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19. June 2006 @ 09:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
He didn't deserve to be flamed in that thread,fair enough he was a kn*b head and said something really offensive to you and yes, he did get banned for it, he came back & got banned again..and again...and again....and again, for reasons I don't know.

But when he came back under his newest nick it was kinda out of order to flame the guy, even if the guide was only for print screening and hosting it somewhere, a guide's a guide and I can bet you it would've helped someone, I'm not saying you have to leave it in the past & continue, you can be mad at him if you want, he probably deserves it.

This guy however, he's just a really bored retard who want's to have something cool to show his friend's so he decides to see what happens when he creates a random dumba$$ thread:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/354600

Kinda funny when ya think of it, but goes to show you just how sad some people can be, theres alot going on here at aD, alot of its good stuff and thats what brings me here day after day, unfortunately there are the pr*cks you get occasionally but you get them everywhere, if they really are muppets then they obviously won't get far, people should realize that some people are like this, I really cant see this causing aD to float down the drain....its just a fact of life really, there are some people who you won't get along with and can piss you off at times but if you keep reporting them and they are dealt with by the forum moderators, everything should be cool and we will continue to browse happy!

Thats what I think about the matter, thought I'd add my two cent's, some people take little thing's over the Internet way too seriously sometime's,not everything's picture perfect, reporting what you don't like usually does the trick.

Yours Truly; Rav
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19. June 2006 @ 09:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I must admit the chap was a complete & utter jackass. I do recall him threatening to use his black belt karate on people.
I do understand why many would not want him back again. Whether I am one of those members is debateable.

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19. June 2006 @ 09:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey,

Guys im sorry for starting this thread and the last thing i want is to get banned. I was a lil pissed of that day and just thought making a thread about something else may help me. And i do see that was stupid and in a way what i was trying to campaign about.

Also GrandpaBW im sorry if the threads you read were pointless and recently im trying to be a little more techinchal. But i have taken your Criticism. But sometimes i help.
Thanks Lecsiy
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19. June 2006 @ 09:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
rav, i understand what you are saying, and i wasnt one of the guys who flamed him in that thread. however, if oyu were in my situation, wouldnt you feel differently?

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19. June 2006 @ 10:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If he said to me what he said to you I would feel exactly how you do, you have every right to be mad at him, for aslong as you want DVDBack.





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19. June 2006 @ 11:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I happened upon a site called Barryboys.co.uk, I enjoyed the mickey taking of really badly modified cars. I inadvertantly made an incorrect post, the next thing I knew was, I was being accused of being someone else! Then the flaming began. Despite the fact I apologised, they still went for me. I asked why, they said that my IP address was "similar" to the others' IP address.
I couldn't believe the abuse I got, they would not believe who I was. I e-mailed their Admin about it, up until now I have not had a reply!
I am quite bemused as to the reactions I received. I am not too upset about it, my skin is thicker than that, I didn't lower myself to their level & refrained from any retorts.
Lesson I learned was if you think this site is bad for flaming, just be grateful that it isn't the site I went to this morning!

Gif by Phantom69


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19. June 2006 @ 11:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Pulsar is 100% correct. This sites mods and admins usually go easy on those that bend the rules slightly. I belong to several FTA sites. One has a BUY/SELL section where a member listed a receiver like I have for $200 used. I paid $159. for mine new and the site sponser had an ad directly below the selling post for $179. I posted to the member that his price might be a little high for a used receiver. Another guy posted after me and stated the same thing. A senior member jumped us both and told us to mind our business and negative repped us both. I e-mailed the admins to look at the posts but never got a reply. I also asked them to close my account and again never got a reply or account closed. There was no ill intent in my post except to advise the guy selling that his price was above the site sponser's price listed right below his post. So keep this in mind if you think AD mods or admins get out of hand. Most senior and above members try to keep their heads on straight when replying to threads that MAYBE shouldn't have been posted in the first place. We don't jump in to flame someone just for fun, there usually is a reason.

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19. June 2006 @ 13:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I am glad to see some people pointing out that other forums are far more tough than AfterDawn. In a scale of things, aD mods are very tolerable to a lot other sites simply wouldn't allow. I occasionally search through other sites for comments made on AfterDawn and more often the comments are positive - I've seen many threads on other sites along with dRD where a user being flamed said something along the lines of "this is why i prefer afterdawn".

Now I do find negative things about aD too, sometimes true, where people were mistreated here and left. However, most of what I find is 100% nonsense. I've seen people say stupid sh** like "On AfterDawn, every secpond thread has a link to download something pirated" - Why people do this on publ;ic fporums I don't know because I uisually end up stomping out their claims in front of their buddies and watch them then pretend like nothing happened and see some of their posts edited..... what a coincidence.

The point dRD made is a very good point, one to remember. Everyone here has a different list of big users, or regular users or old skoolers, whatever you want to call them. They vary based on when you were most active on the forum. I agree with dRD on that and I also see the "good ole times" as being around 2002 - but thats just cause they were the good ole times to me. It's like we go through cycles of members - people post here and get fed up or tired of it, that's just normal. The fact that they disappear doesn't mean the forum sucks, it meanjs something else in their lives have taken up the time that they used to spend here.

In terms of rule breaking, probably the most offending forums now are the console forums. They are by far the most likely to see some tough actions and restrictions soon, but I can fully explain why they have become that way. When aD added those forums, there were (and still are) loads of other console sites. The only problem was, those sites had a reputation for being home to complete assholes (among good members of course, but they werent being cracked down on) and suddenly, a flood of users fed up with those sites came to afterdawn.

For a long time the forums stayed clean and gathered their own regulars but now we're seeing some users bringing the bad attitudes to afterdawn (even tho many of the sites that existed then have either closed, cleaned up or changed completely) and thats why we get some many complaints about users on the console forums. Another reason we gather undesirables is google, if u search for game backup info, AfterDawn threads are popular in the results, so we get a lot of kiddies coming to the forum anmd acting like fools.

But ye, it's being worked on. I think the best thiong to do is ignore the idiots and just have a good time cause thats what you're supposed to do on these forums.
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19. June 2006 @ 13:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Now I agree with every word said here so far. As a regular prowler of the xbox forums I can see that there needs to be a bit of stomping done because things are getting out of hand, especially in the psp forums but it's spreading out into the general threads too. Maybe it's because some of the sites full of nasty people have closed, or maybe it's just because the generation of spoon fed spoiled little brats have got to the age of owning their own computers, I really don't know.
As to people who come from other sites and cause trouble well.. I know some real horrors in the console modding field. More like private members clubs than tech forums. Watch you don't ask the wrong thing or the ban button gets hit...and then the person gets flamed by all after they have no chance of comeback.So maybe somebody comes here after getting treated like that and is already on the defensive, and without really meaning it starts a slagging match with somebody who was only asking them to please explain more clearly, or to use (or at least attempt to) use real English. That's where a lot of it seems to come from..some days it's like walking on broken glass in the console jungle. Then I go and do some work instead and leave it until it all cools down again.
I'll admit I will use a bit of sarcasm sometimes, but nobody ever spoonfed me anything and I don't see why I should explain the blatantly obvious to somebody too lazy to even try looking for the answer.
Yes, the same questions have been answered 1000's of times before. But if it's a genuine question from somebody polite and intelligent enough to appreciate a clear and thoughtful answer then I will move mountains to try and help them. As will all the other genuine members of AD.. Of that I have no doubt.
I just hate txt spk..it really gets my back up..
just my 50 cents.. lol

@lecsiy.. Thanks for starting one of the best threads this week..cheers


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19. June 2006 @ 14:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just had a look on the stats on the site that flamed me, they have 10690 members, but it is more like a private members club.
A new member introduced themselves, she was a young lady, I was astounded at the comments made by some of the members. All they were saying was "show us your t*ts". Even when a mod came along (a friend of the new arrival), another girl, all she said was "just ignore them"! The complete disrespect shown to newbies is a disgrace, it was embarrassing.
I can only imagine what they would say to Jan is she posted the piccy of her in her profile page on that site. It was a relief that I discovered that most of the members there are jackasses. if that is how they treat people, then I do not wish to be a member.
Once again Afterdawn shines above the rest!

Gif by Phantom69


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19. June 2006 @ 17:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Yes, the same questions have been answered 1000's of times before. But if it's a genuine question from somebody polite and intelligent enough to appreciate a clear and thoughtful answer then I will move mountains to try and help them. As will all the other genuine members of AD.. Of that I have no doubt.
well said!

people just need to step back and realize this is the internet, not real life. Which is more silly, for someone to say they will use karate on you, or for you to take it seriously and get offended? i mean come on people lets take a little tighter grip on reality. the ones that try to play uber |33t h4x0r guy usually have no clue and are making poor use of their 1 hour limit on mommy's compaq, again nothing to take serious. the guys to fear are the ones that dont say a word. we've had some strange things going on the past few years, all of which could have been avoided if people would wake up and realize that if they dont like it here, move along to somewhere you feel more comfy. no one is making you stay here, just as no one is making you comment on a thread that you might think is pointless. We all play certain roles here, dRD is the head cheese, the writers keep you from being bored to death at work, us mods are the ones you decide whats pointless as well as who breaks the rules and needs removed. the members role is to be helpful and informative, polite and respectful, and most importantly is to be human for christs sake. so someone screws up, big deal, we're all entitled to it once in a while. say you got malaria and started acting all crazy and signed in to aD, wouldn't you want the chance to redeem yourself after you begged Neph for whip cream photos in a crazed malaria enduced stupor? See, we'd give you that second chance, cause we're good people. beside we all got those pics last year at the xmas party ;)





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19. June 2006 @ 17:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
where is my copy as i never got 1.
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19. June 2006 @ 17:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Which is more silly, for someone to say they will use karate on you, or for you to take it seriously and get offended?
hmmm..he did alot worse than that, i wouldnt care if some 13 yr old threatened me with karate from 1000 miles away over the internet like he did, he insulted me and my loved ones, thats crossing the line, internet or not.

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19. June 2006 @ 18:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I'm not sure if this is what it use to be but, help from aD forums sure has gotten me out of alot of jams in the past.

later on
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19. June 2006 @ 18:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
& still will in the future. teach & learn
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19. June 2006 @ 22:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
...and 'tweak & burn'



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20. June 2006 @ 10:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
...Bleach & Churn :S

@Thoose "Show me your t*t's" comment's, thats sick, people like that are pure scum, thank god AfterDawn is free of them (mostly), I don't ever wanna see this place become a site infested by abusive gobby kn*b's like the one's you had to put up with Pulsar, again thank god the site's community is friendly, I get along with most of the guy's just great and hope it stays that way.

There are some a$$holes but thats the reason there are forum moderator's....

Yours Truly; Rav
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The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month. - Fyodor Dostoevsky
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20. June 2006 @ 13:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
because we like banning the buggers
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20. June 2006 @ 13:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ddp, you are starting to sound scarily like creaky!!

pulsar - I don't think they needed to be so literal.. blame it on the chavscum, lol

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20. June 2006 @ 13:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
here's the proof that ddp likes to ban,

he pm's the person this pix b-4 he bans him or her..
he loves his job...

ddp
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20. June 2006 @ 14:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yep, works by me!!
mcalister
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20. June 2006 @ 14:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
glad to see the checks and balancing is in order !

later on
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20. June 2006 @ 15:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just had a quick look at the site that was flaming me, what a bunch of wallies, some chap made this comment;

"Just read parts of this thread and who is this idiot.
we dont care if you dont like what we do.
Would you go into the ghetto and tell all the homies that you hate them and there music etc.

(just to say i dont hate the homies)"

The thing is, is that, I never mentioned that I didn't like what they said, I was very polite (I know, unusual for me!) in all my replies. It makes me laugh when there are people out there who just like to jump on the bandwagon, without even taken real note of what has been said! It just shows the mentality of some of the nuggets out there. I don't think this site (AD) has gone as bad as some suggest. If you think it is bad, then have a look around.

The irony of it, is that I don't even live in the ghetto, or have any homies!

I haven't replied to any of the posts, no point!

Gif by Phantom69


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janrocks
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20. June 2006 @ 15:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You'll have to pm me the addy.. I'll go and tear them off a strip lol
I wonder if it's one of the ones I was talking about?
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20. June 2006 @ 15:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm, not sure what an addy is!

Here is the site though;

http://www.barryboys.co.uk/

Have a browse around the piccies, they are quite funny! Some of the mods people do to there cars are ridiculous! Just a shame that the site is full of complete & utter plonkers!

Gif by Phantom69


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