08.46 ( -150)
2: Ctrl=0x41 Trk= 1 (0x01) Index=01 RecDep=0x00 Start=00:00.00 ( 0)
3: Ctrl=0x41 Trk=110 (0xAA) Index=01 RecDep=0x00 Start=362:57.21 ( 1633296)
MTYP: Mediumtype = DVD (old format) (0x1C)
Image file name: <C:\Documents and Settings\XXXXX\My Documents\TempImage.nrg>

11:53:17 AM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3198
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

11:55:43 AM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 244
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 1633295 (362:57.20, 3190MB)

11:55:43 AM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 249
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

11:55:43 AM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2107
Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: RITEKG - 05
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

11:55:43 AM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 410
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
Insert empty disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R9 Double Layer.)

11:55:43 AM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (1 - DVD-ROM)
2 indices, index0 (150) provided
original disc pos #0 + 1633296 (1633296) = #1633296/362:57.21
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1633296 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

11:55:43 AM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 982
Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x40; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3344990208, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
1633296 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

11:55:43 AM #11 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Burn process started at 4x (5,520 KB/s)

11:55:43 AM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2342
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

11:55:43 AM #13 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1619
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

11:55:43 AM #14 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19864
Set BUFE: supported -> ON

11:55:43 AM #15 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1760
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

11:55:43 AM #16 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8002
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 30 01 02 04 06 00 00 - 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 .0..............
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

11:55:45 AM #17 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:55:45.234 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:56:15 AM #18 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:56:15.859 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:56:16 AM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:56:16.265 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:56:16 AM #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:56:16.453 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:56:16 AM #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:56:16.484 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:28 AM #22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:28.765 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:29 AM #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:29.171 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:29 AM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:29.359 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:29 AM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:29.390 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:29 AM #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:29.859 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:30 AM #27 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:30.265 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:30 AM #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:30.453 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:57:30 AM #29 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:57:30.484 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:58:42 AM #30 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:58:42.750 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:58:43 AM #31 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:58:43.187 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:58:43 AM #32 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:58:43.375 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:58:43 AM #33 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:58:43.406 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:59:55 AM #34 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:59:55.687 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:59:56 AM #35 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:59:56.125 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

11:59:56 AM #36 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
11:59:56.343 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

12:03:59 PM #37 Phase 40 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1531
Aborted by user

12:04:00 PM #38 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1970
EndDAO: Last written address was 597263

12:04:02 PM #39 Phase 39 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Burn process aborted












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Quote:
Insert empty disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R9 Double Layer.)
your burner does not recognise the Ritek media you are using. This doesnt appear to be the WHOLE log as requested but I woud suggest, without seeing the FULL log to go here and update Pioneer DVR 109 firmware
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2017

latest 8.57

Also check to see if your DMA is on

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/260038



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@ gwendolin
This is the entire log from the Program Files>Ahead>Nero>NeroHistory.txt as binkie7 said earlier.

Firmware 8.57 is buffalo firware and I dont want that.

DMA is already set on.












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OK your firmware is current, you are using good media and your DMA is enabled. There is not much more that I can help you with.



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Hi Gwen, binkie, :)
Let me see if i can help here now that we have a full log.
Quote:
CD type reading failed
That is related to these:
Quote:
Insert empty disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R9 Double Layer.)

and
Quote:
Disc Manufacturer: RITEKG - 05
it doesnt like the media. Now maybe a firmware update can help. This log is part of another nero app log. If you could post the history log found here for vers 6, it will list more things, like memory useage, and firmware version, drivers, etc. I didnt see it in this log.
Nero 6 history log location: Program Files>Ahead>Nero>NeroHistory.txt
These things record all burns, and we only need the last one. The burns are seperated by something like this
Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
====== *** NeroAPI, History File *** ======


Windows XP 5.1
IA32-xxxx-xxxx-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But from what i can see from this log, media is giving you an issue.
The firmware for that pioneer could be a number of them, and we would need to see the current version to get the right one, hence the history log request.
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2017
Try to find the history log, and post it. Not all of it, just the last burn in that log.
***Edit***
Dang Gwen, you are fast. By the time i had finished looking, you had a couple replies back.. :)
Here is an example of a history log, not my own, but copied from another post. This is what a whole log should look like, and is the best kind to work with. It gives us much more info to work with.
THIS IS AN EXAMPLE ONLY!! DONT TRY TO FIX THIS ONE...:) unless you find the post i got it from :)


****************************************************************
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 17/07/2002 09:20:56
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 16:35:32
Nero Version: 6.6.0.13
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 13c
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <PHILIPS DVDR16LS> Version: P1.9 - HA 0 TA 1 - 6.6.0.13
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <Generic DVD-ROM >Version: 1.0 - HA 3 TA 0 - 6.6.0.13
Adapter driver: <d347prt> HA 3

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : IC35L180AVV207-1 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PHILIPS DVDR16LS atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PHILIPS DVDR16LS F: CDRom0
Generic DVD-ROM I: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1023MB (1048048kB)
Free physical memory: 548MB (561612kB)
Memory in use : 46 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

13.2.2006
ISO compilation
02:24:31 #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6194
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

02:24:31 #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

02:24:31 #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer PHILIPS DVDR16LS running

02:24:31 #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

02:24:31 #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3167
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

02:24:31 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 260
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 2291839 (509:17.64, 4476MB)

02:24:31 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 272
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

02:24:31 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2339
Recorder: PHILIPS DVDR16LS, Media type: DVD+R

02:24:31 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 438
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

02:24:31 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2291840 (2291840) = #2291840/509:17.65
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2291840 blocks [PHILIPS DVDR16LS]
--------------------------------------------------------------

02:24:31 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
Prepare recorder [PHILIPS DVDR16LS] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4693688320, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2291840 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

02:24:31 #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

02:24:31 #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4051
Cache writing successful.

02:24:31 #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

02:24:31 #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

02:24:31 #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2609
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

02:24:31 #17 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1182
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x03D85200
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x24
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00

02:24:31 #18 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 652
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

02:35:23 #19 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1436
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x07B70000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
Sense Code: 0x0C
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x18 0xDA 0xC0 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x71 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00

02:35:23 #20 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
Write error

02:35:23 #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

02:35:23 #22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader

02:36:09 #23 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 17/07/2002 08:53:02
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.32a, size=20640 bytes, created 25/04/2005 09:03:00 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=?.?.?.?, size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 05:59:42 (Adapter driver for rec)
File 'Drivers\d347prt.sys': Ver=3.47.0.0 built by: WinDDK, size=5248 bytes, created 22/08/2004 15:31:48 (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
**************************************************************


See thats a complete log.. FYI..

Sure, Gwen, ill keep an eye on this one for a while.






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@ MaxBurn, the fog slowly starts to disapate, thanks for your help, you may continue with this one, Cheers.



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Ok I didnt release there was information on top of the log i posted. I thought the log started at what I posted eailer. Here is the top of the log that I forgot to post....

====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
XXXXX

1AXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 16/12/2003 7:18:06 PM
Nero version: 6.3.1.6 (Nero Express)
Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109> Version: 1.58 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.6
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2000kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 11
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: DVD+R9 DL recorder
CD-ROM: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 >Version: 1.58 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.1.6
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : IC35L040AVVN07-0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 D: CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 40894464 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 255MB (261620kB)
Free physical memory: 125MB (128288kB)
Memory in use : 50 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)












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That looks like the latest fw update for the pioneer 109:
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2017

Quote:
there not sctrahced and in fact there only a few days old
You changed spindles or packages?

You may have missed my first post,just before your first burn log post. I'm still confused at what you are trying to backup and how. You said DVD Decrypter has no issues with ripping it.




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@sick_unit
Now thats better. See there is important info in these logs, and we dont have much to go by when we get a partial log. No problems. Now let me see what the lastest log part shows.
Quote:
Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109> Version: 1.58
See, now we know what your firmware is on your system, and it is current.
Wasnt that easy..
Next,
Quote:
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 11
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: DVD+R9 DL recorder
That one means the version of nero you have does not see your burner, and is assigning generic properties to it. Not good.
To fix this, you have to update. Now the last non-buggy nero 6x was 6.6.0.18 and it should be here:
http://httpdl2.usw.nero.com/Nero-6.6.0.18.exe
http://httpdl1.usw.nero.com/Nero-6.6.0.18.exe
Its still version 6, and it might be enough of an update to detect your drive.
Quote:
Physical memory : 255MB (261620kB)
Free physical memory: 125MB (128288kB)
Memory in use : 50 %
That is really excellent memory management, but you need 512mb minimum to do a DVD rip. Now if anybody can do it with half of that, it looks like you will be the one. But an upgrade to 512 is the minimum suggested, and you really see a difference when you go to 1GB. Just an idea in case updating nero and media still fails for you.
You also didnt put in the very last part of the log this time. Is this hide and seek? LOL Anyways, put the last part in that lists the drivers. It takes a fragmented mind like mine to take a log part of the post at a time, like this, but im ready :)

***edit***
Hi saugmon :)

@sick_unit,
Good Media to try should be Verbatims, or Taiyo Yuden found in Sony, Maxell, Fuji, if Made in Japan is on the package. I use only Verbs or Tys for my copies, and only suggest those when ppl are having burn problems, and firmware is up2date, but nero says media is a problem.




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lol MaxBurn.
Yeah I know that 256mb isnt enough but its a pc2100 ram and there fairly old and are more expensive than DDR2. Im upgrading my PC in the next few months so theres no point upgrading ram before that time.

And the final part of this log..........

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 3/08/2004 10:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)












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@sick_unit
Always good to have a newer system. Yeah, old memory gets more expensive than new stuff sometimes. :)
Try the Nero update and see if it helps. It was fairly stable. I just updated my Nero 7 today and its working fine. I held off for a couple of updates as many ppl were having major bugs with it. This one seems to be fine for me so far.
Your last part of the log didnt show any major conficts that sometimes hide there.
Try different media, maybe even a RW as you wouldnt be getting coasters, and it could be used as a test. Its always good to have a few of those DVD+RWs lying around. Once it burns those fine, you should be able to burn a Verb or Ty, and anything else depends on how your systems likes the media.



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@ MaxBurn
How will I know if Nero 6.6.0.18 sees my burner? That is after ive installed it etc.












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Try a burn with the update, and post the burn log if it fails. That will show us if .18 still doesnt see your drive. It probably will do fine, but i do remember seeing one .18 log that didnt see a newer burner.




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Ill download 6.6.0.18 hopefully today and get back with a log ASAP.












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I just downlaoded 6.6.0.18 and copied a DVD and it worked perfect without any coasters. I also checked the history and looks like Nero recognises my drive....

Nero Version: 6.6.0.18
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18e
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109> Version: 1.58 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2000kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 >Version: 1.58 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1


I want to thank everyone who helped me and in particular MaxBurn!












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Glad it is working for you now! :)
I had the easy part. Gwen, Saugmon, and Binkie7 got you started in the right direction.
The unofficial Nero team of MaxBurn, Saugmon, Gwendolin, and Binkie7 were here for you sick_unit. Unofficially that is .. :)

It was great to work with my buddies on this.



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Dang come home & missed all the good stuff :)

@sick_unit
Just MY experience but Ritek is in my 'do not use' book. Others here have good experience w/ them and I did a 1st 2 with the different(GO5, GO3 etc)id's on 2 different drives - pioneer & liteon - then the errors started occasionally and now over a 1 year they are are not doing so well. So imo follow Maxburn's advice on the media too - it will help stop the problem b/4 it becomes one!




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Aw go on Max, you did all the work, you eventually got the FULL log, marvelous work that.
@sick_unit, Now you may realize that when you are given or asked for information no matter how irrelevent it may sound to you, it's asked for, for a good reason.

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