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anthony72
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19. April 2006 @ 16:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have backed-up quite a few movies but it seems to me it is still taking too long.I just installed a new plextor 750-a and am using verbatim dvd- 16x,4.7gb discs and it took 12 minutes to burn to my computer and then 8 minutes to burn to a disc. I am wondering if this is too long? I also am using any dvd and clone dvd2. I was using x-copy platinum but had issues and was much longer.
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19. April 2006 @ 16:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wow it takes me 1.5 hours to hard drive and then about another hour or so to burn to disc so your damn lucky with your times wish i could do that! i think its cause my comp is not a good comp and i have an 40 pin ide wire instead of the 80 i dont know for sure though
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19. April 2006 @ 16:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I used to take close to that. I got this new dvd burner and changed programs and it helped alot. I have an 80 cable. I have friends that are telling me it is only taking them 5 minutes to burn 2 hr movies.
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19. April 2006 @ 17:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD as well and it takes me 36-38 minutes from start to finish. That's burning at 8X and with a 2.4 GHz with 512 RAM. You must burn at 16X I assume with a quicker CPU.
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19. April 2006 @ 21:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
With a 3.4 P4 @ 3.62GHz times vary, usually on a rip to the hard drive (just decrypting and recording the source to the HDD) of a regular sized movie of 7GB or so, I'm looking at about 10-15 minutes. A 6X burn takes about 12 minutes. I can burn faster, just don't want to press my luck. That's not including any transcoding/encoding to fit to a DVD5. Anybody recording in 5 minutes either has one great machine or a small movie.

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19. April 2006 @ 21:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
20 minutes start to finish is pretty quick. I would not be unhappy with that if I were you. I use CloneDVD and I average 25-40 minutes for full disc backup. Happy burning.

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19. April 2006 @ 22:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
20 minutes on average for a full DVD5 backup. I use AnyDVD and CloneDVD2 and burn on the fly usually at 4X (call me old-fashioned, but I love the ultra low PI-PO scores my Tys give me at this speed!)

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20. April 2006 @ 07:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
anthony72 - don't worry mate your times are fine

@Rob1026 if you have a computer from the last 5 years it should be quicker than that, what you got???

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20. April 2006 @ 12:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
SYSTEM:
microsoft windows xp
home edition
version 2002
service pack 2


dell
dell dimension dim3000
intel(r)
pentium(r) 4 cpu 2.80ghz
2.79 ghz, 512 mb of ram

pioneer dvr-110 burner

can you help me make it faster or i dont have the right stuff?

thanks

Rob
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20. April 2006 @ 12:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Rob1026 your system is a lot better than mine!!

I think you might be stuck in PIO mode ( a very slow data reading and transfer rate )

First you need to right click on the my computer icon>properties-hardware>device manager-ide ata/atpi controlers-right click on the primary ide channel-properties-advanced and tell me what your current transfer mode is.

If its in PIO mode follow this To fix goto My computer(right click)-properties-hardware-devicemanager and select IDE ATA/ATAPI controlers and open the drop down box right click on the primary IDE channel and click uninstall repeat this for the secondary IDE channel and reboot, this will reinstall all your drivers an normally fixes tha problem.

You will be asked to reboot a couple of times to install all the drivers, but if this works it will change your pc loads in ripping and burning it will be MUCH quicker

Good luck dude

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20. April 2006 @ 13:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ill try and post back thanks for the info thanks a lot!
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20. April 2006 @ 14:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
nope that did not work it all still says the same as it did before i uninstalled any other clues i hate 2.5 rip and burns
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20. April 2006 @ 16:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I thought mine was slow. My systems is about 5 years old and it usually takes me 45-60 minutes using AnyDVD & CloneDVD2 burning main movie only.


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Rob1026
Is both the Primary and Secondary IDE in DMA mode? You get that info in the Device Manager or if you have Nero from the Infotool in the Nero Toolkit. You only need to uninstall the Channel in PIO if there is one. If it's to work, a reboot and check will tell you.

That is slow for a 2.8GHz P4. I have a Dimenson 8300 Dell besides the PC I have in my sig. What software are you using? Normally rip and burn times will be similar for me on both. Encoding is where the time difference usuall comes in. You might benefit some from more RAM. I have 2x512MB in my Dell.

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21. April 2006 @ 00:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Rob1026, Do you defrag your HD regularly? I normally do mine at least once a week or after every marathon burning session. Try disabling all unecessary progs you have running in the background. I always disable anti-virus, spyware etc when encoding/burning. Try hitting control/alt/delete to bring up task manager and check your cpu usage. Do you have good protection from spyware and or malware? Could be some kind of crap hogging your system resources!

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21. April 2006 @ 00:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i have to get some more ram i guess, but i use AnyDVD and CloneDVD and and still slow i tried to turn off processes once but comp locked up dont know what to turn on and off? it bothers me really it takes so long but i guess i do what i gotta do, and ya i usually defrag once a week and i tried to put my pioneer in dma and stuff but keeps saying pio mode every time i reboot after uninstalling i dont get it and my cpu usage is between 4 and 0 percent is it my wire maybe i need an 80 ide? i could maybe have a 40 which restricts speeds anyone live in jersey?
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21. April 2006 @ 01:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you can't get out of pio mode then that is the reason for such slow burn times. Have you tried researching the problem at the Windows XP knowledge base? You should be able to run in dma mode, you need to find the reason your system won't accept it.

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21. April 2006 @ 02:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Uninstalling is only a method to put the system back into DMA if there has been a temporary problem. If there is a problem that still exists, the system will stay in PIO. Recently there was a system with a bad cable causing it to stay in PIO. Check the connections and switching out a cable is the easy way to check that. Are both the IDE channels in PIO or just one, and which one? Just a question about the installation as well. Did you install the Pioneer burner? Is the jumper on the drive in Master, Slave, or Cable Select? What position is it on the IDE cable?

Let us know how those checks go and answer the questions if you will.

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21. April 2006 @ 03:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think I see where brobear is going with this, we've been on a couple of PIO mede threads together recently.

If you have installed the burner yourself check if you have a cable select cable. You can do this by taking out the cable that is connected to the drive and seeing if one of the pins is blanked off, if so check that all the drives are set to cable select on the jumper settings.

Make sure you have unistalled the IDE cahannel in device manager first though, the do the changes, then boot up. This has happend to me when i put in my new board.

After booting up then check your settings again and post back

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anthony72
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21. April 2006 @ 11:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for all the input. Guess I should be happy with my burn time.
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21. April 2006 @ 11:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dude you shoundn't be, I'm not giving up on you yet try everything then post back please dude.

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nemo101
Where I was going was that drives should be installed properly, cables should be in good condition, and only IDE channels that have a drive in PIO need to be addressed. Normally the Secondary IDE is home to the optical drives, with HDDs on the Primary. In this case if there is only one HDD on the Primary Channel, the burner can be put in the Primary-Slave position to see if it works there in DMA (which would have to be set by uninstalling the appropriate channel(s) again). With the Secondary Channel cable disconnected from the mobo, that would indicate if the problem is with the cable or other hardware (if any) on that channel. If the Primary was in DMA and with the burner at Slave got stuck in PIO, then that would point toward the drive. It's just a matter of elimination and deduction if the problem is hardware related.

Master is at the end of the Cable, Slave is the middle connector. On systems with Cable Select, the jumper has to be on Cable Select and the position on the cable determines Master-Slave. The Master and Slave positions should be self explanatory, but they still have to match the cable position. As for the blocked out spot on cables, all mine have that, whether the Dell with the Cable Select or the other systems with the Master-Slave setup. (You are probably aware of this, but novices may not.)

I've got cables out the wazoo hangin around here. I wish I had somewhere to use them. LOL Everything I buy comes with cables. That's nice, but after a while, they start accumulating. Then if I didn't have any I'd complain. Better too many. LOL

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I think I see where brobear is going with this, we've been on a couple of PIO mede threads together recently.

If you have installed the burner yourself check if you have a cable select cable. You can do this by taking out the cable that is connected to the drive and seeing if one of the pins is blanked off, if so check that all the drives are set to cable select on the jumper settings.

Make sure you have unistalled the IDE cahannel in device manager first though, the do the changes, then boot up. This has happend to me when i put in my new board.

After booting up then check your settings again and post back


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nemo101
Where I was going was that drives should be installed properly, cables should be in good condition, and only IDE channels that have a drive in PIO need to be addressed. Normally the Secondary IDE is home to the optical drives, with HDDs on the Primary. In this case if there is only one HDD on the Primary Channel, the burner can be put in the Primary-Slave position to see if it works there in DMA (which would have to be set by uninstalling the appropriate channel(s) again). With the Secondary Channel cable disconnected from the mobo, that would indicate if the problem is with the cable or other hardware (if any) on that channel. If the Primary was in DMA and with the burner at Slave got stuck in PIO, then that would point toward the drive. It's just a matter of elimination and deduction if the problem is hardware related.

Master is at the end of the Cable, Slave is the middle connector. On systems with Cable Select, the jumper has to be on Cable Select and the position on the cable determines Master-Slave. The Master and Slave positions should be self explanatory, but they still have to match the cable position. As for the blocked out spot on cables, all mine have that, whether the Dell with the Cable Select or the other systems with the Master-Slave setup. (You are probably aware of this, but novices may not.)

I've got cables out the wazoo hangin around here. I wish I had somewhere to use them. LOL Everything I buy comes with cables. That's nice, but after a while, they start accumulating. Then if I didn't have any I'd complain. Better too many. LOL
im just not a computer kinda guy i paid best buy to install my dvd burner thanks for the help

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PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENT:
To achieve the specified writing and reading performance it is important that the DVR-110D is connected to the IDE port via an 80 way ribbon cable and that the IDE port is at least UDMA 66 or above.

got it off pioneer website; how do i know i have that stuff ^
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22. April 2006 @ 12:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hopefully the Best Buy tech knows what cable to use. The best thing to do would be to let Best Buy check it out if it's still under warranty on the drive. If not get someone with some PC background to do it for you. We were just saying the system should be checked for the DMA setting (which you listed) and the 80 way cable and connections. If you're not a computer type guy, then the suggestions we can make won't be of much help to you. Checking out the hardware and software is just one of those computer things. Just in case, the DMA settings are in the Device Manager and the ribbon cable goes from the motherboard to the drive and looks like a big ribbon. I don't advise going in a PC if you haven't been there before.

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