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experiened pro's needed. Best media/software to backup movies????
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mikej3131
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16. March 2006 @ 08:42 |
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Hey thanks guys,
How about this question, i am making back ups of all my dvd movies and i want the best quality, longest lasting way to do it. What program for making back ups of dvd's is the best these requirements i have( for example clonedvd, dvdshrink, Nero, dvddecrypter etc.) and what program shopuld i not use and why. Also what type of disc(verbatim, sony, memorex etc.) and what brand of disc should i not use and why. My main concern is that i want these backed up movies to last long and be able to play perfectly fine in my player and be durable. And anything else i should know aboutmaking quality backups i should know about?
Here is my current situation:
I rip the movie with clonedvd into an iso that is dvd5 size(about 4.6 gigs) then i burn that iso to a memorex dvd-r that is 4.7 gigs with either nero express or clonedvd.
i would appreciate Any suggestions.
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16. March 2006 @ 11:35 |
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then i burn that iso to a memorex dvd-r
Let me start off by saying that this is your first mistake, these discs are possibly the WORST you can buy, they are of poor quality and are too inconsistent in burns and have a high failure rate, my recommendation is Verbatim, Taiyo Yuden or Sony(made in Japan)
I would recommend AnyDVD to remove any copy protection and to back up you could go with Clone DVD2 both progs by slysoft but you are limited as to what you can do with Clone DVD2 so I would recommend Nero7 and then use NeroRecode to back up, having AnyDVD running in the background.
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16. March 2006 @ 11:42 |
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mulltipost closed (other thread), this thread teleported to relevant forum, and yup, avoid Memorex discs like the plague..
edit- no more multiposting pls, i've noticed you've been doing it on other threads you've started..
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mikej3131
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16. March 2006 @ 11:50 |
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sorry creaky wont happen again.
What are the limitations of clonedvd2? and isnt there a clonedvd3?
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16. March 2006 @ 11:56 |
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16. March 2006 @ 11:59 |
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As far as I am aware Clone DVD2 is the latest.
As you can see by screenshot, Clone DVD is limited to what is shown and that 3 tasks, so I woud say it's limited to what it can do
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mikej3131
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16. March 2006 @ 12:01 |
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can you choose the write speed in clonedvd2?
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16. March 2006 @ 12:06 |
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Yes you can, have you actually used it before.
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mikej3131
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16. March 2006 @ 12:12 |
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yes i have but now seeing the screen shot of that, i have clonedvd3. the fake one :( . And that version doesnt let you choose the write speed.
For clonedvd2. Can you make iso images onto your hard drive. Then burn those iso images back onto dvd? or can you just pop in the original move and then click copy and then click in the blank disc and have it copied?
Also does it let you choose the size of the resulting iso, does it let you shrink the file and take out subtitles or features in the movie?
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16. March 2006 @ 12:19 |
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16. March 2006 @ 14:19 |
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I still use DVDShrink on it's own (burn auto with Nero)- consistent results.
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16. March 2006 @ 15:23 |
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Best media:
(1) genuine Taiyo Yuden
(2) Verbatim "Advanced Azo or Datalife Plus"
(3) Hitachi Maxell (made in japan)
Best software to encode and or transcode:
(1) DVD-RB Pro + CCE SP
(2) Nero Recode 2 "AA + HQSR"
(3) DVD Shrink "DA + AEC"
Best rippers:
(1) DVDFAB Decrypter (it's FREE and flawless)
(2) DVD Decrypter + PgcEdit + PSL plugins + FixVTS (Free and flawless)
(3) AnyDVD (retail with 21 days trial)
Other craps/junks processing tools:
(1) VobBlanker (Free and powerful, can blank anything)
(2) FixVTS (Free and flawless)
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16. March 2006 @ 15:55 |
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Best DVD ripper: DVD Fab Decrypter.
Used to use DVD Decrypter but switched to Fab since DVD Decrypter is no longer supported or revised for the latest copyright encryption. Haven't found a movie that Fab couldn't handle.
Best encoder/transcoder: Nero Recode 2
This is a two horse race between Nero Recode and DVD Shrink. I have used them both and they are both very good programs. There is very little difference, but Recode is faster. I like Nero Recode 2, but you can't beat the price of DVD Shrink (free). Here is a link to a comparison:
http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45882
Best DVD Media
I always use DVD+R Media Booktyped to DVD-ROM for highest compatiblity with Stand alone DVD players. My top 3 are:
1-Verbatim
2-Taiyo Yuden
3-Maxell High Grade - made in Japan
Have had terrible luck with Ritec Media.
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mikej3131
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16. March 2006 @ 16:01 |
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what is
"Advanced Azo or Datalife Plus"
do they sell these verbatims at best buy?
and none of you like clonedvd? why?
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mikej3131
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16. March 2006 @ 17:20 |
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Another question. this ones for alkohol. You said AnyDVD wasthird on your list for dvd rippers. Isnt CloneDVD better for ripping? AnyDVD is just for copy protections right?
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Buik
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16. March 2006 @ 17:22 |
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@ mikej3131
I don't think that anyone dis-likes CloneDVD2. It is just a burning program that has its limitations. Such as the file(s) must not be encrypted, be 4.38~GB in size and as has been pointed out, limited options.
Other than that, I like it for burning my back-ups. Just use decrypt program, process the folder into the desired file using DVD recoding program, select & burn. Maybe only a few less steps than using Nero but I am very comfortable with it.
TC
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Buik
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16. March 2006 @ 17:35 |
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It just clicked, CloneDVD2 is not a ripper. Just a burning program for un-encrypted data. What, exactly, is the program you are using to rip the disc?
TC
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mikej3131
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16. March 2006 @ 18:42 |
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I don't think that anyone dis-likes CloneDVD2. It is just a burning program that has its limitations. Such as the file(s) must not be encrypted, be 4.38~GB in size and as has been pointed out, limited options.
So clonedvd can only be used for popping in the original dvd then clicking burn and once that is done, pop in the writable dvd and it writes to it. it cannot create iso images on your hard drive?
and if the files are encrypted, cant you use anydvd to run in the background to decrypt while clonedvd is runing and clonedvd wwill then work with encrypted movies?
Also does the original movie have to be 4.38 or the burned copy have to be 4.38? i was alil confused on what you meant?
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Just use decrypt program, process the folder into the desired file using DVD recoding program, select & burn. Maybe only a few less steps than using Nero but I am very comfortable with it.
What did you mean by this? im not understanding? can you explain in alil less technical more detailed terms please? sorry im an amature lol
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16. March 2006 @ 23:40 |
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@mikej3131
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what is
"Advanced Azo or Datalife Plus"
do they sell these verbatims at best buy?
and none of you like CloneDVD? why?
Yes indeed. Best Buy, Circuit City, Wal-Mart, Target, Office Depot, Sam's Club does have/sell Verbatim "Advacned Azo or Datalife Plus". Advanced Azo or DataLife Plus is MCC or Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation's state-of-the-art dye technology. It is possibly one of the best and is on par with the famous Taiyo Yuden.
In addendum to CloneDVD, I never said I like it or dislike it. It's simply that I don't have the need/desire to only. For encoding movies, I used nothing else but DVD-RB Pro + CCE SP, and for transcoding movies, I used Nero Recode 2 "AA + HQSR".
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Another question. this ones for alkohol. You said AnyDVD was third on your list for dvd rippers. Isnt CloneDVD better for ripping? AnyDVD is just for copy protections right?
*NOTE: no offense to AnyDVD users and I apologize if you think this sounds a little inappropriate, but I'm not putting down AnyDVD or anything. Of course, I'll definitely get/purchase/support AnyDVD when the time arise, but not now.
It is just my opinion only. I know a lot of members like and prefer AnyDVD, but it's just that I don't see any good reason for me to get it that's all. You/anybody can rate it as #1 in your opinion for the best rippers out there and I'm NOT going to argue with that.
I don't use AnyDVD and or plan to, unless DVDFAB Decrypter, DVD Decrypter, PgcEdit, PSL plugins, FixVTS and VobBlanker all gone and or can not rip future movies/dvds anymore.
What I'm saying is really simple and basic. Why would/should I get AnyDVD (retail) when DVDFAB Decrypter, which is totally FREE and it has worked and still rip any movies/dvds for me? Furthermore, I can simply use DVD Decrypter, PgcEdit + PSL plugins + FixVTS or VobBlanker to rip any movies/dvds flawlessly.
Best of lucks to all and cheers.
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oneacer
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17. March 2006 @ 00:45 |
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I rip with Shrink with Decrypter on auto burn . On some newer ones, I'll rip with DVDFab Decrypter first, then Shrink with Decrypter on auto burn. My media is Ty, Verbatim and Ritek. I am also one at this time that doesn't have the need for AnyDVD yet.
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17. March 2006 @ 01:56 |
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it cannot create iso images on your hard drive?
Clone can create iso images on your HDD if you want it to, you just rip and save in that format. Or you can rip and Clone will encode and you can burn it on the fly.
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Also does the original movie have to be 4.38 or the burned copy have to be 4.38
Clone works exactly like Shrink, it compresses your DVD9 to fit on a DVD5.
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mikej3131
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17. March 2006 @ 07:34 |
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hmmm good info all thanks. Just one question though. as some of you said clonedvd has limited options but i can live with that considering i already bought these products and im not a pro either. But i cant deal with bad burns or non-quality burns that wont play or get messed up in 6 months, does anybody know if clonedvd will give me good quality burns that wont screw up in 6 months?
Also i think im gonna go with verbatim, now which verbatiom is better (advanced azo or datalife plus)?
Someone in another forum said this about Verbatims
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Pearl Whites - Some of the Pearl Whites have been known to be Ritek discs, which are...below par these days, IMO.
As for the Made in India - there have been numerous reports on here that I've read about bad or mediocre burns with them...
So just to be safe, I'd be cautious about using either one.
And yeah, I believe it should say "Pearl White" somewhere on the packaging, although I never saw a Pearl White to find that out. Made in India ones will indeed say "Made in India" on the spindle packaging.
Made in Taiwan Verbatims (MCC003 for 8x) are working well enough for me to be happy with them
Does anybody know if theres truth to what he said?
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