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zenarrrow
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7. May 2006 @ 14:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK Here is where I am at. After I uninstall the secondary channel, it doesn't say I need to restart my pc to fully activate the change and when I restart it it doesn't say new hardware installed. But when I check where they show up after I unistall it it is only showing the primary channel and not the secondary one. and after it is restarted it shows up again, am I doing it right?
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7. May 2006 @ 20:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay, lets think about this a second or 2. First you uninstall the secondary channel. If you don't reboot, then how is it going to be reinstalled? Rhetorical question, it won't. The process depends on the plug and play built into the Windows operating system. On reboot check in the Device Manager to see if the system picked up the Secondary Channel and switched to DMA as it should have. If the Secondary Channel isn't picked up on reboot, you have a problem with the OS. If the system picked up the channel but hasn't gone into DMA mode, then you probably have a problem that needs to be repaired.
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after it is restarted it shows up again, am I doing it right?
If you're saying the channel you uninstalled is back after reboot, that's how it is supposed to work. Next question is, are all the drives on the channel in DMA?

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zenarrrow
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8. May 2006 @ 16:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Every time I reboot the system after uninstalling the secondary channel it shows up in pio mode again. Should I try system restore to a date before the pio thing? Should I open the PC and plug in the cables again? Thanks
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8. May 2006 @ 16:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
zenarrrow

did ye try something as simple like select dma if available? in transfer mod.then click ok
zenarrrow
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8. May 2006 @ 17:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, should have clarified that I always select the DMA if available in the scroll box. Thing is I am not sure I am doing everything right... shouldn't it say new hardware detected when I restart my PC? It just shows up there again, still in PIO.
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8. May 2006 @ 21:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When you uninstall the Channel it shows deleted (not listed). When you reboot and check and the Channel is there again, that shows the system picked it back up. When you uninstall the channel the drives on the channel should also disappear from the Device Manager list. On reboot, the channel and drive(s) should reappear in the device manager. I've had instances where they didn't give the popup for new hardware installed. What's important is what's happening in the Device Manager. If a drive merely needs to be reset, uninstalling the channel the drive is on and rebooting is a sure method unless you have a problem. Selecting DMA or uninstalling a channel and rebooting won't put the drive in DMA if there is a problem causing the drive to be in PIO.

At this point all you've given us is enough info to know your drive wasn't in DMA and you uninstalled the channel it was on and that didn't put it back in DMA on. Have you tried the troubleshooting wizard in the Device Manager? Have any repairs or upgrades been made to the PC that could have anything to do with the problem? Was anything changed about the time this problem cropped up?

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Interesting, but I'd never recommend anyone not familiar with working in a registry to do any editing. Messing around in the registry can be dangerous. Plus, if there's a hardware problem, that isn't going to fix it. I suggest finding out what the problem is first, if trying to reset DMA fails.

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I agree completly about messing with the registry. I was just pointing out some options that few mention.

Perhaps removing it with Device Manager then running a registry cleaner before rebooting might help? RegSeeker is a good cleaner and it's free.

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That would be a better idea than trying to manually edit the registry. But, as Shitbreak's problem proved, the problem DMA setting can also come from a physical cause. Sometimes the user needs to find the problem in order to solve it. That's why I'd asked if there'd been any changes about the time the problem cropped up.

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zenarrrow
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9. May 2006 @ 18:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for being patient with me as I am working 12 hour shifts and only am able to check mail once a day.

The only thing that comes to mind, any change is trying to rip some of the newer movies that have encryption I can not break with decrypter and shrink, thus many retry's, only thing I can think of.
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9. May 2006 @ 19:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Magic DVD Ripper ( http://www.magicdvdripper.com/ ) or DVDFab Gold ( http://www.dvdidle.com/dvd-fab.htm ) will both strip all the new protection schemes, allowing you to back up your new disks.




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NavyRet is right, you need newer software for the new copyright protections being used on some releases. If free is a must, then DVDFab Decrypter from DVDIdle does pretty good. The one I use is AnyDVD from Slysoft.

Not being able to read because of copyright protection wouldn't account for your drive being locked in PIO. If you have another drive to swap out and/or the cable, it would be the simplest way to check the hardware. As I mentioned, try running the troubleshooting wizard and see if that turns up anything.

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10. May 2006 @ 17:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK the trouble shoot wizear is that right in the device manager when I check the channel it says "trouble shoot" is that what you are talking about? thanks ---zen-->
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10. May 2006 @ 18:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's it. Occasionally something shows up.

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11. May 2006 @ 19:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I don't know what happened or what I did but when I opened the device manager to click trouble shoot I checked the channel and it is now in DMA mode. It is beyond me??? but maybe something fixed it self or something. I wish I could tell you what worked, but I can't.


Thanks to everybody I really appreciate all your input, I will check out some of those background dvd programs for further decryption. ---zen-->
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11. May 2006 @ 23:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Somewhere down the line, you got it to kick back into DMA on. If I were you, I'd check it a couple of times over the next week, especially if you get a slowdown with a drive. It may have just been sticky getting back into DMA. Sometimes DMA has to be toggled off and then back on to get it to work. It can be a strange situation sometimes. Glad the setup straightened itself out for you.

For the best of the retail decryption apps it's AnyDVD. http://www.slysoft.com/ and the best freeware is the DVDFab Decrypter. http://www.dvdidle.com/free.htm/

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12. May 2006 @ 19:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Once again, thank you. ---zen-->
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12. May 2006 @ 19:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You're welcome.

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