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What's with 'Charlie and the choc factory' ??
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25. March 2006 @ 14:45 |
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I have bought Charlie and Choc factory and have tried and tried to burn a copy. Not even decryptor will encode it nor shrink, amazingly NOT even adding the extra step of VOBLANKER. It will get half way through the encoding stage then has a message saying that it is encrypted and cannot continue. I was able to fix the problem of burning madagascar with the added step VOBLANKER but no suchluck with Charlie and Choc. Has anyone had the same problems.
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david66
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25. March 2006 @ 15:07 |
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decrypte the disc with either dvd Fab or dvd 43 both are free programs
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25. March 2006 @ 16:54 |
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Then there is always ye olde AnyDVD. Little money but worth it you betcha.
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25. March 2006 @ 17:33 |
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I was able to burn Charlie and the Choc factory with no problems with DVDFab Platinum. Excellent program. No problems with encryption, I can multi-task without causing problems with the copy and don't have to shut off a bunch of services etc. to use it like I had to back in the day when I was using DVDXCopy. Well worth the cost of registering it, IMHO.
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polo1967
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25. March 2006 @ 20:48 |
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aaaahhhhh i hate reading post's about people not being able to backed up movies and they havent even tried AnyDVD and clone dvd .hello!!! this is all you need,ahh never mind no one ever listen's.
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brobear
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25. March 2006 @ 20:51 |
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Well, multitasking is more about system capability and resources than an individual software app; unless the software is capable of sucking up all the system resources.
DVDFab Decrypter is a free ripper from DVDIdle, the company that sells DVDFab Platinum. So, if all that's needed is a ripper, that is a decent freeware choice. I prefer the AnyDVD myself, it is well worth the investment (which is small).
I'm not sure about the encryption on "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory", but the most difficult is the recent sony Arccoss. With that, even after getting a successful rip, the files were still not DVD compliant according to the backup software. For that I use FixVTS which is more simple in operation than the VobBlanker. One need only uncheck all the boxes in FixVTS and drag a VOB from the Video_TS folder and select full disc to create a new Video_TS folder (hopefully compliant) and a backup of the folder. It's always worked for me. I use AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter to rip my files to the HD. Slysoft recommends turning off CSS Cracking and Check for Structure Protection in DVD Decrypter and turn on SPTI.
You can get a 3 week full function trial of AnyDVD at http://www.slysoft.com/ . As long as the little red fox is on the taskbar, you know it's working in the background.
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brobear
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25. March 2006 @ 20:56 |
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Polo
AnyDVD is handy, but not a necessity. It works great with apps other than CloneDVD 2, though the CloneDVD 2 is an easy app for beginners and does a decent job. I use the AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter to get my cleaned source and then use a true encoder setup for best quality. I use Rebuilder with Cinema Craft Encoder (RB/CCE). I own a copy of CloneDVD 2, but I rarely use it. That comes down to a matter of user preference and a lot of people have different ones.
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26. March 2006 @ 02:42 |
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brobear, I appreciate the detailed info you always provide in your posts. I've learned so much lurking in these forums.
My experience with DVDXCopy was that if I did any multi-tasking while ripping, I would get a dvd with stutters, pixelation and all sorts of problems. Plus there were all the things you couldn't have on your hd and the things you'd have to shut off in order to get a good dvd. Now, using the same computer, I can just pop in my dvd, do my back up and watch tv, surf the net, use any program I want, and still get a good dvd.
What I don't get is why the movie companies keep wasting money on encryption when anything they put out is reverse engineered within days of release. You'd think they would get a clue and spend their money more wisely, like maybe provide you with 2 copies of the dvd in the first place, one to play and one master in case of damage to the play copy. They don't seem to understand that the average user is not out here pirating movies, just trying to protect their investment.
Sorry for the rant, I really just wanted to say how much I appreciate these forums and people that are willing to so patiently share their knowledge.
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brobear
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26. March 2006 @ 07:35 |
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LOL We all need a good rant occasionally. DVDXCopy was a problem for a lot of people and was very prone to interference from other apps. I think I'm one of the few who didn't have a lot of problems. I learned early on it didn't play well with batch software in particular and a couple of other recording codecs. While transcoding, it did take up a few of the system resources and could be affected by multitasking on some systems. Even with XCopy or an app such as Rebuilder running Cinema Craft Encoder, I can still multi-task (which I don't recommend by the way). A person can tell how much usable RAM they have in Taskmanager and the CPU usage. One can guage from that what their multitasking abilities are. Most people that do a lot of backups opt not to multitask while doing their backups, especially during the transcoding part of the process.
As for the copyright protections from the movie industry, I'm afraid they're just getting warmed up. We're supposed to be getting a new breed with the arrival of High Definition DVDs. If the movie industry has their way, there's supposed to be encryption support in the new Microsoft OS, Vista. Hopefully that one falls through.
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polo1967
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28. March 2006 @ 06:23 |
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hey brobear can you giv4e me some more intell on that true incoder setup that you you to get a better quality.are you saying that i can get a better quality movie by using your way?? im pretty new at this so can you please tell me your process. thanks
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brobear
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29. March 2006 @ 00:36 |
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polo1967
http://www.dvd-rb.com/
You can get most everything you need to set up at that link. There's a freeware version as well as the Pro (which I have). You can use the free HC encoder which is almost as good as CCE (I have CCE). HC is just a bit slower. So, you can actually do a full test with freeware. You can get a 3 week full function trial of AnyDVD at http://www.slysoft.com/ . The RB installation app set's it all up for you. There's a Rebuilder section here at AD for your Rebuilder questions. I rip my source files with AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter and burn with Nero Express. When I run into file compliance issues with some of the new releases, I use FixVTS to process the source files. VSO has some good burner software and the free DVD Decrypter and ImgBurn do a good job of burning as well.
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polo1967
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29. March 2006 @ 02:57 |
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brobear, right now i'm using AnyDVD and clonedvd2. if there is a way to get better quality using a DVD-5 let me know.
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brobear
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29. March 2006 @ 03:16 |
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polo1967
Read my last post. You already have the AnyDVD, so all you need is the freeware to try it out. You be the judge. The trade off is that using an encoder is slower than a transcoder. You pay for the quality in time. I normally do a 2 pass encode with CCE in a bit less than 2 hours. Systems vary and if you note the specs in my sig, my system isn't too slow.
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polo1967
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29. March 2006 @ 07:46 |
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ok cool im happy with my burning time. thanks for your help
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brobear
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29. March 2006 @ 08:35 |
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Well, if you're not willing to spend a few more minutes for the best, then there are other transcoders besides CloneDVD 2. One I like is DVDCopy 4 from InterVideo. http://www.intervideo.com They have a full function trial. You may want to give it a try. I have the CloneDVD 2, but usually end up using the DVDCopy 4. May be just a personal preference for the interface, but the output is very good and it is fast. I use it when the kids are in a hurry.
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29. March 2006 @ 22:57 |
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I have dvdfab bu have never used it, I have always used dvd decryptor but will start sing fab instead I wll let you know how I go. Another related question have the new dvd on the market have a new anti ripping encrypted in them (they are getting clever!!!)I have come across a few lately and next week the fog is coming out and that suppose to be even harder. I will get the hang of using dvdfab instead or start using voblanker more frequently. Thanks
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brobear
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30. March 2006 @ 03:42 |
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If "The Fog" has the same copyright protection in your region as in region 1, then you may be in for some fun. The newer Arccoss protection on some new releases (including "The Fog") cause the files to read as being noncompliant when trying to be opened by recording software. Once the files were ripped, I had to use FixVTS to process the files. FixVTS does the same as VobBlanker for processing the files for compliance. I just find the FixVTS interface more simple for the task. AnyDVD now includes a ripper incorporating FixVTS which works well with the new releases that require it. I've not paid attention to how DVDFab Decrypter is holding up against those releases. DVDIdle has had it updated and it's working good for most releases. Me, I think I'll stick with AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter and continue on as I have in the past. Between those two and the help of FixVTS, I've yet to be unable to do a backup.
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