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Remove 1 title and not disturb menu? (Shrink user)
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L2T
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9. April 2006 @ 06:54 |
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DVD Shrink user here and love it for the simplicity. The only problem is that every once in a while I want to remove a single title in the Extras and when I reauthor instead of full backup the menu is gone. And much of the time I still want the menu.
Key word is simple. I'm old and it's hard to learn new stuff. I tried IfoEdit and it was just too complicated for me.
I remember seeing a utility that I think cost $16.95 that would do what I want (I think). Thought that I had saved the link, but now can't find it of course.
Does anyone have a simple solution?
Thanks!
L2T
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Jigen
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9. April 2006 @ 08:49 |
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Vobblanker can be used to remove or replace video at will. It's not hard to use, and it's free.
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brobear
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9. April 2006 @ 12:36 |
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Use Shrink in Full Backup and not Reauthor. Select the title you want edited out by clicking on it to highlight, then under compression settings select Still Image (not Still Pictures). That inserts the default image or one of your choice for the files you want removed. If you happen to select the title from the menu, then it will merely flash the image and return. Much as selecting a title that's been edited out. This allows you to save space to lower compression while keeping fully fucntional menus. Plus, you don't need to buy anything or use any confusing software.
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L2T
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12. April 2006 @ 03:43 |
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My apologies for being so tardy in my reply. Will try both methods today or tomorrow and report back.
Thanks!!
L2T
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Jigen
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12. April 2006 @ 10:29 |
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Brobear's suggestion will work, but I prefer running all my vids through vobblanker just because it can clean out extra junk better, as well as correct issues that a DVD might have due to copy protection.
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L2T
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12. April 2006 @ 10:40 |
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Well, I tried Brobear's suggestion first and it worked a little bit, but who wants to look at a still picture for 2 or 4 min or whatever amount of time the replaced title originally was? It would work nicely for short titles though.
Will try Voblanker tomorrow.
Thanks all!
L2T
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brobear
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12. April 2006 @ 11:05 |
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I wonder if you may have done something wrong, I never had a still image to last minutes. Did you by any chance use Still Pictures instead of Still Image for the compression setting? The default still image is only 214 MB. Also, you still have navigation so you don't have to stay on the still.
VobBlanker is cleaner, but a bit more difficult. If you really want to do good edits and don't mind spending a few dollars, check out DVDReMake at http://www.dimadsoft.com/ . They may have a trial. It's more user friendly than a lot of editing programs.
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Jigen
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12. April 2006 @ 11:27 |
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I've seen this happen with other people's discs. They replace the previews with the "this footage removed" still that comes with Shrink, and instead of a preview you get 3 minutes of the still. Blanker will reduce this stuff to a clip only KB long, and will not cause this annoyance.
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brobear
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12. April 2006 @ 11:48 |
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Fast Forward. Title Menu. Scene Selection. A person needs not watch the stills, they're only there to save space from larger files. Do it however you wish, I just included the option, as it's easy and included in the Shrink app. DVDReMake does better than VobBlanker and can be used to alter the menu to reflect the editing. VobBlanker is free, I know. Just depends on how much effort a person wants to put into the editing.
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Jigen
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12. April 2006 @ 12:25 |
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Sure, it's true you don't have to watch them. It's really not a huge problem to solve, but blanker does more than just blank. It's free, it kicks ass, I think it's a mistake not use it personally.
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brobear
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12. April 2006 @ 14:23 |
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Just as I think DVDReMake is kickass over the free offerings. It's just a matter of preference and what a person wants to put into the task. Since the copy I have was purchased as a gift, I only look at the merit of the software and not the cost. So, Shrink is easy, VobBlanker is kick ass and DVDReMake is "real kick ass". If a person is serious about a lot of editing, DVDReMake is relatively inexpensive and easy to use. Since I started using Rebuilder, I rarely feel the need to edit anymore. Also, if I want movie only with menus, that's an option and I don't need to do any editing with other software. There's steal space options and all kinds of goodies in Rebuilder for getting the desired quality, besides supporting great encoders like CCE and ProCoder 2, not to mention the free HC encoder. If a person is into movies, that's the route to take. With Quality Settings checked in Shrink, the time difference isn't that great between Shrink and RB/CCE.
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Jigen
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12. April 2006 @ 15:12 |
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Remake has a few cool features, but I prefer PGCedit because many of the same changes can be easily made without having to export the entire DVD. Saves a LOT of time and drive space. Remake is definitely easier for the novice, can't argue there.
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brobear
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12. April 2006 @ 15:37 |
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Saves a LOT of time and drive space.
Possibly space, but I can't go along with time if the editing is much at all. As for space, if a person is doing DVD backups and editing, they should invest in hard drives large enough to support the task. With the low cost of hard drives, there's no reason not too as long as a person has a few dollars for personal expenses.
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Jigen
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12. April 2006 @ 19:08 |
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Well then, you'd be wrong.
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Possibly space, but I can't go along with time if the editing is much at all.
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brobear
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12. April 2006 @ 21:35 |
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Prove it. Where are your time trials and verifiable data from reliable sources?
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Jigen
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12. April 2006 @ 23:32 |
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Dude, there is no need for time trials. Any changes you make with remake require that you export it all out to burn. This takes many minutes. With pgcedit, you just save, and the changed disc could be burned within seconds. Time saved.
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dimad
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13. April 2006 @ 00:02 |
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Dude, there is no need for time trials. Any changes you make with remake require that you export it all out to burn. This takes many minutes.
It depends on what you want. There are different options: "export dvd" and "export modified files". Yes, "Export DVD" is lengthy as whole edited disk will be exported to a new location, but when you use it you can be sure that your originals are not touched and files you get after export can be directly burned. "Export modified files" will only export affected files - which is fast. For safety reasons (to keep originals intact) it will not let you export files into folder with originals. So if you do want to modify originals you have to move/copy exported files to original folder manually! It does not take much time but ensures that you do not "damage" originals unintensionaly.
So everything depends on what you prefer most "safety" or "speed". In any case DvdReMake gives you a choice.
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brobear
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13. April 2006 @ 01:01 |
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Thank you dimad. You covered that much better than I could have.
@Jigen
When you claim someone is wrong, be prepared to support your position. Just saying "no need" doesn't support your point of view at all. If there's no need, I wouldn't have asked for support for your varying point of view. As dimad pointed out, DVDReMake can have the speed, but for safety's sake, it's best to take the slower method. Your direct approach with the originals had best be right the first time as you don't get a second chance without a backup.
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Jigen
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13. April 2006 @ 08:35 |
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Ok, I admit that I was wrong about remake needing to output the entire disc. Sorry I made a mistake about that functionality, but then again you are both wrong claiming that pgcedit just writes over your originals without any backup. It's understandable I guess since you don't use the program, but wrong.
I hardly think that this merits saying that Remake "kicks ass over the free offerings" though Borbear. I look forward to your proof, such as time trials, lab test results, and third party expert analysis supporting that claim.
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brobear
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13. April 2006 @ 09:19 |
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Like you said, "No Need". LOL Forget about it. Even though it's been explained to you by dimad himself, you still want to disagree. I wonder where you get your expertise that you can contradict true pros. Not me, but dimad.
You're wrong about PgcEdit. I have a copy of it, VobBlanker, FixVTS, and other assorted freeware on my PC and know how to use them. So little arguments like "you don't know how to use it" just doesn't cut it.
DVDReMake Pro is a forum favorite for several of the AD senior members. Maybe you consider me gullible, but I don't see a lot of the senior members (Seniors, Addicts, and Mods) suffering the same affliction. That said, if a retail app doesn't have advantages over freeware, then what's the need to purchase the retail. A retail app that inferior would fall by the way. Instead of failing, DVDReMake has improved. So, I'll stick by what I said, "DVDReMake is REAL KICKASS" compared to freeware. I'm not saying that freeware isn't good or that it shouldn't be used; just that a person can spend a few dollars and get software more tailored to doing a job easily and efficiently. DVDReMake covers the bases well for that order, it is user friendly compared to the higher priced and more complicated editing tools, yet it is powerful and highly efficient at doing a good job.
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L2T
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13. April 2006 @ 14:04 |
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I wonder if you may have done something wrong, I never had a still image to last minutes. Did you by any chance use Still Pictures instead of Still Image for the compression setting?
Brobear,
Am reasonably sure that I followed your (excellent) instructions correctly. Perhaps because I was replacing lengthy titles (previews of comming attractions) is the reason? I must say really like your suggestion for replacing short titles & will continue to use.
Thanks again!
L2T
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JaguarGod
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13. April 2006 @ 15:02 |
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I do not use DRM too much, but I think there is a limit to what you can do without enough knowledge.
For instance, can anybody just rearrange and remove titles, or do you still need to edit the VM commands manually??
Again, I do not use it too much and I have not tried to do anything complicated with it.
The place where DRM wins ease hands down is merging discs. While this is possible in PGCEdit, it will take about 5 minutes and you really have to know something about DVDs to do this.
PGCEdit can be fast if you know what you are doing. I wrote a bunch of editing guides and some of them were over 50 pages long, however actual editing time was 15 minutes or less (in some cases under 5 minutes).
I cannot give an good opinion on DRM because I have not fully explored it, but I can say that PGCEdit is definately one of the best programs out there. If you combine it with IFOEdit and FixVTS, I do not think there is anything out there that can match its power.
For simple blanking and cutting video, I think VobBlanker is the best. The reason because it is free, fast and easy.
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brobear
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13. April 2006 @ 15:40 |
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I think you struck upon one of the most common factors of the "best" software; user familiarity and preference. A lot of software has some feature(s) that makes it shine. Free and functional goes a long way. When it is good design, even better. Lets agree that the software mentioned is good and leave it at that. There will always be someone who thinks his is better. The discussion on the merits of freeware and retail aren't likely to be resolved either. Me, I'll continue to use both the freeware and retail according to what does the best job for me (user preference).
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JaguarGod
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13. April 2006 @ 17:15 |
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@brobear,
I think you summed it up perfectly!!!
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brobear
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13. April 2006 @ 19:37 |
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Thank you. It may be some of the last posting I do on the AD forums. Sometimes I play Devil's Advocate to make a point. I think you may have noticed that one of the things I've tried to get across in the past is that there's more than one way to do a lot of tasks and user familiarity and preference for software dictates a lot about the way in which the tasks are done. As long as there's not too much wasted effort and the output is good, I have nothing against the way a person accomplishes the task. Sometimes some methods are easier, but that's also for the individual to figure out at times. What's easy for one person isn't always as easy for another.
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