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'1 Click DVD Copy Pro' vs 'Clone DVD2'
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20. June 2006 @ 09:56 |
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i just found this out...
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1-click has product activation and is bound to a single CPU.and 1 Click is twice the price of CloneDVD2.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=d9e169047a4b2d4aedec73c...
WORDS OF WISDOM
People are discovering that when you buy any product that is subject to "activation", you haven't really bought anything.
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20. June 2006 @ 12:58 |
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I would look here before you buy 1 click,
http://www.lgsoftwareinnovations.com/faq.asp#register
the list of conflicting software is similar to that of 321 studios X-Copy. Online activation is a complete rip off, end of story! You pay for a product, if you re-format, then you effectively have to ask permission from the makers to use it! That is no way to run a business. A bit like if you had to replace the fuse on your television, you have to return it to the shop for them to sort it for you.
I have Alcohol 120%, that is now online activation. I had a go at them on their forum, their simple answer was "If you don't like it don't get it!". If I had known when I bought it, I would end up having to activate, I would never have bought it.
CloneDvd2 & AnyDvd & the way to go here, they treat you like adults & not children.
Also, there is a section with so called "testimonials", I am always wary of software people who put up peoples' letters saying how great the product is! Personally, I think it is a load of bullcrap. I don't believe any of these testimonials, wizard pro is the same & we all know how bad that prog is!
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26. June 2006 @ 23:42 |
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Supposedly the reason it has the same problems as DVDXCopy is that they both operate using the same burning engine? But anyway I have for the average user 1Click DVD Copy is a fine program. I do despise their activation methods. And have since become somewhat of a "quality nazi" as I use DVD-Rebuilder Pro now with HCenc. I still use 1Click DVD Copy now and then for the odd copy job. But DVD-Rebuilders quality cant be beat!
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cynn
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27. June 2006 @ 00:11 |
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Suppose I have a movie that's not copyrighted. Would I get the EXACT quality copy as the original DVD if I mad a "image" in my hdd, then burn to DVDR, instead of the normal ripping with DVD decryptor? Could someone enlighten me on the difference? I just found out my friend uses the 1st method for all her dvd copying. Question is based on ovies that are not copy protected. Thanks
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27. June 2006 @ 01:10 |
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@ken41
I've been using 1clickDVD for years, thousands of back-ups. Easiest program to use!!! I have been looking at the up-grade to Pro that 1click is offering right now. Looks alot like old DVD Shrink but it's still being updated.
I would go with upgrade to 1clickDVD Pro $39 if you have basic...over Clone DVD 2...
I would rate this way.
Ease of use:
1: 1ClickDVD Express by far for a novice...
2: Clone DVD 2
3: Nero 7
4: DVD Shrink & VOB BLANKER
Best Quality
1: Nero 7
2: 1clickDVD
3: DVD Shrink & VOB BLANKER
4: Clone DVD 2
CloneDVD2 would be my last choice to buy!!!
These are the programs I use:
1ClickDVD with DVD43 if DVD43 will not decode I then use.
DVDFab to remove encryption.(FREE)This program is the greatest beats AnyDVD, has new encryptions beat before the movies are out.
Then shrink with 1clickDVD, then burn with Nero 7
@Ireland
You can upgrade to 1clickDVD Pro for the same price as buying CloneDVD2, so No cost savings... As far as registration I have installed this program 5 times in the last 2 years with just a simple e-mail to 1clickDVD... NO PROBLEMS what so ever!!! They have always replied within 1 hour...GOOD CUSTOMER SUPPORT.
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27. June 2006 @ 01:52 |
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321 had reasonable customer support, until they went belly up! Whether or not DVDFab is better than AnyDVD is extremely debateable. But, you are entitled to your opinion. Nero & is still way too buggy for most. Shrink & vobblanker is easier than CloneDvd2? Yeah, OK then. You still had to ask their permission to install it (Click dvd copy) though, in my books that really sucks.
I shouldn't have to ask to use something that I have paid for, plain & simple. You had to ONLY wait one hour? Whoop de doo, I don't have that problem with SlySoft, give me one good reason why I should have to wait?
What if the servers went down, or your E-mail was for some reason inaccessible? What do you do then?
Activation is a really bad idea & to recommend someone goes down that route, well that bites, big time.
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27. June 2006 @ 11:07 |
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@pulsar,
DVDFab is FREE...AnyDVD is not...waiting for a code to Re-install software when ever I build a new system is not a big deal, your making a mountain out of a mole hill...
The number one reason DVDFab is better then AnyDVD in my opinion is:
THEY HAVE THE NEW ENCRYPTIONS BEAT BEFORE THE MOVIE COMES OUT ...WHICH IS WHAT I NEED... I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO WAIT A WEEK AFTER RELEASE BEFORE BACKING-UP!!!
Finally Nero BUGGY...That is the first time I have heard someone call Nero Buggy...
As for "Activation is a really bad idea & to recommend someone goes down that route, well that bites, big time."
Whats your point! Activation is no big deal, unless you are trying to avoid paying for software that you use...and or trying to install on more then one computer...which trust me, you can with 1clickDVD...Activation can always be beat!!!
Remember 1clickDVD can be activated offline as well as online!!!
To say you don't own a software that has to be activated is RUBISH!!!
I find that statement to be ridiculous...LIFETIME FREE ACTIVATION IS JUST THAT...LIFETIME & FREE!!!
Ken41 concerns had to do with ease of use, and quality.
1clickDVD is by far the easiest software for a novice to use, and it's compression quality is superior to CloneDVD.
It's called 1ClickDVD for a reason...ease of use!!!
KEN UP-GRADE TO 1CLICKDVD PRO IF YOU WANT MORE CONTROL OVER WHATS REMOVED WITH BASIC!!!
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27. June 2006 @ 11:28 |
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@ken41,
What is it with 1ClickDVD basic, that you cannot do, that you are wanting to do?
Is it just menu options that you mentioned earlier that you are concerned with?
Basic allows you to save all menues under options.
If you are wanting to save only certain extras, not all. Then Pro is what you need.
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27. June 2006 @ 12:25 |
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Never heard Nero was buggy? You really need to have a good look around here before making bold statements like that! Just PM one of our top Nero gals, gwendolin & ask what she thinks of Nero & ask if it is buggy. The reply may surprise you.
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"To say you don't own a software that has to be activated is RUBISH!!!
I find that statement to be ridiculous...LIFETIME FREE ACTIVATION IS JUST THAT...LIFETIME & FREE!!!"
So, you are telling me that I own software that has to be activated online? How did you come to that conclusion? Have you been to my house & scanned my PC for software? How can lifetime free activation be so if the company goes belly up?
CloneDVD2 is not easy? Exactly what planet are you on?
There is only one person here talking rubbish....
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27. June 2006 @ 15:13 |
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@pulsar
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"So, you are telling me that I own software that has to be activated online? How did you come to that conclusion? Have you been to my house & scanned my PC for software?"
(I never said you own software that has to be activated, So try and make sense!)
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"How can lifetime free activation be so if the company goes belly up?"
(You have to be kidding to make a statement like that. Going belly-up just means no more updates. The software will still be available, This is the net!)
(As far as purchasing, once I have paid for somthing I own it. I can legally have it on my computer and that is all that matters. I can always find the software and activate it...)
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"CloneDVD2 is not easy? Exactly what planet are you on?
There is only one person here talking rubbish...."
(I never said CloneDVD2 wasn't easy, I said 1ClickDVD does a better job in compression quality , then CloneDVD2 which "Ken41" stated earlier and I agree with, so WHO"S TALKING RUBISH!!!)
As far as Nero goes, One persons opinion is simply that...
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27. June 2006 @ 16:35 |
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@peainapod
What is "DVD-Rebuilder Pro now with HCenc" never heard of?
How easy is it to use?
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27. June 2006 @ 20:38 |
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As stated in the help guide of DVD-Rebuilder Pro
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Over the course of the past couple of years DVD ripping techniques have changed dramatically. Newer "one click" programs have made backing up a DVD a fairly simple process... but there is a significant trade-off. The quality that can be attained by even the best of these programs is poor in comparison to original techniques that used Cinemacraft Encoder, TMPGEnc, or other top-notch encoders. The reason is simple. When using one of these encoders the picture is rebuilt from scratch and optimized for the resulting bitrate. One-touch transcoders usually drop DCT coefficients or change quantization info in order to lower the bitrate. This can result in pixelation and poor overall picture.
But, man, they sure are convenient.
That's where DVD Rebuilder (DVD-RB) comes in. This program was built to bridge the gap between the incredibly easy but limited "one-click" solutions and the incredibly complex but high-quality methods of DVD ripping and backup.
And HCenc is a encoder that ,if i remember, is included in the DVD-Rebuilder installation. It is responsible for encoding the video files. And as for ease of use it has a 2 modes you can use it in. 1Click mode were you click backup and it does its thing or 3 click the outcome is the same as 1 click but you have to come back and hit next at each new stage in the process.
This is DVD-Rebuilders homepage (http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/). Their are 2 versions offered. The Free version is a older version but still quite capable. and the Pro version of DVD-Rebuilder. Its updated and has increased functionality. It cannot in itself backup copy-protected films so a program such as AnyDVD or DVD43Free will be needed. The only thing I can say some people might not like about DVD-Rebuilder is the time it takes to fully encode the movie. It can take a hour or two usually but the results are phenomenal compared to either of the other programs listed in this thread.
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27. June 2006 @ 23:16 |
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"(I never said you own software that has to be activated, So try and make sense!)"
So what does this mean then?
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"To say you don't own a software that has to be activated is RUBISH!!! "
You need to get your facts right!
I really can't be bothered with this futile & childish debate, I have got way better things to do with my life than to argue the toss over a piece of software.
See ya..
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cynn
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28. June 2006 @ 10:21 |
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I was very very new to the dvd world last dec and 1Click + CloneDVD were the first two softwares I tried the trials). I am also a quality freak and look into details like clarity of words/alphabets etc on the copied dvd. I have to agree that 1Click was better in pic quality which was why a/dwan reviews did confuse me a bit cos everyone was for clone dvd. As for ease of use, as someone who didn't know ANYTHING AT ALL, I found 1Click easier so LP531 is perhaps correct on both these points (if he answering dummies like me :)
This is just an opinion of a person who was/is very very very new to all this stuff, I'm not trying to start any argument here. Maybe pulsar, you are already very good at all this, so you find CloneDVD very very easy. But yes, there are some problems with Nero (buggy)with the latest versions cos my friends (Im a roxio person) have trouble but Nero 6 is fine. Okay guys, sorry if I offended any of you. Just wanted pulsar to see Lp531's point of view and vice versa.I'll end here. Bye.
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28. June 2006 @ 13:04 |
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Thanks for the post cynn, I am not trying to piss people off, however I hate when people make a blanket untrue statements attacking software and the people who use and prefer it.
@cynn
The reason for the bad reviews or the non-recommend for 1ClickDVD around A.D. is that 1clickDVD is not sold here(or in other words they do-not pay to advertise here), CloneDVD is!(sold & pays to advertise here)
I am sure that statement is going to ruffle some feathers, but it does not make it any less true!
Regarding Nero: I was talking about Nero7 specifically, but to say flatly that Nero is a buggy program is inacurate. Nero is not perfect just like any software, However it is undoubtably the number1 burning software in use.
ALL SOFTWARE HAS BUGS,THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT BUGGY!!!
@pulsar
So what does this mean then?
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"To say you don't own a software that has to be activated is RUBISH!!! "
(I am saying the act of activating a software does not relinquish your right of ownership of that software.
Would I prefer to not have to activate, Sure.
Will activation ever prevent someone with skills from installing on their computer and using, NO.
If I legally buy software, I own it, and can have it legally installed on my computer!!!)
P.S.Look at what words are highlighted or linked and what are not.
CloneDVD
AnyDVD
Nero
1clickDVD
I rest my case!
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28. June 2006 @ 22:08 |
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"The reason for the bad reviews or the non-recommend for 1ClickDVD around A.D. is that 1clickDVD is not sold here(or in other words they do-not pay to advertise here), CloneDVD is!(sold & pays to advertise here)"
I HAVE NEVER READ SO MUCH TRASH IN MY LIFE, ABSOLUTE, COMPLETE & UTTER NONSENSE.
I cannot sit here while someone spouts so much drivel. Like I said, have you PMd Gwendolin yet about Nero, no?, I didn't think so. The latest version of Nero 7 is buggy, end of story. Take a look round the Nero part of this forum.
When SlySoft brings out new versions, it is rare for there to be bugs. Nero does it all the time. I have had to revert back to Nero 6.0.18 as Nero 7 is incapable of burning music without tracks skipping. Nero 6 did it perfectly, first time. I have wasted SO many cd blanks on Nero 7
If you don't believe me, then that is your prerogative, I am getting fed up of arguing with you, you obviously haven't been here long to know much about the Nero part of our forum. unless you take a look, talk to some of the other members here, you are simply not qualified to make such rash & stupid statements.
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29. June 2006 @ 05:24 |
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29. June 2006 @ 16:02 |
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P.S.Look at what words are highlighted or linked and what are not.
CloneDVD
AnyDVD
Nero
1clickDVD
I rest my case!
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29. June 2006 @ 19:13 |
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Ken41 here. Thanks LP531 for your interest in my original post. Yes, my inquiry was about how to backup just certain extras off a given disc. I already had '1 Click DVD Copy' and 'AnyDVD'. Now I've added the FREE program' DVD Shrink' to my repertoire, to do that specific thing. (At least, I will have added it when my own computer, currently malfunctional, works again.) And I customised for myself a screen to insert into 'DVD Shrink'-made discs saying that certain items from the original disc have been removed and that, to access the disc menu, the user may have to press the appropriate button on her remote.
- Ken41
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30. June 2006 @ 00:25 |
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How are the highlighted links correlated to quality? Again, you refuse to answer the Nero buggy problem, just relying on repetition in a vain attempt to make your point...
Shrink is a very good prog, but can have problems with newer titles.
Unfortunately, Lp531 is a misguided & uninformed soul who will not last last long with his attitude on this forum. He/she in incapable of reasoned arguement & just resorts to shouting & to get his/her point. 1 Clickdvd copy is probably an extremely good piece of software, unfortunately you have to consider the online activation issue (LP531, this will not go away, no matter the voracity of your protestations).
Whether LP531 likes it or not, Nero7 is a buggy programme, again he/she refuses to Pm Gwendolin & ask, or even peruse the Nero forum to see what I mean. So when you are up against that sort of ignorance, you have to question his/her knowledge about burning dvds & their prevelant issues. You have inadvertantly got caught in a heated discussion, I can only hope that you can see through both sides & realise who is correct.
To make a final (I hope) point, CloneDvd2 & AnyDVD are a great & cheap combination, once bought you can activate at your leisure. There are many, many members here who like these bits of software (I have been on this forum for 3 & a half years, so I am qualified to make this statement), & it will come highly recommended by most here. I have seen other posts by Lp531 & he is very voiciferous against SlySoft products.
@Ken41, I hope that you make a wise choice in the software that you use, also I can only hope that you can ignore the childish bickering by both LP531 & myself & continue to visit this forum, the knowledge base here is truly amazing.
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30. June 2006 @ 00:51 |
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@pulsar
Get your facts straight I've looked at the Nero posts, nothing that you don't see in every software categories posts regarding problems.
You can see the same type posts under slysoft that does not make slysoft buggy.
Nero makes excellent program, just as slysoft does.
However I would not catogorize any of these softwares as buggy.
The only one here who has made personal attacks and refused to discuse the issue in an intelligent manner is you.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF GROWING-UP TO DO.
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30. June 2006 @ 00:55 |
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30. June 2006 @ 01:31 |
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@pazzini & ebega
Excellent side by side comparisions, shows true diffrences in softwares.
Did I see $500.00 as price on rebuilder-pro?
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30. June 2006 @ 01:38 |
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Hi LP531
For DVD-Rebuilder pro you have to make a donation of $30
Procoder2 is what costs $500 Procoder2 cost me £400 and is the only Encoder I use now.
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30. June 2006 @ 02:04 |
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Hi Pazzani,
Thanks for the correction, I couldn't find the post with price when going back through.
Thought you were right on in ranking comparisions, Have you guys thought of making a chart showing rankings, time, price, ease of use...etc?
Would love to see a additional 1click comparisions...
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