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Verbatim dvd's made in taiwan ok??????
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JCLUB
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29. March 2006 @ 22:11 |
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I'm kind of confused. It seems many recommend Verbatim DVD's but, then I hear avoid any company selling DVD's made in Taiwan. All the Verbatim's I see in all the major stores.......are all made in Taiwan. Are these ok? Or are there different Verbatim's out there somewhere...
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29. March 2006 @ 22:42 |
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I exclusively use Verbatim media, made in Taiwan and to date have NOT experiencied any problems. I live in Australia and that's all I can source, they are made by MCC.
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30. March 2006 @ 02:14 |
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thread teleported to relevant forum.
Verbatim made in Taiwan are top notch. i've even used lots of Verbatim Made in India, with ectermely good success. however not everyone has such good success with the Indian Verbatim
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30. March 2006 @ 03:09 |
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The Verbatim DL's are made in Singapore and are also of high quality.
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30. March 2006 @ 04:47 |
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same here...i only use Verbs that are MIT, its been long since i've seen any verbs from japan. I've never had any problems with verbs at all :)
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30. March 2006 @ 05:14 |
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JCLUB- The only absolute rule is that there are no absolutes rules ! the thing is with the made in taiwan media being bad is that Most of it is ( Operative word here is MOST) But not all as it is in life there are exceptions to every rule ! Verbatim Brand & Ritek Brand media are both made in taiwan and are Excellent media - The verbatims are Rated as somewhat better than ritek But riteks are'nt that bad either ! The verbatims and Ritek & maybe Ricoh brand media to a lesser extent ! although made in taiwan are Good ! Thing about most Taiwan made media besides those just mentioned is that a quite a bit of it is made by CMC and is poor quality crap media ! Or made by who know who and is worse ! The important thing is Quality of media and quality control moreso than where the media is made ! It's just that The Japanese Made media ( TAIYO YUDEN or Maxell/hitachi media tend to exhibit both of these things Good quality and Good quality control and therefor consistancy of quality which is what we really look for in media ! Verbatim & or Ritek although taiwan made are consistantly quality media ! So if you need some quick recommendations on Media - Ist choice Taiyo Yuden 2cnd choice verbatim ( Either is excellent )3.rd Maxell/Hitachi = Japan made maxell's * & also Maxell taiwan made = Rireks also ) In addition you can often get Ritek Dvd Media in the form of OFFICEDEPOT Brand media on sale @ OFFICEDEPOT really Cheap ( BUY one get Two free ) and it's the same media as the maxell (Taiwan made) differing only cosmetically ! ) in conclusion You can't go wrong with the japanese made media or with Taiwan made media as long as the Taiwan media is verbatim -ritek & possibly Ricoh ! But if the price is the same for either get the verbatims or the Taiyo Yuden/ japan made media either way I think you'll be pleased ! Good luck & happy Burning!
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30. March 2006 @ 07:08 |
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is that Most of it is ( Operative word here is MOST)
The word should be 'many.' Unless you can back this claim up with hard evidence (we're talking numbers here not a general consensus) the grammatically correct word is 'many.'
I'm only messing with ya, man :P. I'm an English major and when I started out I always used to say 'most' and was always corrected. lol
Back on topic, MIT Verbatim is great. I've been using them for the longest time now and have not had any issues.
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30. March 2006 @ 08:03 |
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As I've quickly been learning, when it comes to Taiwan, you're not so much worried about the location as the manufacturer IN that location. Taiwan has many factories producing media, but Verbatim ONLY uses media made by Mitsubishi Chemical Corp (and maybe others of equal quality, but MCC is by far the most common Verbatim media out there). Depending on the brand, you might be getting MCC/Taiwan, or CMC Mag/Taiwan, so that's what you're really watching out for. My general rule is this: If I buy locally, I get Verbatim or Sony, period. I know that without checking the spindle, it's good media. If I buy online, it's Taiyo Yuden, Verbatim or Sony, period. That gives me enough options to always find a good price on great media.
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30. March 2006 @ 08:06 |
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Don't forget that Japanese drives are set up for Japanese MID codes no matter where the discs with those codes are made (India or Taiwan). Support for Taiwanese codes is reluctant at best and sometimes non-existent. That is a much larger factor in problems with CMC MAG and RITEK media than quality control because the same people and production lines that make Verbatim also make CMC MAG. A second factor is that any suspect production that could be sold off as "B-grade" is far more likely to reach consumers as no-name brands using Taiwanese MID codes than the MCC code that can go to duplicators who screen material.
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JCLUB
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30. March 2006 @ 09:30 |
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Hey thanks everybody! I just learned a lot.
I just bought some verbatim from office max to test and they appear to be great so far. I'll try Tai's later. Everybody mentions MCC, but, where does is say MCC? I looked everywhere for it.
I'm assuming + or - doesn't make any difference as long as I check what I'm playing it on. Does one seem to be more prevelant for use rather the other?
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30. March 2006 @ 10:13 |
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http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=download.html
Here download Nero cd/dvd speed and this will tell you what media ID it is thats in your drive (the media ID isn't actually written on the packaging or DVD's)
If your feeling brave enough do a disc quality test and post your results.
PS. Don't forget your looking for MCC*******
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30. March 2006 @ 10:35 |
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JCLUB- No as long as your player will play them ( your Burned DVD's ) and your Burner has no problem with the media your using , whether or not you use DVD-R or DVD+R media is Basically Just a matter of preferrance & price ! DVD+R media For Whatever reason is more Expensive through Online retailers -like Supermediastore.com or Meritline.com - or Rima.com ect. On the Local /retail scene DVD+R or DVD-R are Priced the Same price for either format! Other than the price issue ! the only difference in using DVD+R instead of DVD-R media is if you are going to Booktype your media to DVD-Rom you can only do that with DVD+R or DVD+RW media and only then if you burner allows it/ has that feature ! Booktyping is as close to 100% compatablity as your going to get ! If you don't booktype than DVD-R media is just a little bit more compatable then the DVD+R media on most drives ! especially older drives ! Newer DVD players will usually play anything short of a cheese pizza LOL! hope this helped you out a little & good luck & happy burning
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30. March 2006 @ 18:26 |
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If your player can read +R discs, I would go for them. +R is newer than -R AND, the biggest difference between the two is the +R can be written as Rom, the format that commercial DVDs are written as.
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JCLUB
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30. March 2006 @ 21:38 |
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You guys are great! I'm buying everyone pizza, extra large, whatever you want. I'm gonna be a pro in a 1 or 2 days at the rate you guys are educating me.
Pizza for all, send your orders!
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dannykiwi
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30. March 2006 @ 23:49 |
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Imation
Hi and Gooday from New Zealand
I have just bought some Imation DVD-Rs and to my Horror have found that they are made by the CMC-MAG outfit who's media seems to be rated as having a fifty percent fail rate(which out of two is proving true)has anyone down under had bad experiences with Imation
I should have really got Verbatim or Tayos.but these ones where the only printables Dick Smiths had??
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JoeRyan
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31. March 2006 @ 07:05 |
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What model drive are you using and what firmware does it have? An update may allow better recording if new firmware is available.
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31. March 2006 @ 11:30 |
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Imation use varying quality in disc manufacturers, you have to very careful which ones you buy/end up with
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31. March 2006 @ 11:45 |
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its been long since i've seen any verbs from japan.
you must be in the europe.. the verbs that are made in Japan are infact made by Taiyo Yuden. everywhere else they would be mcc MIT. the dual layers would be out of singapore.
i only have the knowledge of the japan verbs because of our buddy creaky.. for those of us in the states.. we either get verbs MIT.. SONY MIJ's (TY).. and some Fuji - MIJ's (also ty's) but the fujis are harder to find.
there is riteks at office depot and everything else.. but i only use verbs or ty's.. just my thought.
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31. March 2006 @ 11:56 |
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indeed, we love those sexy Japanese Verbatim Taiyo Yuden's over here in UK, except they're now rarer than the dodo. i've had to stock up on MCC004's until we ever get the Verb TY in stock anywhere again
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31. March 2006 @ 18:37 |
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Joe,The Drive is a Samsung T.S-H552U and I am suing a Windows Driver as that was in the P.C when i bought it and it seems to work ok..apart from the fact that I are getting a lot Of CRC Errors on Ripped DVDs ..CDs are no problem and the Drive burns to speed..
Any suggestions???
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dannykiwi
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1. April 2006 @ 18:27 |
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Have flashed the firmware for Burner with Samsungs Latest and funnily enough it seems to be be burning at a slower speed??but so far no CRC Errors ...Does everyone check their burns before they try them in the Player?\I use DVD Info Pro or Nero Speed Check??
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JCLUB
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1. April 2006 @ 23:53 |
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Ok, so, I guess there are no Verbs/Japan available in the states. Must be a cost cutting move on Verbatim's part, however they still control the quality and the quality seems to be good.
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2. April 2006 @ 12:13 |
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there has never been japan verbs in the states..
only in uk.. *as creaky just posted.. and according to him.. they are running low.. scarce
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2. April 2006 @ 23:15 |
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...in fact non-existant as far as i'm aware, i had to buy a few hundred 16x +R Verbatims instead (MCC004 and made in India)
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3. April 2006 @ 06:36 |
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dannykiwi--
The firmware update may be writing at a slower speed in order to improve write quality. If you are not getting the errors you saw before, then the update has made the improvement you were looking for. Many people prefer to record at a speed a step down from the maximum rated speed for the disc. That often improves recording quality, preserves the laser because it uses less power, and only takes a little longer. There are some cases, though, were the archival life based in environmental stress tests is reduced (8X discs recorded at 4X) because the faster reacting 8X dye was probably recorded at too high a level at 4X. I would think that is dependent on the dye and the drive, and I have not seen the test data. It was reported in an industry standards meeting regarding enviromental testing.
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