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CodyH
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_ 		18. May 2006 @ 10:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm new here so forgive me if any of my questions are obviously stupid. But i'm trying to make backup copies of some DVD's and i'm using DVD Shrink to compress them. Whenever I get to the burn process I get the, "Disc-at-Once" error. I am unfortunetly using MEMOREX 16X DVD-R's. My DVD-R/RW burner is a NEC ND-2150A. The firmware for it is I believe 2.0T I've tried burning with NERO 7 (latest version?) and it has the same error. I've tried ImgBurn but it says something about cannot start (or find) Medium? I've tried burning at 16X, 8X, 1X, and none seem to work, i always get an error. If anyone has an ideas i'm all ears, or eyes. I'd greatly appreciate it.
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@CodyH
Welcome to aD!
First check and make sure your firmware is up to date. In ImgBurn go to Tools>Drive>Check for Firmware Updates. It will show you your current version then take you to take you the firmware page for your drive.
See if there is a later version.
I think this is your drive:
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_result.php?kaj=1&isces

Also check and make sure you are in DMA mode - here's a guide:
http://my.afterdawn.com/alkohol/blog_entry.cfm/231/dmaissues

Try that and let us know how it goes!
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CodyH
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_ 		18. May 2006 @ 18:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for your reply, i'll try what you said. I am, however, a little reluctant to try the firmware updates with all the warnings they have for it. But I went ahead and download the 2.04 Firmware update for my drive but don't know how to install it? There are no instuctions or anything. I'll let you know how it goes :)
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What version do you currently have? You just need to make sure you use the right one.
The firmware may take care of the problem - this helps your drive with the read & write strategies of media esp. the newer stiff like 16x.


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CodyH
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I have firmware 2.0T I don't know how to install the 2.04 i just got. Or even if that's the right one. Here's my drive: http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1837
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Did the drive come w/ the pc? If so who made the pc? Or did you buy it separately?
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CodyH
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It game with the GATEWAY 550GR PC. I already went to their website and updated my driver from there, which updated it to 2.0T And still no luck. I'm confused on how these Firmwares are installed.
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I'm thinking 2.18 would be your version - just looking at this:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=121021
Seems 2.0T is one of the original versions from 2004.
The download in the link you list has the 2.18 - when you download it should have a readme text that will help explain the install.

Since your drive does have older firmware 16x media can give it a problem. It doesn't really know what to do with it - reason imgburn give the message no medium present. *x media may be better for your drive.

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CodyH
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This is all the read me file said:

NEC ND-2510A 2.18 RPC1 and Rip Speed Firmware

Included files

README.TXT This file

NEC2X00A.EXE ND-2xx0A series DOS Flasher

2510ORIG.BIN Original binary as supplied

2510FAST.BIN 2100@2500 and Rip Lock Patches

2510RPC1.BIN RPC1, 2100@2500 and Rip Lock Patches

2100@2500 allows the firmware to work on a 2100A drive if you have one.

Rip Lock removes the speed locks on single and dual layer DVD-ROM discs
with a VIDEO_TS directory.

RPC1 removes region state handling commands and checks.

--------------------------

An RPC1 firmware defeats the internal counters within the drive and
removes region enforcement. This only is HALF of the equation. You
need to use DVD Genie or similar software to control your player
software. http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=239

Flashing these firmwares requires some risk on your part. If you are not
comfortable with this please do not proceed. We cannot guarantee they will
work or flash correctly in any environment out of our control.

The flash process requires Real DOS, a DOS box under Windows is not suitable.

The syntax for the flasher, assuming a Secondary Master is

nec2x00a -sec -mas -flash 2510xxxx.BIN

Make a backup of your current ROM first

nec2x00a -sec -mas -out BACKUP.BIN

Vlad & Igor, The Dangerous Brothers.


Doesn't help me much :(
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LOL - sorry - let me check NEC site's - they should have the detailed instructons.
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Okay NEC's site has detailed (more involved than usual) on how to update:
http://www.de.nec.de/softwareoverview2.php/id/1333
This may or may not work since you are using a drive from a pc package. Also the media listed in this release only goes up to 8x media - no 16x.

Now if you want you can try a modified one from Liggy & Dees -205D (has new 7-2-06 next to it)
Easier to install and if your drive is not recognized will not intall/flash. No 16x media codes listed. For this one all you do is run the .exe file.

editted to add: oops here's the link for the 2nd one:
http://www.micheldeboer.nl/firmware/
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CodyH
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thanks, will try and see what happens. got to do some dishes in the meanwhile :) i'll let u kno how it goes. again, thanks for taking the time to help!
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Not a problem!
Dishes? Isn't that what paper plates are for :0)
Keep us posted! Any questions too post back.
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CodyH
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Paper plates, ha, i wish! lol. Although good idea for next time. Well the second URL was much easier, and their download and installation was a piece of cake. I made it up to FIRMWARE 2.06! But that's as far as i got. Installation for version 2.15,2.16,2.17, and 2.18 do not unzip or anything. Even with version 2.06 it does not dectect the 16X DVD-R's and I get the same "medium" error message. Maybe I should just go back and get 8X and save myself the trouble. I'd just hate to give up now, I came so far! And i've got 50 New DVD-R's just sitting here, it's a shame,lol.
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Dang! If this media id is not in the firmware then the drive will use a generic write strategy - this sometimes works depending on the media and drive. On those Memorex sounds like it's not working :)
Well check and make sure you are in DMA mode in the link above.

When you we able to burn before what media and rated speed was it? Did anything else change since you were last able to burn?
It may be best to to exchange those Memorex for some 8x Verbatim or made in Japan Fuji, Sony or Maxell's.

You can also post the last Nero failed log if you like to see if something else may be amiss. Just be sure to edit out the serial # - they usually begin w/ 1A, 1C, 5C. The log can be found at:
program files>Nero>Nero 7>Core>NeroHistory.txt
The logs are usually separated by something like this:
=====***Nero API Burning History***=====
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CodyH
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_ 		19. May 2006 @ 10:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I checked the DMA mode and everything there checks out. My friend let me borrow some IMATION 8X DVD-R dics and they worked perfectly. I have another friend who has an HP newer laptop computer and I told him to try my MEMOREX 16X DVD-R's and they worked great on his laptop. So he's willing to buy them from me for what I paid. I guess that works out if i can't get them to work on my PC. Here's the NERO log:

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 6.6.1.4
Internal Version: 6, 6, 1, 4d
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A> Version: 2.0T - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.1.4
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A >Version: 2.0T - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.1.4
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD2000JD-22HBB0 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A D: CDRom0
SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A E: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 510MB (522984kB)
Free physical memory: 132MB (135188kB)
Memory in use : 74
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

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11:28:24 AM #1 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531
ReadBuffer-Pipe got 262144KB of Memory

11:28:24 AM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124
Reader running

11:28:24 AM #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3305
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

11:28:24 AM #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 281
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2280919 (506:52.19, 4454MB)

11:28:24 AM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 293
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

11:28:24 AM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2612
Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: RITEKF - 1
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

11:28:24 AM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 459
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

11:28:24 AM #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2280920 (2280920) = #2280920/506:52.20
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2280920 blocks [_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A]
--------------------------------------------------------------

11:28:24 AM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059
Prepare recorder [_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4671324160, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2280920 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

11:28:44 AM #10 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 60
Error on LockVolume: Access is denied.

11:28:44 AM #11 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 106
SPTI - Error on DismountVolue: Access is denied.

11:28:54 AM #12 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 60
Error on LockVolume: Access is denied.

11:28:54 AM #13 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
Caching of files started

11:28:54 AM #14 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4145
Cache writing successful.

11:28:54 AM #15 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
Caching of files completed

11:28:54 AM #16 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)

11:28:54 AM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2685
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

11:28:54 AM #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2707
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

11:28:54 AM #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2863
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

11:28:54 AM #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8647
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

11:28:54 AM #21 SPTI -1046 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 289
D: CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1046)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x53 00 00 00 00 00 22 CD E0 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05

11:28:54 AM #22 CDR -1046 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1799
Illegal disc
D: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A

11:28:54 AM #23 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1799
Could not perform start of Disc-at-once

11:28:54 AM #24 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1685
Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=17005 bytes, created 8/14/2002 3:03:36 PM
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.42a, size=17184 bytes, created 10/21/2002 10:33:40 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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@CodyH
I am glad to hear the 8x Imation worked for you. Imation doesn't always use the best manufacturers so I would suggest trying some
of the other media I suggested above when you buy some. Look for 8x. .

Now onto your log :) Here's some suggestions.
Quote:
Nero Version: 6.6.1.4
Go down a version in Nero to 6.6.0.18 - this version will autoburn w/ Shrink. Uninstall the current version then run the clean and reinstall package 1 & 2 (package 2 contains Nero Vision & Recode)
Here's some links:
http://ww2.nero.com/nero6/enu/General_CleanTool.html
http://httpdl1.usw.nero.com/software/Nero6/Nero-6.6.0.18_no_yt.exe
http://httpdl1.usw.nero.com/software/Nero6/NVE-3.1.0.21_no_yt.exe
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CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-148A atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
Turn dma back on for the cd drive - your 'current transer mode' should say 'Ultra DMA Mode' with the mode #. Looks likde the current tranfer mode for this drive says 'pio mode only'. Use the guide in the link above.
Quote:
Physical memory : 510MB
Free physical memory: 132MB
Good amount of ram but 74% is in use. No multitasking and shut down any unnesscary processes.
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I think i've come to a point where the risks are grater than the rewards, the DMA thing requires unistalling drivers and such, and the guide is OK, but it doesn't tell you what to do after you uninstall them, it leaves you in a pit, and I don't have the ladder to get out! (good metaphore huh? lol) I'll get some MAXELL 8X DVD-R's and hopefully this problem will be solved. I sure did learn alot though about Drivers, Firmware, Nero, DVD Shrink, and a whole bunch of other things over the past few days! Thank you for all your help :) I appreciate you taking the time to reply, cause I believe you were the only one who did. Thank you.
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You're very welcome!
Good metaphor too :)
The dma isn't that bad - when you uninstall the driver you then just reboot and let windows do it's thing. You would do this for your primary ide - oddly your hard drive is set to the secondary ide channel. Normally it the other way around.
For the Maxell look for made in Japan - better.
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