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DVDs freeze up on some machines
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tvnews3
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3. May 2006 @ 07:40 |
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Have really enjoyed this site, as you seem to have the most thoughtful and intelligent memebers who contribute. Hope my questions are not too elementary.
I have been burning DVDs using a couple of different software and hardware applications. Occassionally, when I send a client a DVD-R, he/she tells me that it freezes up occassionally (but continues to eventually play). My clients prefer DVD-R. Is the freeze-up more often caused by the medium, their playback machine or my authoring and/or hardward?
Also, on some of the newer CyberHome DVD recorders and players, the DVDs I am burning are not even recognized.
I am burniug on a DVD+-R/RW Writemaster2005. I also have a Pioneer DVD-R/RW. I use the MyDVD Version 3 software, simply because it is compatable with the Windows2000Pro OS I am using.
When I am recording, do I want to record at 4X? and if so, should I look to buy only 4X DVDs.
Any, tips/help would be appreciated.
Thanks
RR
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JoeRyan
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3. May 2006 @ 07:52 |
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The freeze-ups could be due to a number of problems. Early DVD players often have problems with recorded discs because they expect higher reflectivity from the first layer or don't understand the file structure of DVD+ discs. DVD-R discs follow the DVD Forum rules and often have better luck with early players unless one can change a bit setting on a DVD+ disc to alter its identity to that of a DVD-ROM disc. Bit setting allows early Panasonic recorders, for example, to play DVD+ discs; otherwise the Panasonics reject them because they don't comply with DVD Forum regulations. (The DVD+RW Alliance broke away from the DVD Forum when DVD-R was chosen for video and the DVD-RAM in a cartridge was the official choice for data.)
Cyberhome uses the + format. The inability to read other discs sounds as though the Cyberhome machines are at fault. There are very tight specifications for DVDs, but few for players. Players are generally tested to read or write discs that meet the specs, and not much more is expected from them. This remains a problem in the industry.
Good luck finding 4X media. Manufacturers have switched to 8X and to 16X and have discontinued most production of 4X. 8X media in general have better mechanical properties than 4X discs, and the dyes are often more stable than the new 16X high-speed discs. If you have a choice between 8X and 16X, pick 8X.
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tvnews3
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3. May 2006 @ 09:26 |
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Thanks for your rapid reply. After reading your reply, I called the client on the phone who has had the freeze-up problems and she told me she, too, is playing the DVDs back on a Cyberhome DVD player that also records DVD+R.
In general terms, does the slower write speed improve the possibility that most machines will play it back properly? What media do you recommend and what specs for recording.
Thanks Again
RR
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3. May 2006 @ 12:24 |
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I've got a cyberhome CH-DVR-1500 tv burner. Plus format only.+r backups have to be finalized,and +rw backups have to be Made Compatable on my cyberhome-I hope they are finalized?
Specs calls for 4x speed blank media only,but I've used sony +1x-8x/Verbatim +8x/and lately Verbatim +16x. It did have problems with the 4x media that was available at the time I purchased it: Memosux +4x/sony +4x. Teon +8x cmags performed very well on her.Just like pc DVD-RW drives,majority of my issues disappeared after using quality 8x media.I have no control over the write speed of that burner.
But,after finalizing/making compatable-stand alone players had problems recognizing the backups from that cyberhome. I had to get another standalone player which was a sony dvp-ns 325.No problem with that player until I wore it out.You gotta have a reliable stand alone player to test out your backups.
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when I send a client a DVD-R, he/she tells me that it freezes up occassionally
Definitely media issue or stand alone player is at fault.That's true for stand alone tv burners and pc burners.First rule out the media quality by using better media. After that,the stand alone factor. That's the first sign when a stand alone player may be having problems. A lens cleaner may help,but that's a last resort before drive replacement.Especially the players with a lot of wear and tear on them.Their readability will diminish.
My cyberhome recorder is not a reliable player.Most of the time it gets no disc errors when I insert backups from any of my burners.I have to insert disc,turn power off,wait a minute,and turn back on.Then it recognizes it.A cheap tv recorder,but not too shabby performance wise.
Booktyping with a capable drive on your pc is the best option.After I booktype my plus format media to dvd-rom,higher stand alone compatability rate.
For me,I've done a lot of work using that cyberhome recorder. Then making extra copies using any of my benq drives.Those extra copies are booktyped to dvd-rom.
Slower better? It all depends on the burners. Some-like my benqs-perform better with a faster speed. That's with using quality media to start with. Other drives,not so fortunant. They may require a slow burn.
Main thing: The drive that produced that backup,should play it near perfection. After that,it's the dreaded stand alone players. Thay will have a harder time reading dvd+r/-r/rw/and dl backups.They can do some screwy things. Freezing/pixellation/skipping issues means that player says there's something wrong.It may be the backup,or it may be that player. You have to rule out drives by playing them in other drives.
Now if I find someone who has issues with my backups-very rarely,it's usually their stand alone players fault.But first,I get that backup back and start testing on all my drives. Usually some of those el-cheapo stand alone players play anything you throw at them,and with excellent playback-if you get through the no disc errors.
PC burners: If you send your backups to a lot of clients,you may want to pick up a benq 1650 from newegg.com for around $40 including shipping. Those benqs will booktype,and those dreaded no disc errors should go away. The more drives that play your backups,you need to make those backups as compatable as possible.But with stand alone recorders,I'm not sure if any of them booktype.
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For any of my burners/recorder: Plus format of Verbatim/Japanese-sony-fuji-maxell/Taiyo yuden/Ritek- all at the 8x or higher speed range. These are some of the best media,with Taiyo yuden and Verbatim using Advanced metal azo dye,and the japanese maxells which are hitachi.
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